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Interest in Latin Rising in Schools
abcnews ^ | 11/10/02

Posted on 10/11/2002 11:09:55 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat

A funny thing happened on the way to higher standards: Schools remembered Latin.

As educators work to improve student performance in basic subjects such as reading, math, history and science, a few are finding that Latin, long thought stuffy and irrelevant, can help.

Classes in Latin, which once attracted only college-bound students, are drawing youngsters from all backgrounds. Sales of Latin textbooks and materials are up, and even elementary schools are starting programs. The number of students taking Advanced Placement exams in Latin is nearly double what it was a decade ago.

"I think Latin always traditionally comes to the fore when people think about raising standards because it's a bedrock subject," said Marion Polsky, a Latin teacher in Scarsdale, N.Y., and author of a popular series of basic Latin textbooks.

Science uses Latin for everything from medical terminology to genus and species classification. Although Latin is no longer spoken, it once spread with the Roman empire across Europe, Asia and northern Africa and is the root of modern Romance languages such as Spanish, Italian and French.

Teachers love the cross-pollination of Latin terms with English, as well as science and history, said Frank Morris, an associate professor of classics at the College of Charleston.

"One of the things that makes Latin appealing to teachers is that it does multiple things for them," he said. "It has a very broad application."

Kyle Seton, a senior at Chancellor High School in Fredericksburg, Va., agreed. "We learn a lot of English terminology in here. We go more in-depth than English (class) would."

The love affair with Latin is especially hot in Virginia, Texas and Massachusetts, three states pushing heavily for higher standards.

At Chancellor, Mark Keith teaches five Latin classes daily. Early one recent morning he greeted students with a chipper, "Salvete, discipuli!" (Greetings, students!)

They responded, a bit sleepily, "Salve, magister." (Greetings, teacher.)

"Quomodo sentitis hodie?" (How do you feel today?)

Responses varied.

The lesson began with a translation of the Spotsylvania County motto. He tapped on the chalk board beneath the words "Patior ut potiar." (I suffer in order that I may possess.)

Several students quickly offered slicker translations.

One raised his hand and said: "I work for a living."

Another: "No pain no gain."

A third sang to himself, "I work hard for the money...."

Getting students to focus on speaking the language helps keep them interested, educators say.

"Instead of just drearily memorizing charts and not understanding how to apply the information, it's taught more as a natural language," said Polsky.

Forget verb conjugations. Latin students these days are talking, singing and translating love poems. A glass case outside Keith's room is stuffed with trophies from speaking competitions.

"I always tell students, `We're here to communicate with the Romans,'" Keith said.

Even with the new focus, enrollments are nowhere near the level of 100 or even 50 years ago, when studying Latin was often required.

In 1895, about 44 percent of American students took Latin, driven in no small part by the fact that it was the language of the Catholic Church. By 1962, after the Vatican began letting churches use their native languages, less than 7 percent of students were studying Latin.

The American Council on the Teaching of Foreign Languages reports that in 1990, there were 163,923 public high school students or 1.5 percent studying Latin. Ten years later, 177,477 public high school students or 1.3 percent took the language.

The College Board, which administers Advanced Placement exams, said the number of high school students taking Latin tests for college credit has risen 95 percent since 1993. Sales of Latin materials, including Polsky's books, have risen steadily since the mid-1990s, said Cathy Wilson of Pearson Prentice Hall.

Since Virginia began implementing its stringent Standards of Learning tests in the mid-1990s, Keith said he has begun teaching not only college-bound students, but also teens who don't plan to attend college.

Younger students get a mouthful of Latin when they read the popular Harry Potter books. "Expelliarmus," a recurring spell that disarms an opponent, is Latin for "disarm."

That fact isn't lost on Marie Davis, a full-time Latin teacher at Daniels Run Elementary School in suburban Fairfax, Va. She refers to the books periodically.

Striding recently into a third-grade classroom wearing a stola, or long dress, and a capella a haircap made of braided wire Davis handed out folders.

"Ubi est Connor?" (Where is Connor?)

A tiny hand went up. "Hic sum." (Here I am.)

"Ubi est Diego?"

After handing out the folders, Davis guided the class again, quickly through a counting lesson, "de uno ad triginta" (from one to 30), then on to a lesson on word roots.

It helps students learn vocabulary, "as opposed to just memorizing it," she said afterward.

"Economics," for instance, comes from the same root as "ecosphere" "eco," or "oikos," originally a Greek term meaning "house."

She said proudly, "They know what an 'oikos' is in third grade."


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1 posted on 10/11/2002 11:09:55 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
I took Latin

Graduated "skinnibus teethibus."

2 posted on 10/11/2002 11:15:14 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Yes! My moronic school offered only Spanish and French. I took a year of French (a collosal waste; I eventually gave up*) and my brother took Spanish. He found it useful when he worked construction during the summers (talking to the cheap laborers), but other than that it seemed to be utterly useless.

Latin, I have found, is incredibly useful in the areas of law, medicine, science and religion. Unfortunately my school district was more interested in producing community college drop-outs and washed-up high school athletes than they were in producing doctors, lawyers, scientists or theologians. I always regretted never having the chance to take a classical language in school.

* Bitter irony intended.

3 posted on 10/11/2002 11:15:52 AM PDT by Conagher
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
I was a very mediocre Spanish student. I didn't want to drag down my GPA, so I switched to Latin, which I did well at. Now after taking Latin, I'm pretty sure I could well at Spanish. I plan on studying it when time permits. I think a good understanding of Latin provides a template for learning so many other languages.
4 posted on 10/11/2002 11:19:30 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: N. Theknow; Jakarta ex-pat
"I have a vevy gveat fviend in Vome called Biggus Dickus.

"He has a wife, you know. Do you know what she's called? She's called... Incontinentia. Incontinentia Buttocks."

Life of Brian, Scene XIII.

5 posted on 10/11/2002 11:20:51 AM PDT by Conagher
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To: Welsh Rabbit
I think a good understanding of Latin provides a template for learning so many other languages.

I didn't mean to state a well known fact as if I had come up with it myself...
6 posted on 10/11/2002 11:22:30 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Sum
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Summus
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7 posted on 10/11/2002 11:22:45 AM PDT by Vladiator
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To: Conagher
Yeah, also taking Latin will make you appreciate the humor in that scene in the Life of Brian where Eric Idol is trying to write "Romans go home!" on the barracks wall.
8 posted on 10/11/2002 11:25:32 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit
But its so true. I took Latin, and it helped me tremendously in my classes in college when I studied to be a teacher. Another bonus of Latin is that by studying it and the Romans, it helps ground the student in Western culter and Western values, rather than the usual PC pablum that is passed off as education.
9 posted on 10/11/2002 11:28:02 AM PDT by egarvue
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To: Welsh Rabbit
My classicist roommate and private-schooled roommate had to explain that whole scene to me.

Just an aside, did you know that whole troupe consists of a bunch of unemployed classics majors?

10 posted on 10/11/2002 11:28:20 AM PDT by Conagher
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To: Welsh Rabbit
I think a good understanding of Latin provides a template for learning so many other languages.

I've heard Romainian described as "a cross between Latin and Russian," and Farsi described as "a cross between Latin and Arabic." As a member of the last generation to learn the Latin mass, I've considered revisiting that language someday. Perhaps in the course of home schooling my youngest two kids? My older two and I studied NT Greek together once upon a time, attending Sunday classes taught by an erudite local pastor.

I'm working on Italian at the moment, and running into a lot of cognates.

One serious disadvantage to learning Latin is the classical literature. Rumor has it that Unitarianism got started when pastors with classical educations, and more brains than sense, began looking upon the God of the Bible with the same condesending contempt as the Latin writers had for their deities.

11 posted on 10/11/2002 11:30:34 AM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Latin-English/English-Latin Online Dictionary (JAVA Req'd)
12 posted on 10/11/2002 11:30:37 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: Conagher
"Centuwion, why do they titter so?"

"Some sort of Jewish joke sir."

"Vewy well, wewease Woderwick!"

13 posted on 10/11/2002 11:33:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: Conagher
yeah I know what you mean, my mother took latin when she went to high school and i developed an interest, but my school doesn't have it so the most interesting language to me after that was spanish. this is stupid. but imagine what a sophistical sounding society we would have if we were to use latin.

i wish i could take latin.
14 posted on 10/11/2002 11:35:34 AM PDT by youngtechster
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To: TomSmedley
I'm working on Italian at the moment, and running into a lot of cognates

If get good at Italian, learning Latin should be easy. I've had friends who were good Latin students, but knew no Italian, and were able to make themselves understood when vactioning in Italy.
15 posted on 10/11/2002 11:37:43 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Jakarta ex-pat; Sir Gawain
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
16 posted on 10/11/2002 11:38:42 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Handy Latin Phrases
17 posted on 10/11/2002 11:39:08 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur."

-- "Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound."

18 posted on 10/11/2002 11:40:09 AM PDT by alancarp
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To: Welsh Rabbit
You didn't need to understand the Latin to get that lol.
19 posted on 10/11/2002 11:40:09 AM PDT by weikel
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To: egarvue; youngtechster
Another bonus of Latin is that by studying it and the Romans, it helps ground the student in Western culture and Western values, rather than the usual PC pablum that is passed off as education.

That's probably why Latin courses are being discontinued in so many high schools and colleges.
20 posted on 10/11/2002 11:41:29 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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