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'Full Monty' Bush gets it exactly right
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | 10/8/02 | Myriam Marquez

Posted on 10/08/2002 9:06:43 AM PDT by windchime

COMMENTARY

'Full Monty' Bush gets it exactly right Myriam Marquez

October 8, 2002

Democrats have their undies in a bunch over Gov. Jeb Bush's "devious" talk of "a full Monty" if voters approve small class sizes for all public schools. That Jeb, he's so naughty.

Only in Florida, already the butt of late-night TV jokes about our seeming inability to count votes, would education become a "sexy" political topic. To throw in another political metaphor, watch the governor run with the ball on this one -- and win.

Because he's right.

Asking voters to say "yes" to the constitutional amendment for smaller class sizes without exposing the true costs of such a mandate is fiscally shortsighted and multibillion-dollar-foolish. Democrat Bill McBride's own education plan limits class sizes only to the third grade. McBride, who has yet to distance himself on a single education issue from his million-dollar backer, the teachers union, says he'll vote for the class-size amendment even though it's a budget buster.

Enter Bush's "fully Monty."

Bush was caught off guard last week when he didn't realize a Gannett News Service reporter was in the room recording his comments as he met with Panhandle legislators.

The governor suggested "a couple of devious plans" if the amendment passes. One would limit the money the union uses for collective bargaining and redirect that money to increase starting teacher salaries, which are woefully behind the national average. The other plan would list which programs would have to be cut and which taxes would have to be raised to pay for smaller classes and more teachers. "I've got a couple of devious plans, if this thing passes, that we might want to consider having another look at it -- kind of the fully Monty," Bush said on tape.

Oh, so titillating. So devious. Not!

Bush didn't say much of anything in private that McBride surely worries about, too. Where do we find the money?

At a recent meeting with the Sentinel's editorial board, Bush hinted that, if the class-size limit passes, he would try to take the proposal before the voters again -- this time with a full accounting of the costs.

He also lamented being unfairly blamed for keeping teacher salaries low when those are not set by the state -- they are negotiated between school districts and the teachers union. Districts note that even though the state has increased education spending by as much as 7 percent in just one year, they haven't been able to put that much money toward teacher salaries alone. Other needs, such as spiking health-care insurance costs and rising student enrollment, keep gobbling up the bottom line.

Obviously Bush would have rather kept secret that he was contemplating a mandated starting-teacher salary statewide. After all, local control is a Republican mantra, even though it's not always a panacea. Sure enough, by Friday he was distancing himself from that idea. Not without sarcasm he added, "I will lose the election if I do the full Monty," a reference to the British film where down-and-out guys dance nekked.

Here's the naked truth:

The problem with the amendment isn't its goal, it's its full sweep. Why didn't small-class-size activists focus on the poorest schools, where class size can really make a difference and improve students' academic performance? Easy. Middle-class voters probably wouldn't buy one more "entitlement" for the poor. So politicians who want to help inner-city schools made it a feel-good cause for all. It's Mom and apple pie a la mode, with sprinkles!

Bush argues that a statewide mandate would tie the governor's hands, making it difficult to help the neediest D and F schools, which now get extra money for after-school tutoring, more reading teachers and the like. He makes a good case.

Where he's way off the mark is in the $27 billion price tag he uses to scare people about the class-size costs over a decade. For one, that estimate figures new classrooms would be built on a cash-only basis when the state has a long history of using bonds to pay off construction costs over several decades.

Voters do deserve an independent estimate of the true costs of the class-size amendment, though. There's nothing devious about that.

Myriam Marquez can be reached at mmarquez@orlandosentinel.com

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush; elections; florida
More 'devious' details about our Governor Bush!
1 posted on 10/08/2002 9:06:43 AM PDT by windchime
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To: summer; Ragtime Cowgirl; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; Joe Brower; NautiNurse
FYI
2 posted on 10/08/2002 9:11:08 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
wait . . . it seems that The Sentinel is actually saying that the Governor did something right. My eyes must be lying.
3 posted on 10/08/2002 9:12:21 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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4 posted on 10/08/2002 9:19:46 AM PDT by William McKinley
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Actually, the Orlando Sentinel has said Governor Bush is right more than once.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/762476/posts


"My eyes must be lying."
Seeing is believing!
5 posted on 10/08/2002 9:42:51 AM PDT by windchime
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To: William McKinley
Bump!
6 posted on 10/08/2002 9:46:12 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime; summer; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; Goldwater Girl; PhiKapMom; Wait4Truth; ...
Whoo, hoo! Thanks for the post and the ping, windchime. A journalist telling the voters the truth. This is so great. There's no excuse for the Gannett-AP cover-up of the "class-size" fraud.

Ms. Marquez is wrong about the $27 billion bill. The Florida Tax Watch, a very independent organization, did an extensive study and found that the cost to Fla. taxpayers would be between $20 - $27 billion. Jeb wasn't lying.

AP, Gannett, McBride and the teacher's unions have been lying about the final cost...claiming that it could cost the taxpayers less than a billion. The Florida press is asking the wrong parties for an explanation.

Incidentally, Bill McBride's wife Alex Sink was the "Chair-Elect" of the Florida Tax Watch, the organization behind this study, in 2000

Official Price Tag on Class Size Initiative - Florida Tax Watch (BAD IDEA, McBride!)

If you want on or off my "'til election day" Fla. Freeper ping list, please ping me.

7 posted on 10/08/2002 10:58:44 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: windchime; Ragtime Cowgirl; JulieRNR21
Thanks for the ping on this. Myriam is the one journalist who is giving ALL the facts here - and voters should judge for themselves what I mean.

I have to tell you - I have listened to the audio, and immediately after Gov Bush says the words "devious plans" he explains what he means: giving the voter ALL the info about this amendment, the cost, the cutting of programs, etc.

Full disclosure to voters - the "full monty" as Gov Bush says.

The media now criticizing Gov Bush is blowing this all out of proportion.

An audio link is found in this article from florida capital news:

CLICK HERE FOR ARTICLE WITH AUDIO LINK TO GOV BUSH SPEAKING

This criticism of Gov Bush is even more lame than I thought. I hope every voter hears this audio link, with the governor speaking his mind. What a shockeroo! He wants the voters to have MORE facts! How DEVIOUS can you get!
8 posted on 10/08/2002 11:10:31 AM PDT by summer
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; summer; windchime; Joe Brower
It seems to me that Jeb was using 'satire' in his choice of the word 'devious'.....if anyone has been 'devious' i.e. 'secretive' it is McB by refusing to address the horrendous cost of the class size ammendment.

Nice to see the Orlando paper siding with the Governor!
9 posted on 10/08/2002 11:25:19 AM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: JulieRNR21
bttt
10 posted on 10/08/2002 11:29:27 AM PDT by summer
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To: windchime
Good news! ;)
11 posted on 10/08/2002 11:30:47 AM PDT by katherineisgreat
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To: windchime
Expel illegals and export their criminal alien parents. That is the bottom line.
12 posted on 10/08/2002 11:34:24 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Maybe someone can ask Rossin about the class size amendment cost at the debate this Thursday night. FYI:

There will be a televised debate between Senator Tom Rossin and Frank Brogan on October 10th from 8pm-9pm in Tallahassee.

This debate is sponsored by The Florida Channel and moderated by Beth Switzer.

The following local affiliates agreed to air the debate live: WBCC- Cocoa, WJCT- Jacksonville, WLRN- Miami WMFE- Orlando, WFSG- Panama City, WSRE- Pensacola WFSU- Tallahassee, WEDU- Tampa

The following local affiliates will air the debate at a later time (times noted): WCEU- Daytona Beach (Friday, October 11, 8 p.m.) WGCU- Ft. Myers (Thursday, October 10, 9 p.m.) WUFT- Gainesville (Thursday, October 10, 9 p.m.) WPBT- Miami (Thursday, October 10, 11 p.m.) WUSF- Tampa (Thursday, October 10, 9 p.m.)

If you are outside of these areas, please contact your local Public Broadcasting affiliate (listed below). Let them know this debate is an important part of the political process and it is important that they carry it.

WXEL- West Palm Beach (561.737.8000)

This was copy and paste job. Sorry bout the format but at least we've got the stations, "kinda, sorta" (Jebism).

13 posted on 10/08/2002 1:31:26 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: windchime; Ragtime Cowgirl
This is factual and funny. I like, "That Jeb, he's so naughty." RAOFLMAO

She's poking fun at the dems trying to demonize Governor Bush. How kewl is that?

14 posted on 10/08/2002 1:33:00 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter; summer; JulieRNR21; windchime
Kewl! (^: Jeb knows the Florida press. Swamp rats aplenty. Ethical journalists can not condemn our Gov. Jeb doesn't roll over for organized crime. The VLWC hates that. Hah! Jeb actually succeeded in getting (mimimal) tort reform...but an awesome accomplishment and one that could embolden honorable politicians across the country. Jeb's one courageous man...and the crooks are gunning for him.

I want a 'deputy' badge.

15 posted on 10/08/2002 3:46:52 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: windchime
VRWC Bump!
16 posted on 10/08/2002 5:45:26 PM PDT by windchime
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To: floriduh voter
VERY! Bet they just hate it!
17 posted on 10/08/2002 9:05:30 PM PDT by windchime
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To: summer; floriduh voter; Ragtime Cowgirl; Joe Brower; JulieRNR21; NautiNurse
This editorial piece illustrates Daniel Ruth's inability to 'move on' from what is evidently the only derrogatory commentary he can come up with on our Governor JEB!. (exclamation point STILL intact)

'Of course, the most obvious question surrounding Gov. Jeb Bush's big- time gaffe last week is: ``What were you thinking?''' Yes Ruth, LAST WEEK!

http://www.tampatrib.com/MGAT0BGJ27D.html

I'm sending Ruth the opinion piece by Myriam Marquez and the Tampa Tribune an opinion piece of my own on Daniel Ruth.
18 posted on 10/10/2002 7:52:12 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
Good job! Maybe McBride and his press pals should keep it up-

Today's Tampa Tribune

A Case Of Dirty Politics

Published: Oct 8, 2002

I am responding to the Oct. 5 front-page coverage of your newspaper, ``Bush Backpedals.'' As a conservative Democrat, it is very difficult for me to try to focus on the issues when I read a newspaper that attempts to uneven the playing field. I am writing about how The Tampa Tribune gives this article front- page coverage with four weeks to go in the election, yet the Miami Herald and other newspapers throughout the state do not give the subject an inch of ink. How dare Alisa LaPolt or anyone question Gov. Bush and his character and credibility at this time in the election process? It is nothing more than tabloid journalism and media hype to the citizens of a county that Bill McBride calls home. I can only hope that your readers can see through the Tribune's story and focus on the issues. Just because McBride is from Tampa doesn't make him the best choice.

Janet Reno's out; now, let's attack Bush? It is sad that the Tribune attempts to make Bush's sidebar conversations an issue at this point. Politics is dirty. I am sure McBride speaks the same behind closed doors. Democrats and Alisa LaPolt alike are doing anything and everything they can to minimize Bush's relevance in this election. There is no need for the Tribune to get involved in the hype. Let's be fair and balanced, Mother Trib. I am certainly not going to change my opinion of Bush or his policies because of the actions of a tabloid journalist!

*******Tampa


19 posted on 10/10/2002 8:45:46 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Wow! THIS dem is Florida's friend. I hope there are lots more like him!
20 posted on 10/10/2002 8:59:04 AM PDT by windchime
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