Roman Britons After 410

British Archaeology ^ | 12-2002 | Martin Henig

[Doctor Stochastic]

Of course the primary effect of Christianity on the British Isles was that it gave:

The English something to talk about.

The Welch something to sing about.

The Irish something to fight about.

The Scots something for nothing.

[Taft in '52]

According to legend, it was the Trojans, under the leadership of Brutus, who first colonized Great Britain in around 1074 BC. London was once known as New Troy. For more information, see http://www.write-on.co.uk/history/trojan_london.htm.

Go, Trojans! Beat the Hawkeyes!

[Polybius]

Depends on which Brits you mean. The Scots and Welsh (and Irish) are nearer akin to Basques than anyone else.

This includes my own roots in Galicia. Galicia is at the farthest northwest corner of Spain and was a Celtic region during Roman times. Thus it's Roman name "Gallaecia" meaning "Land of the Celts".

The genetic links between Galicians, Basques, Scots and Welsh suggest they were all part of the same initial edge of a demographic expansion towards Europe.

mtDNA analysis of the Galician population: a genetic edge of European variation---Eur J Hum Genet 1998 Jul-Aug;6(4):365-75

[Junior]

Another PHD dissertation by an "Arts Major."

And an extremely well-researched one at that.

[Junior]

Please add me. Thanks.

[jimtorr]

Please add me to your list. Is there a general History list, do you know?

[livius]

Fascinating post, blam! And a great explanation, Polybius.

[Sparta]

"Is there a general History list, do you know?"

There is no general history ping list, however there's my WCMH ping list and SAMWolf's American History ping list. We often ping each other and we are members of the other's ping list.

[David]

Blam: This is another of your excellant posts which is greatly appreciated.

I assume everyone is aware of Professor Geoffrey Ashe's analysis which concludes that the king, known to history as Rigothamus (a name which is really a quasi Latinized title), was Arthur. It is difficult to see Aurelius who has a firmly established historical record of his own most of which is inconsistent with what we do know of Arthur, as being the Arturian historical figure.

I don't know much of anything in the historical record that would support the attribution of the victory at Mount Baden to Aurelius--in fact, the attribution of Baden to Arthur is so established that if it could be demonstrated that Aurelius was there, that might well make Aurelius Arthur without more and it does not.

Ashe has encouraged loose thinking about Baden, and other battles in England by leaving open the prospect that Rigothamus was killed in France in 480; in fact, the historical record leaves open the prospect that discovery will demonstrate that after the defeat at Ageidus in which most of his troups and generals were killed, Rigothamus survivied, returned to Britney, and subsequently to Britten.

[strela]

Q: How do you separate the men from the boys in frae bonnie Scotland?

A: With a crowbar.

[jimtorr]

....after the defeat at Ageidus.......Rigothamus survivied, returned to Britney,.......

Whaaat? Rigothamus returned to Britney Spears to lick his wounds? :;)

Seriously though, I'm a bit weak on this portion of british history. Do you have a source I can look for?

[jimtorr]

Q: How do you separate the men from the boys in frae bonnie Scotland?

A: With a crowbar.

That won't work, if the crow has any uisge.

[curmudgeonII]

An interesting post [again].

[blam]

The English And Welsh Are Races Apart

[newguy357]

great post, thank you

[blam]

You are welcome.

[For the Unborn]

Thank you for the very interesting post! Merry Christmas!

[SunkenCiv]

Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution.

Please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.

Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

[SunkenCiv]

· join list or digest · view topics · view or post blog · bookmark · post a topic · subscribe ·
	Gods Graves Glyphs	Just updating the GGG info, not sending a general distribution. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
·Dogpile · Archaeologica · ArchaeoBlog · Archaeology · Biblical Archaeology Society · · Discover · Nat Geographic · Texas AM Anthro News · Yahoo Anthro & Archaeo · Google · · The Archaeology Channel · Excerpt, or Link only? · cgk's list of ping lists ·