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Safety chiefs target German craze for 'bazooka' spud guns (HOLD MEIN BIER!)
The Times ^ | January 29, 2003 | Allan Hall

Posted on 01/28/2003 3:20:37 PM PST by MadIvan

GERMAN youths have taken up a dangerous new pastime: firing potatoes as fast as a rocket from “bazookas” made from drainage pipes.

One man almost lost an eye, a woman had her leg broken and one teenager was badly burnt when the hairspray used as the propellant exploded in his face as he prepared to fire.

A 16-year-old in the university city of Göttingen lost part of his ear when the firing chamber ripped open as he pulled the trigger.

The so-called Kartoffelkanone are made from piping and masking tape bought at any hardware store. With a range of 200 metres they could split a man’s head at 15 metres and penetrate a wooden wall at 90 metres.

The guns are not governed by the usual strict firearms regulations in Germany, but prosecutors in the republic’s 16 states are passing emergency rulings to try to outlaw them.

Horst Przbyla, a munitions expert for police in Brandenburg near Berlin, said: “What started out as an extreme form of paintball has become deadly dangerous. Certainly, anyone caught in the path of the projectiles can expect to sustain very serious injuries indeed. It can only be a matter of time until the first death.”

Police are considering asking leading hardware chains to sell piping only to adults.

Local stores that sell hairsprays and pressurised lighter fluid, the favourite propellants for the DIY weapons, may also be asked to sell them only to adults. Failing that, police suggest that youngsters should have to explain why they are buying them.

A website used by the Kartoffelkanone enthusiasts was receiving only 20 hits a day just three months ago: now there are more than 700.

German police fear that the youths will turn to more lethal ammunition than potatoes. Tests have shown that such a bazooka firing an empty film canister filled with sand and the cardboard centres of toilet rolls filled with cement could penetrate brickwork.

An apple fired from one of the guns almost took out the eye of a middle-aged man near the Baltic coast.

In Bavaria a 55-year-old woman suffered severe injuries when a potato smashed into her thigh as she walked near woodland with her dog. A school in Weinstadt in Baden-Württemberg recently came under a potato barrage from children playing truant, while in the Taunus region several windows of a block of flats were smashed.

The hairspray is ignited using a battery which provides a spark. Some youths have made multi-barrelled potato cannons, resembling the Soviet Katyusha rocket launchers of the Second World War and capable of firing at a phenomenal rate.

Thuringia in the east has imposed a ban on the guns and four youngsters in the town of Schlotheim caught by police had their weapons destroyed and were sentenced to 25 hours community service. Police also caught two teenagers with a cannon nearly 6ft long in one Rhineland town. A spokesman for the police in Brandenburg said: “Woodland on Sundays echoes to the thump-thump of these guns. It is a growing social problem that needs to be tackled.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; germany; gun; holdmuhbeer; launcher; outlaw; potato
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This is a good page for Anvil Firing.

It's not authentic ECV anvil firing, but it's good enough for beginners.

41 posted on 01/28/2003 4:27:07 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Charles Martel; MadIvan
Great. Some German kid's gonna mount that on a Volkswagen, call it a panzer, drive it to Paris, and take over France. You know how those French are, they see a German vehicle with a barrel sticking out and those hands just go up by reflex...

}:-)4
42 posted on 01/28/2003 4:28:56 PM PST by Moose4 (der Panzerkampfwagen VII Ausf A "Beetle")
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To: tet68
You want to be cautious about selecting some brands of window putty. Some of the denser plastic mixtures of window putty can practically turn into plasma on firing, and splatter onlookers with bits of napalm.

Better to use old worn out playing cards.

43 posted on 01/28/2003 4:29:35 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Moose4
What a bunch of Cheese eating surrender monkeys!!!
44 posted on 01/28/2003 4:31:27 PM PST by mylife
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To: HiTech RedNeck
booiinngg
45 posted on 01/28/2003 4:38:58 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Charles Martel
No, no, no... THIS is a spud gun...


Ah, the good ole days...


Check this out

46 posted on 01/28/2003 4:39:19 PM PST by LayoutGuru2
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To: capitan_refugio
...one teenager was badly burnt when the hairspray used as the propellant exploded in his face as he prepared to fire.

Definitely time to do something about that deadly hair spray. What does the inimitable G.D. (your governor ;>) have to say about this critical issue? Do we ban hair spray, or simply tax it?

47 posted on 01/28/2003 4:43:59 PM PST by Who is John Galt?
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To: MadIvan
5 day waiting period on potatoes?
48 posted on 01/28/2003 4:55:31 PM PST by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: Charles Martel
Mine has a solinoid valve actuated firing mechinism, all shedual 80 P22, I have it tied into the starting air compressor from a peaking gas turbine, I can put a Frozen potato out to Deer Island from Southie, 75 mm.
49 posted on 01/28/2003 4:56:30 PM PST by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R. is a commie front!!!!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Some folks like to do away with the bottom anvil and use a
3 or 4" thick plate with a kind of hollow that the base of the anvil sits down in, this type of mortar base can send them up several hundred feet. I mean just a tiny dot in the sky!

We don't do that just a good boom.

Spectators are urged to keep WELL back!

This pastime has even led to a split in the blacksmiths
organizations as some of the west coast leadership
decried the practice as too dangerous to perform and
so many chapters have split off to continue the traditions
of our past.
50 posted on 01/28/2003 4:59:49 PM PST by tet68
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To: Thud
but they couldn't pinpoint its location and thought it was a much bigger UFO some distance away.

Radar, at leas any made since WW-II, doesn't work that way. Range is the second most fundamental measurement one gets. Now pulse doppler radars, operating at medium or high PRF can get confused about the range. However ground based radars work differently, and more simply, they aren't going to mess up the range. The "size", or radar cross section, of the target is usually not even displayed anymore, although it is of course the main factor in determining how far away the radar can "see" the target.

51 posted on 01/28/2003 5:22:40 PM PST by El Gato
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To: tet68
Spuds are for duds. Real men chuck pumpkins.


52 posted on 01/28/2003 5:26:34 PM PST by coloradan
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To: tet68
Note. There was a time when small towns OWNED cannon, but that was long ago in a land far away.

There was a time when individuals owned them, and I mean modern canon, the same type as used by the US Army or Navy, or maybe even better than those, not some (reproduction of) an 100+ year old antique. I think that must have been right at the end of the Dark Ages.

53 posted on 01/28/2003 5:27:24 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
But it worked the one time I tried it about thirty years ago. They got really excited, which doesn't sound like they knew it was an itty bitty puppy floating a few hundred feet up just off the end of the runway.
54 posted on 01/28/2003 5:28:09 PM PST by Thud
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Luckily I am only 25% German! Otherwise I'd probably be in trouble. 'Course my 25% Irish seems to take care of that.

Seriesly tho, that is a cool gun.
55 posted on 01/28/2003 5:31:21 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: discostu
Hey, maybe they'll make it an Olympic event too.
56 posted on 01/28/2003 5:36:39 PM PST by virgil
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Come on up to the Homecoming at the Museum of Appalachia. We'll show you anvil shooting. This web page has a picture, and a good description of it - this is about ten miles up the road from where I live.


http://www.museumofappalachia.com/July_4th.htm
57 posted on 01/28/2003 5:54:04 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: MadIvan

It ist just a little hobbie. Eferyone relax.

58 posted on 01/28/2003 6:36:46 PM PST by dagnabbit
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Just flying a conventional diamond kite with the skeleton covered with foil should have a similar effect I would think

But you have to stay with a kite which does not seem wise.

59 posted on 01/28/2003 6:50:21 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Shooting anvils! Sassafras tea! Must drive the safety and health nannies crazy.
60 posted on 01/28/2003 8:06:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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