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NFL Predictions - Playoff Thread
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 1-11-03 | Gerry Dulac

Posted on 01/11/2003 9:35:13 AM PST by doosee

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:34:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Steelers have lost eight of their past 10 meetings with Tennessee and were physically manhandled -- Bill Cowher's words -- by the Titans during the regular season.

And they are playing just six days after their emotional playoff victory against the Browns with a secondary that has injuries and other problems. No team had a better finish to the regular season than the Titans, who won 10 of their final 11 games after a 1-4 start. But the Steelers have never lost a playoff game to a division team (OK, the Titans qualify are a former division mate). After coming back from 11- and 17-point deficits in their past two games, they are not about to panic against the Titans. OK, the Steelers have yet to win a road playoff game under Cowher (0-2). But they seem to respond when nobody gives them a chance.


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KEYWORDS: 49ers; buccaneers; eagles; falcons; football; jets; nfl; oaklandfelons; raiders; shitsburghsquealers; steelers; suckaneers; titanicsdisasters; titans
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To: linuxnut
Well, If I had only predicted the NFC I would be perfect. Steelers and Jets let me down. As for the Jets (and I should include the Vikings in this), they constantly underachieve. Now I have learned my lesson,no more Jets predictions. Of course, Howard Cosell started off every season thinking the Jets would go all the way. Maybe Namath can come out of retirement..... He and the refs are the same age.....
901 posted on 01/13/2003 3:32:06 PM PST by doosee
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To: Pharmboy
I am not contesting whether your prediction was an original thought or not--I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Rather, I am commenting that your prediction wasn't anything unique or extraordinary---anybody can guess that a team that gave their all in a wild-card game might not have what it takes to beat a more talented, well-rested squad like the Buccaneers.

Again, your commentary can easily be flip-flopped and go the either way.... we can argue like this for days:
Look: I WAS right--we matched up very well against you guys, and it was clear in the first second half that you didn't have a chance. We ROLLED over you. Physically it was not a contest. Because of a complete mental lapse, you came back jumped out to an early lead in the second first half. It was a FLUKE. You did beat us mentally for a half, but football is a physical game--it ain't chess. We are the better team--no question. Just take a look at your piss-poor performance yesterday last Sunday (idiot retired special teams snapper... what a joke!). If I were a Whiner Little Giants fan, I'd be very very worried. As a GIANTS Niners fan, I look forward to next year.

902 posted on 01/13/2003 4:18:31 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)
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To: jpl; Mad_Tom_Rackham
>> made for many years TO GET THEM FIVE SUPERBOWL RINGS. Does your home favorite have five Superbowl rings? I thought so.

> Just so that you know, the 49ers aren't the only team in the NFL with five Super Bowl rings.

Was it stated that they were? I thought not.

Posted on 01/13/2003 4:28 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)

903 posted on 01/13/2003 4:28:35 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)
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To: panther33
Let's try this again...

904 posted on 01/13/2003 4:30 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)

904 posted on 01/13/2003 4:30:34 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)
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To: panther33
One last try...

905 posted on 01/13/2003 4:32 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)

905 posted on 01/13/2003 4:32:18 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)
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To: panther33
heh heh heh heh
906 posted on 01/13/2003 4:32:59 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)
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To: panther33
Are we still talking about Niners/Giants? They are soooooooo yesterday. ;-)
907 posted on 01/13/2003 4:35:59 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (The silver and black attack is back and nothing you can do to stop it boyyyyyyyyyy!)
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To: panther33
You made my case: original thoughts are unknown to you. (Changing Whiners to Giants in what I wrote is pathetic.)

If you agreed with me at the time, as a stand-up guy, you would have thanked me for congratulating you on the win and acknowledged the possibility that you VERY WELL might have left it all on that field and had nothing left for the Bucs. But you DID NOT. What I said was prescient (look it up) and on target. You did not acknowledge the congrats OR the prediction. So do not knock my on-the-money call of your team's pathetic attempt at football against the Bucs (and, I don't think that there is anyone in the US, Puerto Rico or Guam that thinks the GIANTS wouldn't have made a football game of it against the Bucs [even though we might have lost in the end--but you guys were PATHETIC].

I will be happy to bet you 100 American that we will go farther next year than you (and by that I mean in total standings if both teams do not make the playoffs or how far they go in the playoffs if both teams make it).

908 posted on 01/13/2003 7:12:10 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Sir, I could not agree more.

The only slight modification I would make, is that in a perfect world we would let Fassel prepare the team for a game (and even coach them in the first half) and then have another coach come in (call him the Gameday Coach) and lead the team after that.

909 posted on 01/13/2003 7:15:11 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Pharmboy
Aside from miserable coaching, I think what really killed the Giants this year is their (lack of) special teams play. ...And I mean ALL of it -- field goal kicking (including snapping and holding), punting, kickoffs, and especially their coverage. It seemed that the opposing team returned kickoffs to at least the 35 or 40 yrd line every single time, two or three first downs away from FG range. That puts immense pressure on a defense. That ST coach has to go, and they have to start searching for a decent kicking game immediately.

I'd imagine the personel they have on kick coverage is athletically adequate; they just don't know what they're doing out there. A competent ST coach would set it straight. Considering the number of close games the G-Men lost this year, I'd estimate that getting their ST in order would give them at least 3 more wins in the standings.

Speaking of incompetent fools who need firing, how about the NFL getting rid of these senior citizens officials who don't even know the basic rules. It destroys the intergrity of the game, as well as much of the enjoyment of watching.

910 posted on 01/13/2003 7:58:10 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: mlo
You are seriously underestimating the Raiders. There is a reason the spread is already 8 points.

B.S. Either the Titans or Raiders could win this. No one has a lock on it. The spreads are pointless. What was the spread on Miami vs. Ohio in the Fiesta bowl? 13 points favoring Miami? Who won that?

911 posted on 01/13/2003 8:10:12 PM PST by tdadams
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To: jpl
Just so that you know, the 49ers aren't the only team in the NFL with five Super Bowl rings.

I know. I was betting that Timesink wasn't from Dallas-Ft Worth. But I think my point is valid. What with all of the Niners bashing on this thread, and the Niners only have five Super Bowl victories (and a 100% winning percentage). Some of these FReepers were buggin me. :O)

912 posted on 01/13/2003 8:37:44 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Pharmboy
We are the better team--no question.

Don't the better teams usually win? Am I missing something?

913 posted on 01/13/2003 8:45:41 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: marajade
Pennington just took the entire blame for the loss... That's not right in my opinion... It wasn't his fault the media hyped him up so much that it made him out better then the league MVP himself...

Agreed. And that's the same New York media that over-hyped him and the Jets in the first place.

914 posted on 01/13/2003 8:56:02 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: mlo
[Lincoln Kennedy: "The Jets were a little upset, but we kinda expected that. I don't know what they were upset about. Maybe because the last time (a 26-20 loss here Dec. 2), they felt that they ran out of time in trying to make a comeback. Maybe they need to make an inquiry to the NFL to see if they can find an extra 12 minutes on the clock. Of course, the clock ran out on them this week as well." ]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I Love that quote!

915 posted on 01/13/2003 9:06:00 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: linuxnut
The Raiders are going to turn the Eagles into the Beagles.
916 posted on 01/13/2003 9:08:56 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: panther33
Was it stated that they were? I thought not.

No it wasn't sad, but it was implied. I was banking that Timesink didn't hail from Dallas.

917 posted on 01/13/2003 9:11:58 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Are we still talking about Niners/Giants? They are soooooooo yesterday. ;-)

Life has to go on.

918 posted on 01/13/2003 9:12:54 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Pharmboy
You made my case: original thoughts are unknown to you. (Changing Whiners to Giants in what I wrote is pathetic.)

I was not attempting to create an original thought/argument. I was attempting to clearly show the one major flaw of your "argument": by only changing a few words here and there, one could defend his team quite easily without saying anything relevant.

If you agreed with me at the time, as a stand-up guy, you would have thanked me for congratulating you on the win and acknowledged the possibility that you VERY WELL might have left it all on that field and had nothing left for the Bucs. But you DID NOT. What I said was prescient (look it up) [I looked it up the first time you said it, in a previous post] and on target. You did not acknowledge the congrats OR the prediction.

It was very nice of you to congratulate me on my team's win. Being somewhat new to FR, I suppose, is the only reason why I did not realize that I should properly acknowlege every compliment that comes my way. As far as the prediction, I honestly think that it didn't take much to prophesize a possible Niners defeat due to "leaving it all on the field" on the Giants game.

BTW, my trusty Fresno Bee came through. On the top of page D4 of the January 6, 2003 sports section, Dave Goldberg of the Associated Press looks at the divisional matchups. This is straight from the text:

San Francisco (12-5) at Tampa Bay (12-4):
It's hard to see the 49ers getting enough energy and emotion back to test the bruising Buccaneers defense after all they used in the crazy comeback against the Giants.
But there's also no sure thing in the league this season--as was proven in three of the four games this weekend.
As Jeff Garcia showed against the Giants, he can drive any defense crazy by slipping in and out of the pocket, scrambling and finding open receivers.
Tampa Bay is rested and should have Brad Johnson back at quarterback.
The Buccaneers will need him, even against the 49ers as alternate choices Rob Johnson and Shaun King typically equate to no offense. <<END OF PREVIEW>> (I rest my case)

So do not knock my on-the-money call of your team's pathetic attempt at football against the Bucs (and, I don't think that there is anyone in the US, Puerto Rico or Guam that thinks the GIANTS wouldn't have made a football game of it against the Bucs [even though we might have lost in the end--but you guys were PATHETIC].

See my response above to your last statement for the first part of your sentence... now as far as the Lil' Giants making it a game: the "what-ifs" can go on forever. We earned the right to play Tampa Bay and its top-ranked defensive unit. You didn't. Period, end of story, adios.

I will be happy to bet you 100 American that we will go farther next year than you (and by that I mean in total standings if both teams do not make the playoffs or how far they go in the playoffs if both teams make it).

In fairness to both of us, I would respectfully submit that this wager be placed at the end of the preseason, when both of us have been able to weigh our respective teams' offseason successes/losses (i.e., knowing which coach we have might be helpful). Fair?

919 posted on 01/13/2003 10:04:50 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
ROFLMAO
920 posted on 01/13/2003 10:05:57 PM PST by panther33 (Whose Tag Line Is It Anyway?)
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