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To err is human (49'ers v. Giants)
Personal | 12/07/02 | Blabs

Posted on 01/07/2003 9:53:14 AM PST by blabs

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My first post - let the controversy begin.

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1 posted on 01/07/2003 9:53:14 AM PST by blabs
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To: blabs
They definately screwed up. But just like Govt. employees, none of these incompetent dumb@sses will be fired or even reprimanded.
2 posted on 01/07/2003 9:55:06 AM PST by HELLRAISER II
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To: blabs
Good post.
3 posted on 01/07/2003 9:58:39 AM PST by ambrose (,)
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To: HELLRAISER II
What's most amazing is that the league actually admitted that a mistake was made.
4 posted on 01/07/2003 10:01:36 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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What's most amazing is that the league actually admitted that a mistake was made.

The admission was likely made only because a New York team came up on the short end.

5 posted on 01/07/2003 10:03:07 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: blabs
Go Jets!!

The Raiders are going to down those Jets, possibly with ease.

6 posted on 01/07/2003 10:03:35 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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How could an offensive player wearing #69 (or sixty-something) be eligible as a receiver unless he first reports to the referee as an "eligible receiver"? Since he did not officially report as such, he was NOT an eligible receiver, there was no interference.

Anyway, any team who played that badly should not be furthered in the playoffs. The Giants sucked, big time.

7 posted on 01/07/2003 10:04:15 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: blabs
These scenarios could include a blocked kick, a turnover, or a muffed snap. Since the first two really have no recourse, the only remaining scenario would be the muffed snap.

You must have missed some of the most unbelievable endings to overtime games in the last several years, including one earlier this season between Pittsburgh and Cleveland at Heinz Field. In that game, Pittsburgh lined up to kick the winning field goal in overtime on third down. Cleveland blocked the kick, but Pittsburgh recovered the ball behind the line of scrimmage (if it had gone beyond the line of scrimmage it would have been a "deflected" kick and therefore Cleveland's ball on the missed field goal) and then successfully won the game with a field goal on 4th down.

The Giants played an overtime game against Philadelphia a few years back, and a similar thing happened. The Giants blocked the winning field goal attempt, but Philadelphia recovered the ball in their own backfield and ran it into the end zone for a game-winning touchdown.

8 posted on 01/07/2003 10:07:44 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: NittanyLion
The admission was likely made only because a New York team came up on the short end.

Could be.

What few are talking about is the monumental mistake the Giants made by playing a soft zone defense through the last third of the game. The "prevent D" usually prevents only one thing - winning. The Giants rushed only 3 D-lineman during this time, and Garcia had all day to choose his receivers. Bad coaching, and Fassell should be fired.

9 posted on 01/07/2003 10:08:09 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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He did report as a receiver. Check the release from the NFL.
10 posted on 01/07/2003 10:08:47 AM PST by blabs
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I do not think that's quite fair. The Giants have never been the darlings of the league like the Cowboys or the Packers. As a matter of fact, the league has seemed to go out of its way NOT to seem biased for them.
11 posted on 01/07/2003 10:10:08 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Rye
What few are talking about is the monumental mistake the Giants made by playing a soft zone defense through the last third of the game. The "prevent D" usually prevents only one thing - winning. The Giants rushed only 3 D-lineman during this time, and Garcia had all day to choose his receivers. Bad coaching, and Fassell should be fired.

Yep. Garcia sat in the pocket and looked for whoever Sehorn was covering the entire 4th Quarter. The Giants would've been better off pressuring Garcia, even if it hurt their pass coverage game.

12 posted on 01/07/2003 10:10:20 AM PST by NittanyLion
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It's actually not unusual for this to happen.

The Giants were involved in an odd situation against the Dallas Cowboys back in the late 1980s. The Giants were awarded a safety on the opening kickoff when the Dallas kick returner muffed the kick in his own end zone and was tackled trying to run it out.

It turns out that Dallas should have had the ball on their 20 yard-line. A safety on a punt or kickoff only occurs if the returner muffs the kick outside the endzone and gets tackled inside the end zone.

Not only did the NFL announce after the game that a mistake had been made, but the entire team of off-field officials for that game was fired before the end of the day.

13 posted on 01/07/2003 10:11:51 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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No, They'll just issue a letter of apology, like the Big 12 has done twice before in regards to the dumbsh*t referee that called that pass interference penalty in OT.

You'd think that those corn eating hicks at the Big 12 would not allow that *sswipe to officiate in a National Championship game.
14 posted on 01/07/2003 10:12:39 AM PST by Guillermo
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To: Rye
I may be wrong about this, but I'm quite certain that the Giants were in their standard defense for almost the entire game. They rushed four linemen throughout.

The only thing that changed at the end was that they used their nickel defense because San Francisco was using a three-wideout set.

15 posted on 01/07/2003 10:13:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: TommyDale
How could an offensive player wearing #69 (or sixty-something) be eligible as a receiver unless he first reports to the referee as an "eligible receiver"? Since he did not officially report as such, he was NOT an eligible receiver, there was no interference.

According to reports that I've read, he reported to the ref before the game that he would be eligible on all field goal tries. I could be wrong but I thought he had to report before each play in which he would be eligible.

16 posted on 01/07/2003 10:15:31 AM PST by Bob
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Yep. Garcia sat in the pocket and looked for whoever Sehorn was covering the entire 4th Quarter. The Giants would've been better off pressuring Garcia, even if it hurt their pass coverage game.

Go back and look at the last quarter of the game this year between the Giants and Titans. I'm sure the 49ers did, which is why the end of that game in Sunday seemed like a flashback to most of us.

17 posted on 01/07/2003 10:15:47 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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The Giants have never been the darlings of the league like the Cowboys or the Packers. As a matter of fact, the league has seemed to go out of its way NOT to seem biased for them.

True enough - the Cowboys and Packers are certainly the league office favorites. I did notice, however, that the NFL declined to release the Divisional Championship lineups until after this past weekend's slate of games. I suspect this was done to insure both NY teams weren't in play on the same day. As best I can remember, Week 1 and 2 locations/times were always released prior to the start of the playoffs.

18 posted on 01/07/2003 10:15:48 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: blabs
Let’s agree on something. The referee is a player on the field. You may not believe this, but it’s true. Let me explain.

ok....if he's a player, who's side is he on?

19 posted on 01/07/2003 10:16:05 AM PST by adversarial
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To: Guillermo
Yea....look at these missed calls....



Missed call that would have led to OSU running the clock out 17-14.






20 posted on 01/07/2003 10:16:23 AM PST by smith288
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