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BORDER AGENTS RESENT POLITICIAN'S ZEAL FOR AMNESTY

Posted on 09/26/2002 11:22:30 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot

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To: RLK
Yeah, and a President with a 3-digit IQ for Pete's sake.
21 posted on 09/27/2002 2:19:17 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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22 posted on 09/27/2002 2:31:05 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: MJY1288
Eeeeeeek!! Look out, there's a rat behind you. I swear, you people are all one note flutes.
23 posted on 09/27/2002 3:01:08 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: MJY1288
The RATS are divided big time and the left needs to divide us. This is nothing but an attempt to drive a wedge, pure and simple

There is a very real concern among people (most surveys put support for controlling our borders and stopping illegals at numbers above 80%) for this issue. The Republican Party leadership seems to support those who want the cheap labor and larger markets that illegals provide.

Maybe the parties need to realign since the Republican Party is not concerned about these and other "way of life" issues. Maybe it finally is time to vote third party. The wedge is being driven by those who arrogantly continue to treat US borders as an inconvenient joke.

24 posted on 09/27/2002 3:20:46 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
"Maybe it's finally time to vote third party."

I'd like to see someone like Tom Tancredo successully challenge Bush in the Republican primary.

Failing that, third party would be the only way left to go.

25 posted on 09/27/2002 3:55:17 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
If the Republicans don't field candidates that all take the position that Tom Tancredo is advancing on illegal immigration, they will lose elections for House and Senate seats and the Presidency.

I disagree with many Republicans on their policies on illegal immigrants, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let it keep me from helping Republicans control both houses and the Whitehouse.

There's more than one note to this song.

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Flyer

26 posted on 09/27/2002 4:03:26 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: Flyer
All cliches aside for the moment. What's the difference between RINOs and Democrats being in control of the House, Senate and Presidency?

Compare the present Republican Party platform to those of the last 120 years and tell me the changes are for the better.

Take a look at the reasons that Hispanics/Latinos claim to be supporting Bush.

Latinos Give High Marks To George W. Bush; Agree With Him On The Issues President Job Approval Rate Reaches 68%!

- 84% of Latinos approve of the Presidents plan to offer a $3,000 tax credit to uninsured workers.

- 73% of Latinos agree with the President that a prescription drug benefits plan should focus on assistance to low-income seniors.

- 83% of Latinos approve of President Bush's plan to normalize the status of 3.5 million immigrants through temporary workers program.

Do any of Bush's plans sound conservative?

Do any of these plans sound like they'll decrease the size of the federal government and reduce our taxes?

Doesn't all of this sound liberal enough to have come from the Democrat Party platform?

Is this the kind of Republican Party you want?

You'll actually vote for candidates that want to enact legislation like this, because they call themselves Republicans???

27 posted on 09/27/2002 4:44:26 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
Is this the kind of Republican Party you want?

It's not a perfect Party to represent me, but no Party is. At this time thre are no viable 3rd party candidates for the Presidency, and probably very few for the U.S. House and Senate.

It is a much smaller task for us to change the Republican party than to bring a 3rd party to prominence.

28 posted on 09/27/2002 4:59:09 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: Bikers4Bush; NorseWood; c-b 1; cynicom; WhiteGuy; realpatriot71; Badray; twas; MissAmericanPie; ...
ping
29 posted on 09/27/2002 5:00:00 AM PDT by madfly
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To: RLK
Well that pretty much excludes everyone in the US Congress!
30 posted on 09/27/2002 5:06:04 AM PDT by Recon by Fire
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To: Flyer
"It is a much smaller task for us to change the Republican party..."

Yeah, that's exactly what the RINOs are doing. They're changing the Republican Party.

They're not going to change back, if folks like you continue to offer them unconditional support.

'It's my Republican Party right or wrong' is the truly 'Johnny One-Note' refrain.

What do you think of those 3 new planks that George Bush suckered the rest of the party into adopting in order to pander to the Latino vote?

That's a brilliant political strategy. How would you like him re-elected with a Republican controlled Congress, so he can fulfill those liberal/socialist campaign promises to the Latinos that won't vote for him anyway?

We'd be headed towards a bigger, socialist federal government, higher taxes and open borders, but the socialists call themselves Republicans!

Whoopee, that makes it all better!

31 posted on 09/27/2002 6:14:39 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Texasforever
You make the matter of our border laws sound like a game.
32 posted on 09/27/2002 6:27:06 AM PDT by gabby hayes
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To: 4Freedom
If the cvhoice is half a loaf or nothing, I'll take half the loaf now and work towards the rest.

Like any mature adult would.
33 posted on 09/27/2002 6:27:18 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
Would you like to list the conservative platform planks that are still left that would comprise the conservative "half a loaf"?

34 posted on 09/27/2002 6:38:08 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: grania
Everytime a pandering politician says "amnesty" many illegals head on over so they can get in on it.
35 posted on 09/27/2002 6:44:57 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: 4Freedom
The tax cuts and the foreign policy and national security are big ones for me. So is the very strong pro-life position and the pro-Second Amendment stance that the Republicans have.
36 posted on 09/27/2002 6:54:26 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch; Flyer
C'mon, tell us what the Republican Party will still have to offer conservatives in 2004?

Once Bush amnesties all of these fiscally and socially liberal, illegal aliens and they have the vote, how will a conservative politician get elected?

Do you two see that illegal immigration is the linch-pin of all other conservative issues?
37 posted on 09/27/2002 6:56:29 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom; Flyer; Texasforever; Poohbah; Howlin; MJY1288; Mudboy Slim
How do I see it?

If the experiences that my brother related to me are ANY indication, then people (including immigrants and American businesses) have been screwed over by badly written or misapplied immigration laws and there is an OBLIGATION for the GOVERNMENT to make it right.

The the most a farmer can offer to harvest his crop is $6 an hour, and the only people willing to do it at that wage are Mexican day laborers, why are there people who insist on screwing this farmer over by insisting on a restrictive immigration policy, so that the only ones who come over do so illegally because they have to SNEAK over the border? then, when the farmer is caught, he faces fines and jail, because the LEGAL folks wanted more pay than the farmer could afford?

The farmer in the hypothetical I mentioned uis just as badly screwed over as a farmer who accidentally runs over an endangered rat while plowing a field.

The only differences in these two cases are the laws used to screw those farmers over. In the hypothetical I mentioned, it's our immigration laws that screwed the farmer over. If the other case, it is the Endangered Species Act that screwed the farmer over. If anything, the immigration laws are worse because they screw over the willing employees (the Mexican day laborers), who could probably do the same job with less problems if there was enough common sense in Washington to enact a sensible guest worker program that could screen out the criminals and drug users among them.

"Rule of law" should not be a shield for screwing people you don't like over. Laws that are badly written or misapplied, and which ARE screwing people over MUST be re-written and reformed, whether it involves immigration policy or the Endangered Species Act.
38 posted on 09/27/2002 7:16:16 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch; George W. Bush; M. Thatcher; Reagan Man; CheneyChick
"Laws that are badly written or misapplied, and which ARE screwing people over MUST be re-written and reformed, whether it involves immigration policy or the Endangered Species Act."

The Arbitrary Application of Justice is one of the most-compelling arguments for decreasing the actual number of laws on the books dramatically...and the Left makes it for us on a daily basis. That's also why Terry McAuliffe and Slick Willie must be brought to Justice...sooner rather than later, more rather than less!!

FReegards...MUD

39 posted on 09/27/2002 7:22:12 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: hchutch
Tax cuts? What tax cuts?

How are the Republicans going to cut taxes and give the uninsured $3,000 tax rebates, make it possible for 3.5 million illegal aliens plus to qualify for welfare and give senior citizens free medication?

Oh, I get it. You're for the tax cut for the uninsured.

"Foreign policy"? Like doubling international assistance? Hmmm, maybe there's a way to view that as a tax cut? I guess, if you figure Bush could have quadrupled international assistance.

Sounds like the Democrats, again. We only had to raise your taxes half as much, so this tax increase is really a cut.

"Pro-life position"? Yeah, the amnestied, socially liberal, illegal aliens are going to allow you to reverse Roe vs Wade.

"Pro-2nd Amendment stance"? Ditto for your chances of holding on to your guns once those socially liberal, illegal aliens are all amnestied.

That sure doesn't sound like half to me. That's only about 10% of the loaf of the last 120 years of the Republican Party's platform that's left there for conservatives pardner.

That's half, of a half, of a half.

40 posted on 09/27/2002 7:22:29 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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