Pre-Emptive Strike? Sorry, but it is too late for that.

This entire argument decrying a "pre-emptive attack" is totally specious. In order for any American military attack on Iraq to be "pre-emptive" we would have had to have carried it out BEFORE the terrorist war on America had begun. And it is way, way, way too late for that, as our former president Bill Clinton has made quite sure of. In order to make this empty and irrelevant argument against America's national self defense, one would have to totally forget about or be unaware of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the assassination attempt on former President Bush, the abortive conspiracies to bomb the Lincoln Tunnel and the UN, the bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, the bombing of the American embassies in Africa, the bombing of the Cole, and the massacre of 3000 citizens on 9/11, not to mention the ever increasing indications of Iraqui involvement and perhaps planning and instigation of the Oklahoma City bombing. The War on America began long ago. They are the ones that attacked without provocation, the Islamofascist terrorists, supported by virulent anti-American, anti-democratic, anti-western totalitarian states. The arbitrary distinctions that liberal and leftist apologists for these monsters and murderers make between the various shadowy factions, groups, cells, alliances, and states that are responsible for the attacks on the United States are simply a form of denial; a vain attempt to somehow explain it all away, and not face the hard and terrible truth. America is at war. And it was they who declared war on us.

"Ah... but, but, but do you have concrete and irrefutable proof that Saddam Hussein was in any way involved in the "tragedy" of 9/11?" you hear our leftist friends and allies say, in their cliché bound and tiresome scripted manner. Keep those eyes tightly shut, Democrats! Clamp those hands over your ears, Bonior, McDermott, Feinstein, Gore, and Kennedy! There is a danger that even a tiny sliver of light, or heaven forbid, visual and documented confirmation of an actual fact might cross your retinas, and somehow affect your brain. As long as you keep out those facts, as long as you pretend that the obvious isn't true, and that the past has been forgotten, you can continue to pretend that you believe, with your entire heart and mind, that some how, some way, Saddam Hussein might just be telling the truth, ... this time. He might just be telling us, in good faith, that he REALLY intends on allowing UN inspectors to actually check and see for themselves that... "Hey, there aren't any weapons of mass destruction under Saddam's bed, let's go home boys!" In a pig's eye. I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

As we watch, clue after clue, fact after fact, testimony and witness, comes to light... documenting before our unbelieving eyes what we should have already suspected, and what many of us already knew; that Islamic terrorism is a coordinated multi-state run affair. It has been planned, aided, abetted, supplied, and carried out with the full consent and support of the usual suspects, namely Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Syria, Yemen, etc. And now we find out that in that list we must include at least influential and sometimes ruling groups within our "allies"... Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia and others.

We are also finding out the connection; through arms, logistics and intelligence, that China and North Korea have with the Al Quaeda and these terrorist states. Tonight, we saw documentary proof, by the warehouse full, of extensive Iranian and Iraqui support and direct involvement in suicide bombings and many, many other outrages in Israel and the middle east. The Israeli intelligence services clearly mean for us to finally begin to fathom just how deep and dangerous the worldwide Islamofascist terrorist conspiracy runs. And now we hear that weapons grade uranium is being smuggled from Europe to Iraq via Taxi cab, across the Turkish border. How much has already been sent to Saddam's nuclear bomb laboratories already? Any of you leftist, liberal, "Kumbaya singing" pacifists willing to hazard a guess? Do you want us to pretend that the seized shipment that brought this conduit of nuclear terror potential to light is the one and only one, and that no other quantities uranium or plutonium have ever made their way to Iraq anytime in the past 12 years?

For the last weeks and months, we have heard an every increasing "call for debate" on the Iraq issue. We have heard, in light of the facts and realities emphasized above, a chorus of empty-headed excuse making, dissembling, and equivocation, and out-right fabrications designed to make necessary and crucial military action against Iraq a political liability or even an impossibility for President Bush. We have heard idiots like former Vice President Gore, Senator Daschle, and the absurdly feeble and clearly incompetent Senator Byrd lie and obfuscate regarding the dire life and death issues of America's own national security, for shallow and short term political gain. I am sick to my soul with this insanity. Can anything or anyone wake these "ignoramouses" up to the impending horror and terror of 9/11 multiplied by 10, which will be the certain result of further Clintonesque bumbling, hand wringing. and legalistic dithering by these political misleaders? Well, the elections are coming. Perhaps we, the people of the United States, might just stage a replay of 1994... and change the course of history. We might just speak up and tell the idiots who have created this mess that we are tired of pretending that we are not at war, and sitting like ducks in a row. This would change the debate, forever and permanently. It could happen. We will see.

I am so tired of self deluding pundits mouthing the same cliched rhetoric, and repeating the same inanities about how is is "unprecedented that America strike first!" That train has left the station, to use another well worn cliche. Perhaps someday they will get "it", that this is a new and extremely dangerous kind of war that has been declared on us. A kind of war that they have failed to prepare us for, but which we cannot afford to waste any more time in taking up arms to fight. More empty headed drivel will not protect our nation or our people.

The truth is, the media have it exactly upside down. Far from struggling to link Saddam to 9/11 and the subsequent anthrax threats, the administration is working overtime to postpone the day when the penny drops and people finally twig what a pickle Saddam has put us in. Far from Iraq being a distraction from the War on Terror, the "War on Terror" was invented as a delaying tactic, to postpone dealing with the *real * war, the war that has been ongoing since 1991 -- the war with Saddam Hussein.

"Far from Iraq being a distraction from the War on Terror, the "War on Terror" was invented as a delaying tactic, to postpone dealing with the *real * war, the war that has been ongoing since 1991 ... " That is interesting, I was wondering the same thing - if the campaign in Afghanistan was not always a "sideshow" in the strategic thinking. But too much is secret.

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The Iraq v Kuwait/U.S. war began in 1991. Iraq was spared defeat because we listened to the U.N. The war immediately restarted as soon as Iraq fired on one of our planes in a hostile matter over the no-fly zone. Because the American people became too apathetic and self-centered, they allowed a man who "loathed the military" to become Commander-in-Chief. That meant eight years of humilation at the hands of Saddam. Its time to WIN this war definitivly, by defeating and removing the enemy leaders from a position of power. Then and only then can we say we won the Gulf war.

From where I view this current charade by Demoncrats, the criminal enterprise democrats will succeed in postponewarNIKing and a truly horrendous incident will prove (too late, obviously) that Democrats in power do not have OUR welfare as priority #1 (I firmly believe 9/11/01 was proof of clinton's negligewnce getting 3000 Americans murdered, and this current game by democrats will doubtless get tens-of-thousands more murdered ... but what do democrats care if it gets more of their ilk elected and serves their special interests?), they have their power as priority #1 so they demagogue our urgent situation, and they don't really give a damn how many Americans get caught in the meat grinder of war with Islamism as long as more demoncrats get elected. VOTE THE CRIMINAL, ANTI-AMERICAN BASTARDS OUT! [Bonior and his Saddam lacky entourage should be stripped of their American citizenship, and if they re-enter the U.S. they should be hung as treacherous traitors putting US at risk for their demagogic purposes.]

Politicizing the war on terrorism? The damn democrats are not only politicizing it, they are risking OUR necks by their 'demogoguery as usual' routine! [If anyone doubts ABC is a servant of the democrat party, note well the 'hiring' of Stephanopolous and his query today 'Do you have any evidence that the president is lying?' ... that was said by design, to raise the issue in a stealth mode, implying there may be evidence not yet revealed, so don't trust the elected president! The democrats are master manipulators, and they are pouncing on the war issues, to demagogue and divide this nation when it ought be united against the enemy. I HATE THE DEMOCRAT HEIRARCHY, the servants of evil.

This bears repeating...

We are also finding out the connection; through arms, logistics and intelligence, that China and North Korea have with the Al Quaeda and these terrorist states.
We are also finding out the connection; through arms, logistics and intelligence, that China and North Korea have with the Al Quaeda and these terrorist states.

It's long past time we BAN all trade with China.

"More insults and still not facts - no concrete linkage between Hussein and 9/11."

"I, a conserviate and historically a hawk, remain unconvinced and unimpressed."

Pardon my rant, but I sincerely want to make an important point, which is this. Despite the fact that there ARE a growing number of clues to cooperation and past logistic aid by Hussein to the Al Quaeda, this is not the issue. Hussein and his terrorist regime was and is a threat to the United States... by his and their own right. Bin Laden is hardly the inventor of terrorism, and was not the first to attack the United States. Our interests and nationals have been under terrorist attack for decades, by terrorists supported by Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan under the Taliban, Yemen, and Lebanon. Saddam Hussein's involvement in the 1993 bombing of the WTC is clear. More evidence of Iraqi involvement in the OK City bombing is coming to light. The distinctions made between the various shadowy elements of Islamic terrorism are largely pundit talk. There are no walls between these groups, and they do what the need to do to carry out their agenda of murder and destruction. We should not count on the dependability of past wisdom regarding the assumed "gulf" or "rift" between the fundamentalist Bin Laden and the secular tyrant Hussein. To do so is to set ourselves up to be blind sided and to offer that very channel for use in attacks against the United States. Contingency plans must be based on the potential of a threat, and not wishful thinking.

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