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CA: Davis makes plea for federal funds
SJ Mercury News ^ | 1/15/03 | Jim Puzzanghera

Posted on 01/15/2003 9:50:59 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:09 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - Gov. Gray Davis pressed Washington on Tuesday for federal money to plug California's record budget gap, saying the state and others are ``being shortchanged'' by shouldering increased costs for Medicaid and domestic security.

The governor, joined by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, also complained that eliminating the tax on stock dividends -- the centerpiece of President Bush's $674 billion economic-stimulus plan -- would drain $1 billion to $1.5 billion from California's coffers unless the state figures out a way to tax dividends separately.


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KEYWORDS: begs; davis; federalfunds; growupdufus; pelosi; plea
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1 posted on 01/15/2003 9:51:00 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Kalifornistan should institute an immediate 100% income tax on dividends. That should take care of the budget problem!
2 posted on 01/15/2003 9:54:03 AM PST by coloradan
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To: NormsRevenge
I picture this phone conversation where Gray Davis calls President Bush and begs him to help California out of its hole. To which the President tartly replies: "Governor, I'd like to help but we have no money to spare and besides its a mess of your making. Your on your own to clean it up and I wish you the best of luck." Click.
3 posted on 01/15/2003 9:54:13 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: NormsRevenge
cut spending and eject illegals (and their associated cost burden) is the best plan I've heard
4 posted on 01/15/2003 9:57:01 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: NormsRevenge
Dear Gray,

No.

Yours truly,
The rest of the nation

5 posted on 01/15/2003 9:57:42 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
P.S.

Not just no....

But "HELL NO".

6 posted on 01/15/2003 10:04:12 AM PST by RabidBartender (Hi!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hey Gray, go ask your Hollywood Elite democRATs for a loan and quit whining.
7 posted on 01/15/2003 10:13:49 AM PST by soycd
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To: NormsRevenge
From the article: '...shouldering increased costs for Medicaid and domestic security."

While they request billions of dollars from the federal government for "security" they also outlaw the rifles the people need to make themselves secure. Five of my rifles now reside in Nevada. Perhaps Davis could just repeal the unConstitutional "assault weapons" law and restore my rights instead of hiring policemen to tyrannize me in the name of security.

8 posted on 01/15/2003 10:18:27 AM PST by William Tell
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To: RabidBartender
....let him sink in his own sloth!!!!
9 posted on 01/15/2003 10:30:20 AM PST by GrandMoM
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe Gov. Davis could reduce some of his costs by withdrawing some of the incentives for illegal aliens to come here. No need to build new schools with the accompanied benefit of reduced class size for our American students, hospitals may not go broke, elimination of governments staff due to lesser case loads and it just goes on and on.

All you pubbies that moaned and groaned when Simon lost to this clown should be happy that a Dem will be office and not a pub when this state comes to a screeching halt. I'm not happy that it is happening, it is sad. But it is inevitable! And yes, I will be one of the Californians that will be paying the price for this train wreck!
10 posted on 01/15/2003 10:33:56 AM PST by navyblue
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To: NormsRevenge
Ah, don't you just love the smell of politics in the morning!
11 posted on 01/15/2003 10:38:28 AM PST by Robert357
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To: NormsRevenge
MEMO FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

TO: Governor Gray Davis

FM: President George W. Bush

RE: Request for Federal bailout funds

DT: 15 January 2003

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! But seriously, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

12 posted on 01/15/2003 10:38:58 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: NormsRevenge
Someone should remind Dinkhead Davis that the budget shortfall had little to do with 9/11 and everything to do with his expensive, silly programs.

He's setting our President up to take the blame for the massive deficit California brought on itself, courtesy of the California Democrats.

When the President says "No" to Gray-Out, expect Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein & co. to start hammering in the media about California's economy (even with the Federal tax cut, the State will make it so that there is no difference in the amount of gov't taxes paid for by Californians) and laying it at our President's feet.

Conservatives need to counter the California economic issue HARD, NATIONALLY AND ASAP!
13 posted on 01/15/2003 10:47:15 AM PST by sf4dubya
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To: Robert357
LOL.. Manure and Politics in Sacramento .. It's hard to tell the difference these days.

It's sad to see that "we together" have sunk so low. I just hope Nevada doesn't close their borders for at least another 5 years.
14 posted on 01/15/2003 10:57:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Donate or Become a Monthly Member Now .. Lurk as ye may .. Post as ye might)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is a function that should be covered by federal funds.''

There are no federal funds. There are only taxe dollars stolen from US citizens.

Likewise, when are these morons going to realize that state governments are a drag on the state's economies and need to be trimmed down royally.

15 posted on 01/15/2003 10:57:12 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: NormsRevenge
It was only a matter of time. Davis said in his inaugural address that the budget crisis "was not his fault"!!! Bush giveth and Davis taketh away.
16 posted on 01/15/2003 11:01:14 AM PST by aught-6
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To: NormsRevenge
Email from Tom McClintock, Republican who lost the race for Controller by a few thousand votes. He was also the most conservative candidate running for any State wide office. Puts it all into perspective.

The Dimensions of the Disaster: 21-28-36

January 8, 2003 • Speech by Senator Tom McClintock

Three numbers tell the entire story of California's fiscal meltdown: 21, 28 and 36. Understand them and you will have transformed the Byzantine mysteries of the state budget into precise mathematical order.

In the last four years, population and inflation have grown at a combined rate of 21 percent. California general fund revenues have grown 28 percent. General fund spending has grown 36 percent.

The spending lobby insists that California got into its budget mess by irresponsibly slashing car taxes, thus leaving the treasury dangerously vulnerable when the recession struck and state revenues plummeted. Without offering such specifics, Gov. Gray Davis on Monday flatly said the state wasn't responsible for the red ink.

The facts paint a quite different picture. Even after taxes were cut and after the economic bubble burst, general fund revenues have still outpaced combined population and inflation growth by fully one-third during this administration. Obviously, California isn't suffering a revenue problem.

What it has suffered is a monumental spending problem: growing 36 percent in four years.

Not that we've seen a 36 percent increase in highway or school construction or water storage or electricity generation or anything else that government is responsible for providing. We've paid for it. We just haven't gotten it.

What we have gotten is a 38 percent increase in state payroll costs, a 38 percent increase in health and welfare spending (even though the welfare caseload is down 20 percent), and a 16 percent increase in prison costs (even though the prison population is down 0.6 percent).

In fairness, local government assistance has increased to replace lost vehicle-licensee fee revenues (even while local property tax collections have ballooned).

Yet even ignoring these subventions, state spending has still streaked nine points ahead of inflation and population.

According to Democratic Assembly Speaker Herb Wesson, "If we fired every state employee—I mean every Highway Patrol officer, every UC professor, every parks patrol officer—we would still be more than $6 billion short."

That's one way to look at it.

Here's another: If spending had merely kept pace with combined inflation and population growth, today's budget would still be a hefty 21 percent bigger than it was four years ago. But instead of an expected $35 billion deficit, we would today have a $5 billion surplus.

Or another: If the current year's budget was reduced just 9.5 percent across the board starting now and held there for 18 months, the entire deficit would disappear.

That would require deferring some pay raises, postponing some projects, eliminating duplication, (combining the Franchise Tax Board with the Board of Equalization, for example), selling surplus property—the same sort of things that any family would do in similar circumstances.

But of course, most families wouldn't have gotten themselves into this fix. Most families would have told you that if you spend every dime that comes in during the good years, you're going to be in big trouble in a bad year.

And that's where California is today. But instead of dealing forthrightly with the problem, California's officials will raise taxes. We already hear the ransom demand: a dollar of taxes for a dollar of cuts. If that happens, an average California family doing its best to cope with a serious recession will feel its tax bill hiked $1,800 to continue the state's spending binge.

The next time you hear that California's fiscal problems were unavoidable, or that it has already cut to the bone, or that it can't deal with the problem without some "revenue enhancements," remember how to measure a prodigal state: 21 percent increase in inflation and population; 28 percent increase in revenues; 36 percent increase in spending.

Ronald Reagan liked to say that "facts are stubborn things." And those are the stubborn facts.

If you have any difficulties with the McClintock E-Team, please e-mail us at eteam@tommcclintock.com. Thank you for your support of Tom McClintock for Controller!

17 posted on 01/15/2003 11:03:02 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: NormsRevenge
They voted democrat, stop begging for others to underwrite their socialism. The begging is unseemly for the worlds fifth largest economy.
18 posted on 01/15/2003 11:07:02 AM PST by cynicom
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To: William Tell
Gray Davis could arm the masses, and then sell there service to the highest bidder.
19 posted on 01/15/2003 11:21:32 AM PST by earplug
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To: Plutarch
Thank You, Sir! Tom deserves our support. He has been fighting the scheming socialzits in Sac for years.
20 posted on 01/15/2003 11:23:40 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Donate or Become a Monthly Member Now .. Lurk as ye may .. Post as ye might)
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To: NormsRevenge
If the federal govt helps them now, what's to say they won't come back in 5 years asking for even more help. Or why shouldn't every state go to the well looking for an easy way out of their problems. Each state has their own budget, let them fix their problems. After which, the feds can go calling on them to help other states fix their problems.
21 posted on 01/15/2003 11:28:36 AM PST by A Cyrenian
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To: NormsRevenge
Californians continue to elect liberals. They shouldn't ask Washington to transfer our income to them to subsidize their choices.
22 posted on 01/15/2003 11:29:11 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: cynicom
The begging is unseemly for the worlds fifth largest economy.

Old news. Davis has managed to make Califoria's economy the seventh largest in the world. We should be down around Uganda by the time he's done.

23 posted on 01/15/2003 11:35:23 AM PST by socal_parrot (The beaches are still nice though.)
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To: socal_parrot
Fading fast???? Who will be left to support the system??? I saw other day they expect another 5 million Mexicans in two years or so. Someone has to care for them.
24 posted on 01/15/2003 11:37:49 AM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Illegal immigration is more than just a California problem. It is spreading across the country, the largest rise is in the Midwest. The control of international borders lies soley with the Federal Government. They've done a very poor job and Californians, Arizonans and Texans have been supporting them for years.
25 posted on 01/15/2003 11:45:16 AM PST by socal_parrot (Coming to a neighborhood near you!)
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To: lady lawyer
Significant cash from the federal government could help offset $20.7 billion in proposed budget cuts or $8.3 billion in tax increases.

And we know that if the feds gave CA some cash they would use it to prop up their spending. Note that they say that it could "offset" tax increases. This is crap. The tax increases are the first thing on the table for the legislature. If CA got $29.1 billion from the feds tomorrow, the spending would not be cut and the tax increase would still be proposed. This state is a one party state and is heading towards bankruptcy. And yes, ladylawyer, we keep electing liberals. Amazing what universal suffrage (including illegal aliens) will do.

26 posted on 01/15/2003 11:50:15 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: cynicom
I'm sure that the national government of Aztlan has a fine support system planned for them.
27 posted on 01/15/2003 11:51:36 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: NormsRevenge
What a crock.
28 posted on 01/15/2003 11:53:20 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: NormsRevenge
Gray Davis and his Dims spent the California surplus like drunken sailors on liberty, and now they think a Republican President and Congress will bail them out? Somebody flushing the leftovers of a drug lab into the Sacramento water supply?

Reminds me of the '70's: Bush to California, Drop Dead!

29 posted on 01/15/2003 11:54:48 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: RabidBartender; Dog Gone
P.S. Not just no.... But "HELL NO".

You be nice or we'll bury you with all our fruits and nuts.

30 posted on 01/15/2003 11:57:09 AM PST by tubebender (I gave at the secure server...)
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To: socal_parrot
socal...

NC has the fastest growing Mexican population in the country, percentage wise. We are being inundated.

31 posted on 01/15/2003 12:07:14 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Plutarch
My last act in CA before hitting the road to parts back east was to vote early electronically at the Mall. Glad to say I voted for Mr. McClintock and the other Pubbies, and sorry ( but not surprised) to see the train of events since.

Too bad we don't still tar and feather politicos and run them out on a rail.

Davis deserves no less. His first back-of-the-hand to Californians was his refusal to resolve Prop 187 in the courts.

32 posted on 01/15/2003 12:09:05 PM PST by happygrl
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To: tubebender
Yup, plenty of nuts and fruits to spare. A real BUMPer crop.
33 posted on 01/15/2003 12:09:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Have You Hugged Your Life Savings Today? Donate or Become a Monthly Member Now)
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To: NormsRevenge
Dear Gray,

I didn't win your state and you never elect Republican Senators anymore. Why should we give you any cash?

Signed
The Executive Branch and the Republican Legislative Majority

PS: Sod off
34 posted on 01/15/2003 12:11:27 PM PST by hattend ("I have a cunning plan" - Baldrick)
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To: NormsRevenge
So the elderly Italian was attending night classes at the local high school to prepare for his citizenship test. One night they were studying Geography and the teacher asked him to identify the location of Minneapolis. He stood, faced the class and announced where Minneapolis could be found! "Uppa US"!

Now everyone..when Grayout askes for federal aid everyone say, "Minneapolis!"

35 posted on 01/15/2003 12:14:06 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: NormsRevenge
You should be listening to Michael Medved right now. He has a Caltrans lacky named Richard from So Cal on the phone and this guy sounds like a rabid Karl Marx.
36 posted on 01/15/2003 12:31:42 PM PST by tubebender (I gave at the secure server...)
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To: cynicom
NC has the fastest growing Mexican population in the country, percentage wise. We are being inundated.


And we here in California tried to raise awareness of this for years and nobody would pay any attention to us or thought we were all just nuts! Well, it is real and you honestly have our sympathies. Now join in and try to wake up the rest of the people as to what is happening here!
37 posted on 01/15/2003 12:41:03 PM PST by navyblue
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To: coloradan
"Kalifornistan"...that is priceless.
My favorite Cali-ism yet.
38 posted on 01/15/2003 12:43:08 PM PST by ottersnot
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To: NormsRevenge
As a resident of Florida let me say that here in my own state we have our own problems and I resent N.Y. and Calif.
overspending on every conceivable liberal giveaway program
then thinking I should come to their aid via federal taxing.
I don't really give a damn what happens in Calif or N.Y. or these other bastions of liberalism as long as they don't take my hard earnd money to fund it.
Mr. Bush and all republicans I warn you not to give Grey a dime or I will forever hound your political butts.
39 posted on 01/15/2003 1:01:04 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: navyblue
I am new here in NC. The locals pretend there is no ongoing change. They do not even discuss it. In the stores and restaurants, you hear Spanish, ebonics and some English. I seem to be in a strange land, if not a foreign land.
40 posted on 01/15/2003 2:18:59 PM PST by cynicom
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To: NormsRevenge
If the SOB is lying about the size of the deficit, which the non partisan legislative analyst says he is, then how can he possibly know how much, if any, Federal aid is required to fill in the money pit he dug for himself?
41 posted on 01/15/2003 6:44:56 PM PST by sailor4321
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To: cynicom
They voted democrat, stop begging for others to underwrite their socialism.

I will joyously tell the smarmy Leftists that dominate this area of California just that.

If any one liberal complains about anything in this state I'm gonna tell 'em get a hold of the law firm Ben, Dover and Smile...

42 posted on 01/15/2003 8:01:53 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
The governor, joined by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, also complained that eliminating the tax on stock dividends -- the centerpiece of President Bush's $674 billion economic-stimulus plan -- would drain $1 billion to $1.5 billion from California's coffers unless the state figures out a way to tax dividends separately.

NOT IF THEY DRILL FOR OIL OFF THE CALIFORNIA COAST !!!

43 posted on 01/15/2003 8:04:07 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: goldstategop; Carry_Okie
From the article:
The governor, joined by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, also complained that eliminating the tax on stock dividends -- the centerpiece of President Bush's $674 billion economic-stimulus plan -- would drain $1 billion to $1.5 billion from California's coffers unless the state figures out a way to tax dividends separately.

Idea:

DRILL FOR OIL OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA !!!

44 posted on 01/15/2003 8:14:01 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: sailor4321
...then how can he possibly know how much, if any, Federal aid is required to fill in the money pit he dug for himself?

He (Davis) could fill it with oil. Yes, oil.

Offshore oil drilling would fill that hole...

45 posted on 01/15/2003 8:21:17 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Just where is this Federal money going to magically appear from? Democrats! Just keep taking from the till. It somehow replenishes itself.
46 posted on 01/15/2003 8:25:02 PM PST by Rocky
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To: soycd
Maybe Rob Reiner can pick up the tab.einer
47 posted on 01/15/2003 8:57:46 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Dog Gone
Dear Gray,

No.

Yours truly,
The rest of the nation

You do realize that California exports enough in Federal taxes to wipe out that deficit?

Maybe "The rest of the nation" has been sucking a California teat for long enough?

48 posted on 01/15/2003 9:07:46 PM PST by Carry_Okie (With friends like these, who needs friends?)
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To: Plutarch
He was a great candidate. The GOP screwed him.
49 posted on 01/15/2003 9:09:35 PM PST by Carry_Okie (With friends like these, who needs friends?)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Offshore oil drilling would fill that hole...

And then some.

Not only that, but it would reduce the static pressure that induces seepage. Oil has been leaking from the seabed along the California for time immemorial. The Chumash indians used it to seal their boats. Cabrillo described the rocks on the coast as black with it.

Drilling for oil in this case would reduce the fouling of tidepools and beaches. It is the environmentally sound thing to do.

50 posted on 01/15/2003 9:14:12 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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