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CANADIAN court agrees that BIBLE is HATE LITERATURE
CWNews.com ^ | 2-11-2003 | staff

Posted on 02/13/2003 6:56:57 AM PST by Notwithstanding

In a ruling given virtually no media coverage, the Court of Queen's Bench in Saskatchewan, ruled that a man who placed references to Bible verses on homosexuality into a newspaper ad was guilty of inciting hatred. The December 11, 2002 decision was in response to an appeal of a 2001 Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission (HRC) ruling which ordered both the Saskatoon StarPhoenix newspaper and Hugh Owens of Regina to pay CAN$1,500 to three homosexual activists for publishing an ad in the Saskatoon newspaper quoting Bible verses regarding homosexuality.

The purpose of the ad was to indicate that the Bible says no to homosexual behavior. The advertisement displayed references to four Bible passages: Romans 1, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, on the left side. An equal sign (=) was situated in the middle, with a symbol on the right side. The symbol was comprised of two males holding hands with the universal symbol of a red circle with a diagonal bar superimposed over top.

Justice J. Barclay rejected the appeal ruling: "In my view, the Board was correct in concluding that the advertisement can objectively be seen as exposing homosexuals to hatred or ridicule. When the use of the circle and slash is combined with the passages of the Bible, it exposes homosexuals to detestation, vilification and disgrace. In other words, the Biblical passage which suggests that if a man lies with a man they must be put to death exposes homosexuals to hatred."

Janet Epp Buckingham, Legal Counsel for the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada, told LifeSite: "The ruling that a verse from the Bible can be considered to expose homosexuals to hatred shows the danger for Scripture if Bill C-250 passes." Bill C-250, proposed by homosexual activist MP Svend Robinson, would see "sexual orientation" added to hate crime law as a prohibited ground of discrimination.


TOPICS: Announcements; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bible; calhounsrats; canada; hatespeech; homosexualagenda; mediabias
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1 posted on 02/13/2003 6:56:57 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: AKA Elena; american colleen; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Aristophanes; ArrogantBustard; Askel5; ...
ping
2 posted on 02/13/2003 6:58:25 AM PST by Notwithstanding (Satan is real. So are his minions. Palpy is one of them.)
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To: Notwithstanding
Canada lacks the same rights of free speech and freedom of religion that we enjoy in these United States. Canada is governed by a liberal facist humanist theocracy. Those provinces which wish to be free should secede.
3 posted on 02/13/2003 7:01:48 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
Vive le Quebec libre!
4 posted on 02/13/2003 7:02:53 AM PST by eastsider
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To: Notwithstanding
I didn't realize that I read hate material on a daily basis.

Ooops. </sarcasm>
5 posted on 02/13/2003 7:04:26 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: Notwithstanding
I agree, the Bible is hate literature.

God hates sin, just ask the people of Sodom.

7 posted on 02/13/2003 7:07:19 AM PST by iron tongue
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To: Sangamon Kid; Luis Gonzalez
It didn't say anything about Islam being a cult! LOL
8 posted on 02/13/2003 7:08:05 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What the heck, I'll PING him myself.
9 posted on 02/13/2003 7:08:31 AM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Notwithstanding
He would have been better off publishing the quote without the editorial comment...It appears they mostly attacked the symbol rather than the Scripture.

Someone should test this court by placing an ad of the Bible quoted purely with no embellishment.

10 posted on 02/13/2003 7:12:25 AM PST by ez ("The course of this nation does not depend on the decision of others." GWB)
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To: McNoggin
CAN $1,500... what's that, like eighty bucks?

BA-DA-BING....LOL! A great one sentence editorial on the current state of all things Canadian.

13 posted on 02/13/2003 7:16:56 AM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Notwithstanding
O Canada.
14 posted on 02/13/2003 7:23:15 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: Notwithstanding
MP Svend Robinson

email = robinson.s@parl.gc.ca

First elected to the House of Commons in May 1979, Svend Robinson represents the federal constituency of Burnaby-Douglas, in the Greater Vancouver area of British Columbia, with a population of over 100,000. He was one of two New Democratic Party MPs elected from BC in the 2000 election, along with Vancouver East MP Libby Davies. When first elected, Svend was the youngest member of the federal New Democrat caucus, having been nominated at the age of 25. He is now the senior MP from British Columbia, one of the most senior MPs in the House, and has been elected and re-elected seven times.

Robinson grew up and attended school in Burnaby, graduating from Burnaby North. He went on to study science and law at the University of British Columbia (UBC) and did post-graduate studies in England at the London School of Economics. Svend was called to the BC Bar in September 1978. He was the first student elected to the UBC Board of Governors and the recipient of UBC's highest academic honour, the Sherwood Lett Memorial Scholarship. In 1970, Svend worked as a labourer-teacher with Frontier College, gold mining in northern Ontario. Robinson speaks English, French and Danish, and in 1990 was awarded the Ordre de la Pléiade in recognition of his support for la francophonie.

Robinson has been an active MP, in his riding, across the country and internationally. A strong advocate of human rights, he has served on many Parliamentary Committees including the historic Special Joint Committee on the Constitution in 1980-81, the 1985 Special Committee on Equality Rights, the Justice Committee, the Human Rights Committee, and the Foreign Affairs Committee. Svend was a member of the Canadian Committee for the 50th Anniversary of the United Nations in 1995, and is vice-chair of the Canada-Cuba Parliamentary Friendship Group. Svend is also an honourary member of Burnaby Scouts. He was named an honourary director of both the BC and Ottawa Civil Liberties Associations, and of Lawyers Against Apartheid. Svend was the first recipient of the Edith Adamson Award for Leadership in Issues of Conscience in 1995. In 2001 he was elected as Rapporteur of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly Committee on Human Rights and Democracy, and in 2002, was elected vice-chair. In 2002, he received the first National Kurdish Human Rights Award and became a Director of the Canada-Palestine Parliamentary Group. He was the first openly gay MP, having come out publicly in the spring of 1988, and has received many honours for his work for equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people. Svend believes in taking political leadership beyond Parliament, and has engaged in peaceful civil disobedience in support of aboriginal rights and environmental protection in Haida Gwaii (Queen Charlotte Islands) in 1985 and in Clayoquot Sound in 1993, which led in 1994 to a brief term of imprisonment. He was adopted into the Haida Nation in 1985. Svend worked with Sue Rodriguez in the dying with dignity movement, and continues to seek changes in these laws.

Robinson has been a New Democrat since the age of 14, and has held many posts in the BC and national party. In 1992 he was named an Honourary Life Member of the BC Young New Democrats. In 1995, Svend was a candidate for the national leadership of the New Democratic Party.

Currently, Robinson is federal NDP spokesperson on Foreign Affairs, International Human Rights and Trade and Globalisation. He is the longest serving member of the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee, and sub-committees on human rights and on international trade. Svend enjoys sea kayaking, hiking, cycling, travelling, and sharing his life with his partner Max Riveron when not immersed in politics.

16 posted on 02/13/2003 7:24:13 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: ez
"Someone should test this court by placing an ad of the Bible quoted purely with no embellishment."

Bingo!

17 posted on 02/13/2003 7:24:57 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Notwithstanding
Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality by DENNIS PRAGER
18 posted on 02/13/2003 7:26:14 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Sangamon Kid
Oh kid...one more thing:


19 posted on 02/13/2003 7:26:36 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: yendu bwam
Canada lacks the same rights of free speech and freedom of religion that we enjoy in these United States. Canada is governed by a liberal facist humanist theocracy. Those provinces which wish to be free should secede.

I agree that Canada shouldn't be allowed to censor thoughts (ironically, many religious fundamentalists do believe in state censorship.)

However, yes, the Old Testament is a horrible hate filled document. Some defend that saying it "hates sinners." But in doing so they admit their religion is hate based.

20 posted on 02/13/2003 7:27:46 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: TLBSHOW
Oh and Todd.

You are so immersed in hatred, that you couldn't bring yourself to post even a simple acknowledgement of the prayers and well-wishes I offered in your daughter's name on the thread where you let everyone know that she was ill.

You have become that which you accuse Islam of being.

Hateful, intolerant, and ignorant.

21 posted on 02/13/2003 7:30:14 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: jlogajan
I have travelled in Canada. They are extremely liberal, have no free speech rights and have sold out to the radical homosexual agenda.

Canada is on my boycott list, just like the European Axis of Weasels.
22 posted on 02/13/2003 7:30:44 AM PST by Gopher Broke
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To: Luis Gonzalez
It's like being a well-known gunslinger in the Old West....I'll bitch-slap you into nothingness.

Good morning, Louis! How are ya? I see you've come out with both barrels blazing!

23 posted on 02/13/2003 7:32:56 AM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: jlogajan
However, yes, the Old Testament is a horrible hate filled document. Some defend that saying it "hates sinners." But in doing so they admit their religion is hate based.

Part of the essence of the Old Testament is that God hates sins. On the issue of homosexuality, even after the appearance of Christ on this earth, and the further revelation of God's total love for us, the New Testament makes it quite clear that homosexuality is sinful and abhorrent to God. I know you don't believe that, jlogajan, but many people (including me) do. When one considers the average lives of homosexuals, with their incredible promiscuity, multiple venereal diseases, shortened lifespans, insane and disordered sexual acts (many of which involve the exchange of feces), someone like me can easily see why.

24 posted on 02/13/2003 7:34:49 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Gopher Broke
I have travelled in Canada. They are extremely liberal, have no free speech rights and have sold out to the radical homosexual agenda.

You're right, Gopher Broke. They are PC-sheeple, and they're to sheeplish to even know it. Among their ministers of government include a man who cheated on his wife with a teenage boy prostitute. They're in a vomitous state of affairs. - By the way - great Freep name!

25 posted on 02/13/2003 7:38:05 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
It's the French population's fault that Canada is so screwed up, they pretty much run the show up there. Why Canada didn't just let Quebec seperate is beyond me.
26 posted on 02/13/2003 7:40:45 AM PST by GoAhead-Make My Day
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To: jlogajan
But in doing so they admit their religion is hate based.

You are very confused, jlogajan, as is often the case when atheists like you seek to critique a religion that you do not understand. Christians believe that God loves everyone, that He calls everyone away from sin, and that He hates sins (which are all a rejection, in one form or another, of His love). Chrisitanity is a religion based on love - and more so than any other form of belief that exists. Christians do NOT believe that God hates anybody. Rather, they believe that God loves all, even to the extent of being willing to forgive any atrocity commited by a man (or woman), if such person is truly repentant. That is a indeed a loving God! God gives the choice of accepting that love to everyone. One who sins unrepentantly has refused God's love, and has chosen to hate God of his own accord.

27 posted on 02/13/2003 7:44:18 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: GoAhead-Make My Day
It's the French population's fault that Canada is so screwed up, they pretty much run the show up there. Why Canada didn't just let Quebec seperate is beyond me.

I wouldda thought that the Westerners and Northern Atlantics would have been overjoyed to see Quebec go (along with Ontario as well). Now it may be that they decide to leave of their own accord. They'd be better and freer for it.

28 posted on 02/13/2003 7:46:19 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Notwithstanding
A simple proof the judge is ignorant:

Leviticus 19:17 Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt.
29 posted on 02/13/2003 7:46:27 AM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: yendu bwam
Is it for us to judge and condemn?

Or should we forgive?
30 posted on 02/13/2003 7:46:40 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Notwithstanding
I always thought that the real reason for all hate-crimes legislation was to silence biblical condemnation of homosexuality and that any reference to hate crimes based on race was simply cover for the real agenda.
31 posted on 02/13/2003 7:49:37 AM PST by al_possum39
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To: Notwithstanding
Lavender Mafia strikes again. Tolerance of their perverted and filthy lifestyle is not enough. Thye demand endorsement, approbation and equality with heterosexual mariages.

(Maybe the ayatollahs are right about degenerate western democracies.)
32 posted on 02/13/2003 7:51:14 AM PST by ZULU (You)
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To: eastsider
Vive le Quebec libre!

Vive le Canada libre! Que ses citoyens redécouvrent leur liberté...

33 posted on 02/13/2003 7:51:44 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: ZULU
Thye demand endorsement, approbation and equality with heterosexual mariages.

as well as the opportunity to get close, very close, to your kids...

34 posted on 02/13/2003 7:54:30 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Oh kid...one more thing:

Hey now, don't get me wrong. I admire the "spirited" defense that you bring to the table, and that you can be counted on to take on all comers...both very admirable traits.

35 posted on 02/13/2003 8:10:55 AM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: yendu bwam
Is it for us to judge and condemn?

Or should we forgive?
36 posted on 02/13/2003 8:12:34 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Notwithstanding
This court would have made Pontius Pilate proud.
37 posted on 02/13/2003 8:14:57 AM PST by A2J (From my cold, dead hands...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Or should we forgive?

You can't when you hate. Lots of hate going on here.

38 posted on 02/13/2003 8:15:08 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: jlogajan
Leviticus 19:17
Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt.

Psalm 36:
1 An oracle is within my heart
concerning the sinfulness of the wicked:
There is no fear of God before his eyes.
2 For in his own eyes he flatters himself
too much to detect or hate his sin.
3 The words of his mouth are wicked and deceitful;
he has ceased to be wise and to do good.
39 posted on 02/13/2003 8:19:54 AM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Leviticus 19:17
Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt.
40 posted on 02/13/2003 8:25:13 AM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Is it for us to judge and condemn? Or should we forgive?

Christians should forgive any repentant sinner. That has nothing to do with Canada's government's taking people's freedoms away. Tyranny is a form of evil and should be fought.

41 posted on 02/13/2003 8:28:03 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: Snowyman; jlogajan
It's funny.

On threads where I try to point out that there is a whole lot of violence in The Bible to those people that are busy pointing out all the violence in the Koran, people claim that Christians believe in the New Testament, and that the Old Testament is about Judaism, not Christianity.

When it comes to homosexuality however, every Christian I know quotes the Old Testament extensively.
42 posted on 02/13/2003 8:28:20 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Snowyman
This is simply a Godless and wicked judge.
Psalm 50
16 But to the wicked, God says:
"What right have you to recite my laws
or take my covenant on your lips?
17 You hate my instruction
and cast my words behind you.
43 posted on 02/13/2003 8:31:08 AM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: yendu bwam
It isn't about taking people's freedoms away, it's about instigating violence.

And in this judge's mind, the message behind this minister's interpretation of the Bible was doing just that.

The message belongs in the pulpit, once he took his message to the secular world, he became subject to secular laws.

"...to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God."

44 posted on 02/13/2003 8:33:36 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: PaxMacian; yendu bwam
I have a question I would like to ask you, cause I'm not very familiar with the bible.

Is it correct that the verses in Leviticus not only condem homosexuality but also eating pork and a lot of other stuff most todays christians ignore?

45 posted on 02/13/2003 8:36:27 AM PST by SkyRat (If privacy wasn't of value, we wouldn't have doors on bathrooms.)
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To: yendu bwam
"Christians should forgive any repentant sinner."

Matthew 6:14-15

14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you."
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."


46 posted on 02/13/2003 8:36:28 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Notwithstanding
Court grants blacks special sentencing (Canada)

Thank you, Lord, for making me an American, and not a Canadian.

47 posted on 02/13/2003 8:44:08 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You're right, L. Gonzalez, though other statements by Jesus mention repentance as well. Also, my statement is still true (if you think about it)! Still, this has nothing to do with a government slipping into tyranny to deny people the fundamental right to express themselves and what they believe. That right is being denied in Canada (along with other fundamental rights as well). If I were Canadian, I would fight such tyranny.
48 posted on 02/13/2003 8:49:14 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
Can you yell "fire" in a crowded theatre?

49 posted on 02/13/2003 8:51:36 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: SkyRat
Yes, eating pork was once very dangerous, in fact, possibly fatal. If it were still so it would not be legal to eat today. There are many definitions of proscribed abominations in Leviticus. These are choices on lifes journey which will lead away from the grace of God and set one on the path to Hell. Many, including laying with a man, result in death of the soul which lives in God's grace until truly repentant and reborn.
50 posted on 02/13/2003 8:55:54 AM PST by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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