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Give Minority Youngsters a Lousy Education and Then Admit Them to College By Quotas
Capitalism Magazine ^ | 2.9.03 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 02/09/2003 12:15:00 PM PST by Enemy Of The State

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To: Jim Noble
As near as I can tell, I accounted for your concern in step 1.
21 posted on 02/09/2003 1:07:52 PM PST by xzins (Games of chance)
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To: janetgreen
Yeah, my thought exactly.
22 posted on 02/09/2003 1:09:10 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Forty years ago my dad went to a black dentist.
These were the days before affirmative action.
I was a youngster and curious, so I asked, "Why do you go to a black dentist?".
His reply has stayed with me ever since.
He replied, "for a black man to become a dentist means that he must be better than any white dentist, and I want the best!"
It took me a few more years to understand his reasoning, but the civil rights movement opened my eyes to the institutional bigotry and discrimination that was prevalent before those days.
Everything is just reversed today.
Now you have to wonder if a black professional reached his position by his own talents or was handed an extra 20 points because of his complexion.
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I, for one, couldn't agree more. The best MD I ever had was when my husband was active duty AF. The fellow was a black, pre-AA, military MD. Alas, all too shortly thereafter he retired from the AF, and went into private practice somewhere out of state. He's probably is making a million $$ a year...and, God bless him, he's worth every penny of it.

But like you said, things are now reversed. From bitter experience I now avoid younger (than, say 40) minority and/or female "health care providers" like the plague. I mean, holy mackeral!

The MDs I seek out now are asian-American males. B/c like your father's dentist 40 years ago it means he must be better -- a lot better-- than those others.

23 posted on 02/09/2003 1:32:29 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it, but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Enemy Of The State
Universities are cash flow factories for professors and staff. The idea is to get as many paying customers as you can. It isn't any different than other businesses in our fine land. After the customer pays a lot of money, you gotta give them some kind of degree as long as they try hard. Universities can't survive on catering to just merit scholars.
24 posted on 02/09/2003 2:22:26 PM PST by EVO X
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To: Jim Noble
Secondly, it is wrong to demand a personalized benefit ("having x chance of getting in"). If you are qualified, you do have "x" chance of getting in. If you aren't, you have "y" chance of getting in.

The problem is deciding who is "qualified". There's no one standard. SATS, grades, class rankings, essays, all have different meanings. And most schools do want to have successful athletic programs, whuch means they need some leeway for athletes.

I'd really like to see the decisions made by a board that doesn't know the name, sex or race of the applicant. Then it really wouldn't matter how much influence they gave to each factor.

25 posted on 02/09/2003 3:03:09 PM PST by speekinout
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To: janetgreen
Like something right out of the Communist Manifesto?

Or Gramsci's notebooks.

26 posted on 02/09/2003 3:32:18 PM PST by wizardoz (Bomb Hollywood!)
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To: Enemy Of The State
I would say that about says it.
27 posted on 02/09/2003 7:10:43 PM PST by freekitty
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28 posted on 02/09/2003 11:09:02 PM PST by Cacique (Censored by Admin Moderator)
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To: Enemy Of The State
Sowell bttt
29 posted on 02/10/2003 8:42:22 AM PST by lodwick
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30 posted on 02/10/2003 10:41:46 AM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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Thomas Sowell tellin' the truth alert!!!!

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31 posted on 02/10/2003 10:42:40 AM PST by mhking ("The home team Iraqis have won the toss and elected to receive...")
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32 posted on 02/10/2003 10:45:31 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: yankeedame
But like you said, things are now reversed. From bitter experience I now avoid younger (than, say 40) minority and/or female "health care providers" like the plague. I mean, holy mackeral!

I'm not blaming you for your reactions, but what is shameful is that fully deserving minority individuals are painted with the same brush. I've told this story here before, but it won't hurt to tell it again.

I sat on a selection panel to for an important position. Far and away the best candidate for the position was a black woman. Better qualifications, better interview, better references. She won the selection in a rout.

Those that weren't selected naturally started a whispering campaign that she was a "quota hire." Nothing could be further from the truth. She would have won that position if she had been green with purple polkadots.

Through her work, she did earn the respect of everyone on the team assigned to the project, but the default impression a newcomer came in with was that she didn't honestly deserve her job.

My cheeks burn when I think of some of the comments I heard about her from those who hadn't worked with her. And, yes, I did what I could to set the record straight.

33 posted on 02/10/2003 11:14:40 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: Enemy Of The State
Thank God Thomas Sowell is black.
He'd be crucified for saying this, otherwise.
34 posted on 02/10/2003 12:28:11 PM PST by demosthenes the elder (gotta remember to turn this off)
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