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Augusta National Slammed as "Secret Golf Club”
NewsMax ^ | 9/27/02 | Limbacher

Posted on 09/27/2002 11:55:43 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: kemathen7
2002-07-18
In defense of Hootie Johnson and Augusta

Let me preface this article, no nevermind I am not prefacing it. I don't like golf. I don't like to play it. I don't like to watch it. I do like to watch Mickelson choke and Duval crumble, but if it isn't a major on Sunday, I don't even slow down the remote. BUT....

I do agree with Hootie Johnson's blasting of Martha Burk, chairman of the National Council of Women's Organizations, in response to her letter to allow women into Augusta National. "There may well come a day when women will be invited to join our membership, but that timetable will be ours and not at the point of a bayonet." Good for Johnson. (I just can't bring myself to call anyone "Hootie" anymore).

Frankly I am all for equality, but equality just to prove a point is ludicrous. Martha Burk is simply trying to stir up trouble for trouble's sake and I, for one, am sick of it. It brings to mind the time I tried to join the League of Women Voters and got denied. Hell I thought there would
be more chicks there than in the general populace, but alas I was shunned. Do you see how ridiculous "equality" and "political correctness" are becoming? Let's just destroy everything. Every club. Every fraternal organization. Every Friday night poker game between buddies. Every Canasta game between women. "Going to get a facial with the girls, honey? Well great, Earl and I are coming too."

Why can't people understand that there has to be some separation? Is it that tough? You lose the "individuality" of the group or club when you let anyone in. If they start letting women in Augusta National, then the first thing I am going to do is send a letter to Hootie and get Reverend Jesse Jackson on my side to go down there and campaign for admission for the poor. Sure the dues cost twice as much as my yearly salary, but how dare you exclude me? I am a person. I belong in "Club People" like everyone else.

What I would love is if the backlash from this led to more men pulling a "Juwanna Man" and complaining about not being able to be in the WNBA or on the Women's Golf Tour. I guarantee there is a guy who works at Hardees who could play in the WNBA for 5 times his minimum wage job. And there is a club pro making $40,000 per year who would love the big paychecks/endorsement opportunities of the women's pro golf tour. People are not the same, no matter how much anyone would like to believe it. We are all different. And then we are drawn together by common characteristics. That is not racism or sexism, that is fact(ism). But every time you turn around, people want to steal our freedom to associate with the people we choose to. And in my book, that is every bit as bad as racism or sexism.

Stand-Up Sports

81 posted on 09/27/2002 1:53:29 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bill Gates, allegedly yearned to get an invitation for years before he recently got one.
Did he get one? I thought he still had to play with us unwashed masses.
82 posted on 09/27/2002 1:54:41 PM PDT by lelio
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To: lelio
Center for Advancement of Public Policy

Who we are

CAPP was founded by Martha Burk and Ralph Estes in 1991

Dr. Martha Burk
is president of the Center and publisher of the Washington Feminist Faxnet, is a political psychologist long active in policy analysis and research on women's equity. She has served as a consultant to national organizations and government agencies, and as a national board member for the National Organization for Women, the National Woman's Party, the National Committee on Pay Equity, and Wider Opportunities for Women.

Dr. Ralph Estes
is a fellow with the Center, a CPA, and accounting professor emeritus at the American University. He directs the Stakeholder Alliance, a project of the Center. A national authority on the role of corporations in society, he has published extensively; his books include Tyranny of the Bottom Line, Who Pays? Who Profits? The Truth About the American Tax System, and Corporate Social Accounting. He is a past president of Accountants for the Public Interest and of the Texas Civil Liberties Union.
83 posted on 09/27/2002 1:57:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: lelio

Dr. Martha Burk is a political psychologist and women's equity expert who is co-founder and President of the Center for Advancement of Public Policy, a research and policy analysis organization in Washington, D.C.

84 posted on 09/27/2002 1:59:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: lelio
Martha Burk, head of the Center for Advancement of Public Policy recently wrote a thoughtful article explaining the white male flight to the radical right, religious supremacists politics of the Republican party in the last election. This is the heart of it:

"The mostly male face of the Republican landslide is no surprise. The male/Republican female/Democratic trend has been evident since 1980, paralleling increasing Republican efforts to deprive women of abortion rights and consign them to second-class economic citizenship.

"Beside women and men sometimes have opposite priorities, and there was a smidgen of testosterone in this election. Many guys who don't actually own a gun still want to be able to buy one easily - just in case they're called on to clean up Dodge. Women tend to worry about getting raped at gunpoint. Basic difference.

"Does this mean we are head for a new politics of gender - a 'men's party' and a 'woman's party?' Hardly.

"The white male roar was in response to something much more basic: fear of the future. For the first time since World War II men are facing long-term systemic job insecurity. When people are fearful, theylook for scapegoats and saviors. Republicans produced scapegoats - welfare (blacks), affirmative action (women), and immigrants (all the rest) - while pointing to themselves as saviors. Desperate white guys went for it.

-- Martha Burk, president, Center for Advancement of Public Policy.
85 posted on 09/27/2002 2:03:18 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Fedupwithit
This broad needs a big tall glass of shut the f^&k up

Man, I love that pic :)

86 posted on 09/27/2002 2:20:34 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: MassMinuteman
Ping for later.
87 posted on 09/27/2002 2:22:01 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Orual
Now you are nitpicking. I previously stated that women could play the course, but I have made it crystal clear that when I say that the membership don't want women at Augusta, I mean as members, in the locker rooms and such.

Groan!!!

Now I never said anything about prohibiting women from playing.

You made the statement that there was a RULE stating that women could not be members. I pointed out that there was no such rule. The club is by invitation only, and no women have made it through the mambership process.

88 posted on 09/27/2002 2:25:25 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Psycho_Bunny
This should be a very simple concept(s) for Ms. Burke to comprehend.

Privacy & Choice.

89 posted on 09/27/2002 2:26:51 PM PDT by aREDSKIN
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Maybe the biggest reason to have an all male private club is to get away from stupid bitches like her.


90 posted on 09/27/2002 2:28:52 PM PDT by unixfox
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To: TomB
Double groan and triple sigh.

My #66 to you was in reply to this from you:

In #62 you quoted this from me:

Written rule or no, the evidence that they don't want women in Augusta is clear and convincing.

You replied:

You seem to be getting away from your original statement:

You then quoted the "orginal statement" from me:

There is a rule that prohibits women as members, but they can play the course.

I said you were nitpicking because it appeared you were trying to find a contradiction between my first quoted statement above and my second one. Since I did not specifically say they don't want women as members in the first statement, you implied that it was a deviation from the statement that they could play the course. My reply had nothing to do with what you may or may not have said about women being prohibited from play.

It's been fun. We'll leave it up to Augusta now.

91 posted on 09/27/2002 2:53:38 PM PDT by Orual
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To: watchin
Or, how about forming the NAAWP -- the National Association for the Advancement of White People.
92 posted on 09/27/2002 4:30:54 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: N. Theknow
And exactly what does the word "Golf" have as its origin?

Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden.

Actually, it was named Golf because all of the other four-letter words were taken.

Signed, a Golfer

93 posted on 09/27/2002 4:34:11 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: MassMinuteman
We have a local club, the MAC (Missouri Athletic Club) which was sectioned off to males only. The witches whined... until they were permitted to use male only facilities. Men swam in a 5th floor pool without suits - naked. Fortunately the cigar room still exists, but it's this kind of BS that is very unfortunate.
94 posted on 09/27/2002 6:18:38 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"We'll ask them for on-the-record statements reconciling their corporate policies with their memberships in Augusta," Burk told the paper.

What does the one have to do with the other?

95 posted on 09/27/2002 6:28:25 PM PDT by usadave
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To: PhilipFreneau
The United Caucasian College Fund? The National Orginization of Men? White Entertainment Television? The Congressional White Caucus?
96 posted on 09/28/2002 6:56:07 PM PDT by watchin
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To: isthisnickcool
Don't you find it interesting that many of the women's groups who are up in arms over Agusta's membership policy are themselves sexist by discriminating against men by not allowing male membership in their feminist organizations?
97 posted on 10/01/2002 1:29:53 PM PDT by Lulogic
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To: kcvl
Aww, Hooties' just a big blowfish....???
98 posted on 10/01/2002 2:08:10 PM PDT by american spirit
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