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CONSPIRACY: The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection
Philadelphia News ^ | Oct. 03, 2002 | Michael Smerconish

Posted on 10/03/2002 8:14:28 AM PDT by aculeus

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To: Poohbah
...he wasn't running against Saddam Hussein...*

No, but if in or shortly after 1992 Clinton had thought he might again face Bush I in 4 years, having specific knowledge of Bush-Hussein dealings prior to or during the Gulf War similar to those that Bush had previously maintained as CIA Director with Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega could have been at least as potentially useful to the Clintons as those 400+ FBI files Clinton had on other political adversaries- and allies.

-archy-/-

101 posted on 10/04/2002 7:16:23 AM PDT by archy
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To: aculeus
...>>>I think Oswald killed Kennedy, and that he acted alone....<<<

Uh, well I couldn't think of a worse choice of words to write off any further opinion offered in the article.

Premise: I am a knucklehead.
Text: Nothing else I say will have any credence.

102 posted on 10/04/2002 7:20:21 AM PDT by fone
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To: flamefront; Triple
To. FlameFront: Whoa Flamefront, hold your horses! I was just asking questions and requesting for feedback not digging for some Freeper to come and tell me i am a 'Newbie' or something! Actually the fact that i may not have been on FR for years is a moot point and you bringing it up instead of just going and giving me your answers is rather wierd (it is tantamount to an old timer telling a baby boomer 'you do not know about finance because you were not alive through the Great Depression).

Anyways i am not here to start a flame fight over a thread that (as i said) i am neutral about. There are threads i will engage in silly rhetoric over but not this one. There are too many unknowns still and discussing about 'newbies' and such types of logical progression is a waste of time for me.

However as to your answers (the ones that had nothing with newbies and other 'tricks' Freepers who have been on FR for years use) i think you have some rather good points. The three points you gave were quite enlightening. I just wish you went straight to them instead of flexing feeble muscle about your veteran status on FR during the 'Clinton impeachment era.' That was weak.

And just because i am several months old on FR (and several more as a lurker) does not mean Freepers like yourself should equate that with what you refer to as 'politically frozen attitudes' (your words). If i did have 'politically frozen attitudes' i would nto have inquired in the first place ......but rushed ahead and spouted forth how sure i am on the matter (and maybe given unrequested 'info' on Freepers, like lets say i was a 'veteran of the Clinton impeachment era')

However again thanks for your answers ....but you could have still given them to me without telling me of your impeachment battlescars and how i must have 'politically frozen attitudes.' I needed the answers not the lecture!

As for the links on your profile (you told me i could get good info on this topic) thanks a bunch. Another Freeper had actually used private Freepmail to link me to more such sources, and i have to admit there is stuff that shows what happened in OKC is very fishy and there is a coverup. Thus thanks for the links.

However you also said the following when telling me to go look at the links: If you are serious about being interested dig up some of the articles on my profile. Unfortunately the owner of this forum agrees with your views and may be intending to remove this info. Let me say this FlameFront, i have no views on this subject apart from the fact i think there is a coverup that happened. However i do not know what the coverup is on. And that is why i posted the questions. I do not know what Jim Robinson's views are, and chances are i would not even care to know (no harm intended). Thus saying my views correlate with his is a non-starter, and it would be prudent to target your vitriol towards someone who deserves it! I was merely asking a question, and yet you somehow feel led to chastise me for asking! And what is funny this is a topic that concerns me as much as you do (that there is a coverup involving the lives of Americans). Use your bullets well Flamefront ...against those deserving of them.

To. Triple: When i said there were 'several holes to this theory' i was not saying it was a silly! All i said is there were some parts that did not make comprehensive sense to me ...and that is why i went ahead and asked for answers (thankfully some Freepers Freepmailed them to me ...but others decided that they would also give me a 'lecture' on their old war wounds on FR ...not you by the way). Anyways i am still debating on this topic. I think there is a coverup, but i am trying to define (to the best of my ability plus the links various freepers have either posted or freepmailed to me) what that coverup is about.

103 posted on 10/04/2002 7:31:46 AM PDT by spetznaz
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To: phasma proeliator
ping
104 posted on 10/04/2002 7:31:54 AM PDT by da_toolman
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To: spetznaz
Ok - I'll help, if you help me figure out where to begin.

"I thinkt hat there is some basis to this theiry, but the reason it has not been emphasised is due to the fcat there are no facts and the linkages to Iraq are at best nebulous" - Spetznaz

Why do you think there is basis to this theory, if you think there are no facts or strong links to Iraq?

If you don't answer, I won't know where to begin. (and It will confirm that you are disingenuous)

Regards for now,

105 posted on 10/04/2002 8:19:48 AM PDT by Triple
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To: honway; RaceBannon; Jim Robinson
"You had a thread pulled on FR"

Ugh...I dont have the juice to pull threads. Jim Robinson pulled your thread stupid.
Next time you'll provide a link to the stroy wont you? Putz.

"and you show up here asking "If this is true""

I asked no such question. You must be a criminal without comprehension skills.

Grow up and stop being a tin foil cry baby....if you cant follow the rules. Log off and go play in traffic.

106 posted on 10/04/2002 9:16:26 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: honway
Thanks for the link and your earlier bump to me.
107 posted on 10/04/2002 10:15:00 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: spetznaz
WHy would Clinton cover up the Iraqi connection. Revelation would force him to do something about the threat. And Iraqis in the US are not farfetched; here in Boston, last October, we had 2 iraqis arrested for some mischief with a suitcase at Logan. Never made the national news.

But here's how they were let in after Desert Storm; they were deserters or claimed to be political refugees and got asylum in the US. They lived here for close to 10 years, getting married, jobs, etc until they were nabbed at Logan. We were never told why or what was in their suitcase. Made the local papers but not the Globe or Herald.

Clinton's and the Democratic Party's reluctance to confront any threats to the US came from his reluctance to take suitable action against the Iraqis no matter what the evidence; Read Laura Mylroie's book - the Clinton admin considered her a fruitcake.

And McVeigh's motivation? He was horrified by what he say during Desert Storm and became influenced by islamists; his buddy made numerous trips to the Phillipines; numerous terrorist connections and plots there, so it'd be easy to hook up with those types.

And the first APB's after OKC referred to a pickup with 2 ME looking men. By noon that day, the APB was revoked with no explanation. Dallas media reported it. I was there and heard it.
108 posted on 10/04/2002 10:20:01 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: VaBthang4
Grow up and stop being a tin foil cry baby....if you cant follow the rules. Log off and go play in traffic.

I detect some hatred in your reply. Have you considered following your own motto?

109 posted on 10/04/2002 10:28:25 AM PDT by honway
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To: Triple; flamefront; All
Why do you think there is basis to this theory, if you think there are no facts or strong links to Iraq? If you don't answer, I won't know where to begin. (and It will confirm that you are disingenuous -----Triple

Wow, where simple questions lead!

Anyways let me explain to you why i think there is a basis to this yet i do not see any strong linkages to Iraq on the OKC bombing. It is as follows.

I see a basis in this 'conspiracy' because a lot of things do not make sense. The reports coming aftre the bombing are totally different from those a few days later. There are also people who are saying (and are in positions that allow them to know) that there was some sort of coverup, that the suspects were changed, and that what should have been a pretty straight forward investigation has become mired in controversy and thoroughly nebulous.

Hence my saying there seems to be a basis for a conspiracy since the ground is well seeded for it. And that is also why i said i believe there is something here the public does not know.

However that is where i go to the second part of my premise where i said that although i think there is a basis for a conspiracy theory (after all there are very many question marks), even though there are questionmarks there is no direct solid proof. Up to now what we have is hearsay and speculation (there are people who have solid credentiasl who are saying there is something nefarious afoot, however officially they are marginalized). This is not to say there is no conspiracy ...it just means no concrete linkages have been established (or maybe a better statement is that no concrete linkages have been released to the public domain).

Hence my assertion that although i think there is a basis for this theory yet i do not see any strong links or facts. I hope that answers your question.

at this point let me re-emphasise that i do not know why you are being so acerbic! I was just asking some darn question yet you are acting like i threw stones at your holy cow!

and then you make statements as follows: If you don't answer, I won't know where to begin. (and It will confirm that you are disingenuous)

Please tell me how i am being 'disingenous' in asking a question. And also how come only you two are feeling disturbed by my questions (i have had 4 Freepmail messages from Freepers and they have answered my questions comprehensively without trying to tell me how long they have been on FR or calling me 'disingenous!'

However you and FlameFront seem to be acting like i commited anathema or something! FlameFront accused me of having a 'politically frozen attitude' while you have said my not answering your question will 'confirm that i am disingenous!' Actually this is hilarious. FlameFront had made a point that i am a 'newbie' because i registered months ago instead of years ago ....and both of you are people who have been on FR for years. However your statements nullify and completely negate any point that states being on FR for years makes someone 'better.' After all all the people who freepmailed me have been on FR for much less time than either of you two, however none of those people tried to 'confirm i am disingenous' or called me 'politically frozen.' None of them ...they just answered the questions and then gave me their personal opinions. However you two fellas seem to try to dig up things that are not there!

And if that makes me 'disingenous' Triple all i can say is i am glad you are the only one who thinks so.

And if my saying so is 'disingenous' then ....hmmmmm.....i guess i must be!

However i can assure you that no matter how 'disingenous' you might think me to be when i asked the questions i was simply asking questions and looking for answers. However i guess when Freepers stay on FR for years they acquire clairvoyant abilities to detect 'disingenous newbies!'

Now i need to rush off and do something Triple, so if you ask another question with the following tag (If you don't answer, I won't know where to begin. (and It will confirm that you are disingenuous) and i take too long to answer then that is because i am away from my computer. Hence my 'disingenuity' will be due to my being away not from hiding due to my 'political freeze' and unabated disingenuity.'

110 posted on 10/04/2002 10:31:32 AM PDT by spetznaz
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To: honway

Four US Government Officials Describe DOJ Cover-up of Iraq Connection to OKC Bombing

Posted by VaBthang4 to honway; Sidebar Moderator; Admin Moderator; MP5SD; xsmommy; rintense; deport; Torie; kayak; ...
On News/Activism Oct 1 8:44 PM #35 of 37

Until you can provide a link to this story, wisdom dictates that it be disregarded if not pulled outright.
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111 posted on 10/04/2002 10:32:39 AM PDT by honway
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To: honway; justshe; xsmommy
Ugh...you're right...I must repent...if I were as stupid as you are I would hope someone would be more patient with me.

LOL

112 posted on 10/04/2002 10:49:21 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: honway; justshe; xsmommy
You poor tortured soul...did somwuddy puww youw fwed cause it didnt have a wink?

Awe...

I see the admin jacked another one of your posts huh? Man you have a pretty lame average. Good boy finally giving a link what...three or four days later? Haha...

113 posted on 10/04/2002 10:54:10 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: spetznaz
BTTT
114 posted on 10/04/2002 10:55:40 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: Mo1
but think he had Senator Spector on today talking about this and he said he would have a meeting with this Reporter

Michael asked if he could sit in this conference and broadcast it .. I think Spector said something like I'll have to let you know ..

Getting Arlen Specter involved would be great for the blowing the lid of this conspiracy. He certainly didn't take the Warren Commission lying down. </sarcasm off>

115 posted on 10/04/2002 10:56:26 AM PDT by bigeasy_70118
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To: VaBthang4
Knock it off!
116 posted on 10/04/2002 10:56:44 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: honway
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Awe....HAHAHA...."L".

117 posted on 10/04/2002 10:57:23 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Fred Mertz
Ugh, Go away Pops...save your rebuke for the individual who started the flame.
118 posted on 10/04/2002 10:58:47 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: bigeasy_70118
LOL .. I do see your point

But I think Michael is trying to get anyone and everyone involved in this story

119 posted on 10/04/2002 10:59:28 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: aculeus
Five witnesses independently fingered several of Al-Hussaini's associates ...

Huh ... sounds like a possible Klintoon connection. All I want to know is what did he know, and when did he know it.

120 posted on 10/04/2002 11:03:29 AM PDT by Olydawg
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