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(AL QAEDA) Terrorist planned nuclear base raid
The Daily Telegraph ^ | November 16, 2002 | Philip Delves Broughton

Posted on 11/15/2002 5:12:32 PM PST by MadIvan

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To: Dog Gone
Hmmm, it's out of stock at Amazon.com.

Have you read The Year of the Rat? It tells everything Clinton sold to China for his '96 election, and how he did it (scary!).
It's frightening . You would not believe all the stuff he did for them and sold to them.
My husbsand was in the army, and he said he wished he'd never read the book. He said it was an American horror story. The most frightening thing he's ever read.

21 posted on 11/15/2002 5:40:34 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Dog Gone
Well, check it out from your library.
22 posted on 11/15/2002 5:43:47 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Bogey780
They don't have the guts to attack a soldier directly. It's always civvies or sniper attacks.

As opposed to... killing a soldier from 30,000 feet in the air, or launching a cruise missile from 100+ miles away? Careful, or you'll end up insulting our own armed forces as well.

23 posted on 11/15/2002 5:49:09 PM PST by Locked and Loaded
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To: concerned about politics
Yes, I did. It should be required reading in school.
24 posted on 11/15/2002 5:50:22 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Yes, I did. It should be required reading in school.

Pretty creepy, aye? An American so- called President did this to the American people!!! Grrrr.

25 posted on 11/15/2002 5:54:19 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Locked and Loaded
That's only part of our attack strategy. We're not exactly pussyfooting it in Afghanistan now.
26 posted on 11/15/2002 5:59:07 PM PST by Bogey780
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To: Kerberos
He is probably thrilled to be in a cell.
27 posted on 11/15/2002 6:05:28 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: MadIvan
The former German league player lived in London in the late 1990s and listened to sermons from the Islamic cleric Abu Qatada, who has been linked to al-Qa'eda

This is the source of the rot. So-called clerics who preach hatred and murder. Naive people who listen to this sort of brainwashing, week in and week out can be turned into homicidal maniacs.

Like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton inciting a riot, it is these leaders who are stirring up trouble and they ought to be the principal targets of our anti-terrorism efforts.

28 posted on 11/15/2002 6:11:33 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: OldFriend
"He is probably thrilled to be in a cell"

LOL...Let's see, I can drive a truck, loaded with explosives into a building with 20 nuclear warheads or, chill out in a jail cell. Hmmm-tough choice.

It just struck me odd that he claimed he didn't have a choice. Well we all have choices and I might suggest that the first choice that might have been in his best interest would be not hanging out with terrorist groups.

29 posted on 11/15/2002 6:16:30 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: StormEye; Dog Gone; MadIvan; Kerberos; Poohbah; concerned about politics
This is making me wonder if the target that this guy's handlers TOLD him he was going to take out was the REAL target they were planning to take out. I seem to recall that there were some shreds of evidence to suspect that not all of the terrorists on the four planes back on 9/11 actually knew that this was to be a suicide mission. I could see them telling this guy that he was going to blow up a bunker containing nukes because that might be more motivating, and thus assure that he would follow through, than if he knew that the actual target was a bit more mundane.

It may very well be AlQaida SOP for nobody in a cell to know the true assignment until just prior to activation, and then perhaps only one person in the cell knows the true assignment and all the other cell members are given a different story.

30 posted on 11/15/2002 6:20:13 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
"It may very well be AlQaida SOP for nobody in a cell to know the true assignment until just prior to activation, and then perhaps only one person in the cell knows the true assignment and all the other cell members are given a different story. "

That would not surprise me at all. They are very careful about disseminating information so that if one gets caught, there's not much he knows to talk about.

31 posted on 11/15/2002 6:31:16 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: MadIvan
Here were some earlier articles -

Al-Qaida Suspect Confesses (in Belgium)

Al-Qaeda suspect planned to hit Nato base in Belgium

Belgium - Nizar Trabelsi admits preparing an attack on U.S. military base for Osama bin Laden

32 posted on 11/15/2002 6:38:39 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: MadIvan
Wow, are these guys really really dumb.

We're talking far left end of the bell curve here.

33 posted on 11/15/2002 6:52:19 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: MadIvan
Why is it that every time these detainees speak, I get the feeling they've been reading Tom Clancy novels while in custody?
34 posted on 11/15/2002 7:36:20 PM PST by rintense
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To: MadIvan
Thanks, Ivan.

This is the first I've heard of this incident. One wonders what other incidents the authorities have found beneficial to suppress. To my knowledge, a conventional explosion is unlikely to unleash a nuclear explosion. But it does remind us the Islamists are likely to continue to get whatever weapons they need from us -- nuclear devices, plutonium, smallpox, you name it.
35 posted on 11/15/2002 7:39:17 PM PST by Man of the Right
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To: Poohbah
Yep...

He'd have done alot of landscaping, removed the perimeter fence and swept the ground clean but he wouldnt have put a dent in that bunker.

Al Qaeda...home of the rocket scientists.
36 posted on 11/15/2002 7:48:56 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: rintense
Haha
37 posted on 11/15/2002 7:49:47 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Man of the Right
To my knowledge, a conventional explosion is unlikely to unleash a nuclear explosion.

It's damn near impossible. To achieve critical mass, you need a perfect spherical wave and the detonators have to be triggered in a specific sequence. Even if you managed to set off the conventional explosive trigger with an kind of shock, it will simply destroy itself.

It would make a mess, but the most it would do is scatter around some plutonium.

38 posted on 11/15/2002 8:15:53 PM PST by justlurking
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To: VaBthang4
Seriously, I wonder if they make this stuff up.
39 posted on 11/15/2002 8:17:38 PM PST by rintense
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To: MadIvan
What a steaming load of BS. Those storage igloos must be what, 10" thick poiured concrete? Plus how do you get the explosive truck into the base?
40 posted on 11/15/2002 8:18:02 PM PST by finnman69
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