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OMG, UNBELIEVABLE: Wellesley College 1969 Student Commencement Speech of Hillary D. Rodham
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Posted on 02/15/2003 7:47:35 AM PST by Liz

Wellesley College 1969 Student Commencement Speech Hillary D. Rodham May 31, 1969 Ruth M. Adams, ninth president of Wellesley College, introduced Hillary D. Rodham, '69, at the 91st commencement exercises, as follows:

In addition to inviting Senator Brooke to speak to them this morning, the Class of '69 has expressed a desire to speak to them and for them at this morning's commencement. There was no debate so far as I could ascertain as to who their spokesman was to be -- Miss Hillary Rodham. Member of this graduating class, she is a major in political science and a candidate for the degree with honors. In four years she has combined academic ability with active service to the College, her junior year having served as a Vil Junior, and then as a member of Senate and during the past year as President of College Government and presiding officer of College Senate. She is also cheerful, good humored, good company, and a good friend to all of us and it is a great pleasure to present to this audience Miss Hillary Rodham.

Remarks of Hillary D. Rodham, President of the Wellesley College Government Association and member of the Class of 1969, on the occasion of Wellesley's 91st Commencement, May 31, 1969:

I am very glad that Miss Adams made it clear that what I am speaking for today is all of us -- the 400 of us -- and I find myself in a familiar position, that of reacting, something that our generation has been doing for quite a while now.

We're not in the positions yet of leadership and power, but we do have that indispensable task of criticizing and constructive protest and I find myself reacting just briefly to some of the things that Senator Brooke said. This has to be brief because I do have a little speech to give.

Part of the problem with empathy with professed goals is that empathy doesn't do us anything. We've had lots of empathy; we've had lots of sympathy, but we feel that for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible. What does it mean to hear that 13.3% of the people in this country are below the poverty line? That's a percentage. We're not interested in social reconstruction; it's human reconstruction. How can we talk about percentages and trends?

The complexities are not lost in our analyses, but perhaps they're just put into what we consider a more human and eventually a more progressive perspective. The question about possible and impossible was one that we brought with us to Wellesley four years ago.

We arrived not yet knowing what was not possible. Consequently, we expected a lot. Our attitudes are easily understood having grown up, having come to consciousness in the first five years of this decade -- years dominated by men with dreams, men in the civil rights movement, the Peace Corps, the space program -- so we arrived at Wellesley and we found, as all of us have found, that there was a gap between expectation and realities. But it wasn't a discouraging gap and it didn't turn us into cynical, bitter old women at the age of 18. It just inspired us to do something about that gap. What we did is often difficult for some people to understand. They ask us quite often: "Why, if you're dissatisfied, do you stay in a place?" Well, if you didn't care a lot about it you wouldn't stay. It's almost as though my mother used to say, "I'll always love you but there are times when I certainly won't like you."

Our love for this place, this particular place, Wellesley College, coupled with our freedom from the burden of an inauthentic reality allowed us to question basic assumptions underlying our education. Before the days of the media orchestrated demonstrations, we had our own gathering over in Founder's parking lot.

We protested against the rigid academic distribution requirement. We worked for a pass-fail system. We worked for a say in some of the process of academic decision making. And luckily we were in a place where, when we questioned the meaning of a liberal arts education there were people with enough imagination to respond to that questioning. So we have made progress. We have achieved some of the things that initially saw as lacking in that gap between expectation and reality. Our concerns were not, of course, solely academic as all of us know. We worried about inside Wellesley questions of admissions, the kind of people that should be coming to Wellesley, the process for getting them here. We questioned about what responsibility we should have both for our lives as individuals and for our lives as members of a collective group.

Coupled with our concerns for the Wellesley inside here in the community were our concerns for what happened beyond Hathaway House. We wanted to know what relationship Wellesley was going to have to the outer world.

We were lucky in that one of the first things Miss Adams did was to set up a cross-registration with MIT because everyone knows that education just can't have any parochial bounds any more. One of the other things that we did was the Upward Bound program. There are so many other things that we could talk about; so many attempts, at least the way we saw it, to pull ourselves into the world outside. And I think we've succeeded. There will be an Upward Bound program, just for one example, on the campus this summer.

Many of the issues that I've mentioned -- those of sharing power and responsibility, those of assuming power and responsibility have been general concerns on campuses throughout the world. But underlying those concerns there is a theme, a theme which is so trite and so old because the words are so familiar. It talks about integrity and trust and respect. Words have a funny way of trapping our minds on the way to our tongues but there are necessary means even in this multi-media age for attempting to come to grasps with some of the inarticulate maybe even inarticulable things that we're feeling.

We are, all of us, exploring a world that none of us even understands and attempting to create within that uncertainty. But there are some things we feel, feelings that our prevailing, acquisitive, and competitive corporate life, including tragically the universities, is not the way of life for us. We're searching for more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living. And so our questions, our questions about our institutions, about our colleges, about our churches, about our government continue.

The questions about those institutions are familiar to all of us. We have seen heralded across the newspapers. Senator Brooke has suggested some of them this morning. But along with using these words -- integrity, trust, and respect -- in regard to institutions and leaders we're perhaps harshest with them in regard to ourselves.

Every protest, every dissent, whether it's an individual academic paper, Founder's parking lot demonstration, is unabashedly an attempt to forge an identity in this particular age. That attempt at forging for many of us over the past four years has meant coming to terms with our humanness. Within the context of a society that we perceive -- now we can talk about reality, and I would like to talk about reality sometime, authentic reality, inauthentic reality, and what we have to accept of what we see -- but our perception of it is that it hovers often between the possibility of disaster and the potentiality for imaginatively responding to men's needs.

There's a very strange conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left, collegiate protests that I find very intriguing because it harkens back to a lot of the old virtues, to the fulfillment of original ideas. And it's also a very unique American experience. It's such a great adventure. If the experiment in human living doesn't work in this country, in this age, it's not going to work anywhere.

But we also know that to be educated, the goal of it must be human liberation. A liberation enabling each of us to fulfill our capacity so as to be free to create within and around ourselves. To be educated to freedom must be evidenced in action, and here again is where we ask ourselves, as we have asked our parents and our teachers, questions about integrity, trust, and respect.

Those three words mean different things to all of us. Some of the things they can mean, for instance: Integrity, the courage to be whole, to try to mold an entire person in this particular context, living in relation to one another in the full poetry of existence.

If the only tool we have ultimately to use is our lives, so we use it in the way we can by choosing a way to live that will demonstrate the way we feel and the way we know. Integrity -- a man like Paul Santmire. Trust. This is one word that when I asked the class at our rehearsal what it was they wanted me to say for them, everyone came up to me and said "Talk about trust, talk about the lack of trust both for us and the way we feel about others. Talk about the trust bust." What can you say about it? What can you say about a feeling that permeates a generation and that perhaps is not even understood by those who are distrusted? All they can do is keep trying again and again and again. There's that wonderful line in East Coker by Eliot about there's only the trying, again and again and again; to win again what we've lost before.

And then respect. There's that mutuality of respect between people where you don't see people as percentage points. Where you don't manipulate people. Where you're not interested in social engineering for people. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. And the word "consequences" of course catapults us into the future.

One of the most tragic things that happened yesterday, a beautiful day, was that I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world. She wouldn't want to live today and look ahead to what it is she sees because she's afraid. Fear is always with us but we just don't have time for it. Not now.

There are two people that I would like to thank before concluding. That's Ellie Acheson, who is the spearhead for this, and also Nancy Scheibner who wrote this poem which is the last thing that I would like to read:

My entrance into the world of so-called "social problems"
Must be with quiet laughter, or not at all.
The hollow men of anger and bitterness
The bountiful ladies of righteous degradation
All must be left to a bygone age.
And the purpose of history is to provide a receptacle
For all those myths and oddments
Which oddly we have acquired
And from which we would become unburdened
To create a newer world
To transform the future into the present.
We have no need of false revolutions
In a world where categories tend to tyrannize our minds
And hang our wills up on narrow pegs.
It is well at every given moment to seek the limits in our lives.
And once those limits are understood
To understand that limitations no longer exist.
Earth could be fair. And you and I must be free
Not to save the world in a glorious crusade
Not to kill ourselves with a nameless gnawing pain
But to practice with all the skill of our being
The art of making possible.


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Trust? Integriity? Respect?

I may be sick.

1 posted on 02/15/2003 7:47:35 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
You *are* sick. You posted it.

;^)

2 posted on 02/15/2003 7:48:41 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cyber Liberty
We're not in the positions yet of leadership and power

Hillary communist Clinton......
3 posted on 02/15/2003 7:50:47 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Quick, pass the bromo.
4 posted on 02/15/2003 7:52:41 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
I'll have to check. That eight years pretty well wiped out my supply.
5 posted on 02/15/2003 7:54:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: TLBSHOW
One must wonder what she meant by "we".
6 posted on 02/15/2003 7:54:49 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Liz
She has a short memory, Liz. She's already forgotten trust, integrity, honesty, etc. These people use these words loosely at best. M
7 posted on 02/15/2003 7:55:03 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Cyber Liberty
Her Thighness was using the royal "we."
8 posted on 02/15/2003 7:55:58 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Liz
She always did take herself a little too damn seriously, didn't she? She had been exactly nowhere at this point, and done exactly nothing- but she was quite willing to tell the whole world how to live. Still is, in fact.
9 posted on 02/15/2003 7:57:13 AM PST by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: Cyber Liberty
Senator Hitlery:"There's that mutuality of respect between people where you don't see people as percentage points. Where you don't manipulate people.

This stuff can't be made up.

The lying hag was and will forever be devoid of possessing an iota of crediblity or sincerity.

10 posted on 02/15/2003 7:57:26 AM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of self-loathing anti-Americanism and sedition)
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To: Liz
She is also cheerful, good humored, good company, and a good friend to all of us and it is a great pleasure to present to this audience Miss Hillary Rodham.

This must have taken place in an alternate universe.

11 posted on 02/15/2003 7:57:34 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Liz
"inarticulable "

Where the hell did she get that one? It's not in my dictionary.

12 posted on 02/15/2003 7:59:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ()
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To: Liz
.. I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world ..

Wow ... this "other woman" must have been some kind of prophet ... and maybe she had an aversion to black, crusty pant suits to boot!

13 posted on 02/15/2003 8:00:32 AM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: Paul Atreides
another alternate universe.......


DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -

Fast forward to 2008: Hillary Rodham Clinton is running for president, the stock market is at 12,000, and NASCAR's stars are racing for the Viagra Cup.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030207/ap_on_sp_au_ra_ne/car_nascar_tobacco_4

14 posted on 02/15/2003 8:01:32 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Cyber Liberty; Liz
Trust? Integrity? Respect?
I may be sick.

Just remember that this is from the person who could stand by the one who attempted to define "is" for us all. This posting shows just how deep the liberal corruption had sunk back then.

One might essay, from observation of HRH, some approximate current working definitions:

trust: You obey what I order you to do/say/think.

integrity: You obey without question.

respect: You do not question what I order you to do/say/think.

15 posted on 02/15/2003 8:02:45 AM PST by Eala
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To: Liz
An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a NEWSMAX.com article by Charles R. Smith: "SENATOR CLINTON A THREAT TO U.S. SECURITY" (012303) -- *Updated February 15, 2003

16 posted on 02/15/2003 8:04:26 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Liz
There's no there there. This speech is incomprehensible from one sentence fragment to the next.
17 posted on 02/15/2003 8:04:54 AM PST by bvw
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To: Liz
There's that mutuality of respect between people where you don't see people as percentage points. Where you don't manipulate people. Where you're not interested in social engineering for people.

Her whole life has been dedicated to being disrespectful by her own definition.

18 posted on 02/15/2003 8:04:56 AM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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To: Paul Atreides
Her Thighness

Priceless!

19 posted on 02/15/2003 8:05:11 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
inauthentic

It's in my dictionary but it sounds awkward and verbose, just like the rest of her speech.

20 posted on 02/15/2003 8:13:34 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Liz
Our love for this place, this particular place, Wellesley College, coupled with our freedom from the burden of an inauthentic reality allowed us to question basic assumptions underlying our education.

Huh?!! what the hell is this woman talking about?

21 posted on 02/15/2003 8:15:48 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
Hill the shrill.
22 posted on 02/15/2003 8:17:31 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Marysecretary
She - like her spouse - will say anything to advance their own agendas.
23 posted on 02/15/2003 8:19:38 AM PST by Liz
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To: Ciexyz
Precisely. Betcha she doesn't even know what the meaning of "is" is.
24 posted on 02/15/2003 8:20:42 AM PST by Liz
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To: Cyber Liberty
We= Hillary + the channeled "imposter" spirit of Eleanore Roosevelt
25 posted on 02/15/2003 8:22:04 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: hillary's_fat_a**
This "other woman" surely must have had a vision - a frightening vision - of Hitlery in power (barf).
26 posted on 02/15/2003 8:22:33 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
If I had a time machine I'd go back in time and distribute comdoms to a whole bunch of folks. Her's would be the first, then sinkmaster,hitler,sadaam and all the rest of the evil pinheads I could think of.
27 posted on 02/15/2003 8:23:28 AM PST by WhirlwindAttack (We will know if she is the beast if she won't die from a fatal head wound. Check Revelations.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
She's so "bright, friendly and smart" that only she knows.
28 posted on 02/15/2003 8:24:45 AM PST by Liz
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To: WhirlwindAttack
Hitlery is a result of "Planned Parenthood".......that oughta be a caution to anyone employing it.
29 posted on 02/15/2003 8:25:51 AM PST by Liz
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To: Paul Atreides
Dual personality?
30 posted on 02/15/2003 8:26:56 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
And Bill "didn't inhale?"

You'd HAVE to been high to put up with listening to this crap.
31 posted on 02/15/2003 8:27:37 AM PST by P.O.E. (Liberate Iraq!)
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To: Liz
"Part of the problem with empathy with professed goals is that empathy doesn't do us anything. We've had lots of empathy; we've had lots of sympathy, but we feel that for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible. What does it mean to hear that 13.3% of the people in this country are below the poverty line? That's a percentage. We're not interested in social reconstruction; it's human reconstruction. How can we talk about percentages and trends?"

Geee...what happened to 'feeling our pain'?? Why were the 'poor' no better off under the Clinton administration? Oh he got some off Welfare...they became the 'nation of hamburger flippers' Bubba said X41 planned to create.

Hillary is a terrorist.

32 posted on 02/15/2003 8:29:23 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: P.O.E.
That's what I get from over-editing my post.

"You'd have to been" shoulda been "You have to have been".

33 posted on 02/15/2003 8:30:40 AM PST by P.O.E. (Liberate Iraq!)
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To: Liz
More like two faces. I don't think that Hillary has a personality, just a psychosis.
34 posted on 02/15/2003 8:35:47 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Liz
TLC ran a special on the life of Hilleray ROdhaaaam. It was fairly unbiased, and gave a pretty good look at who she is and what makes her tick. I used to just dislike her in a sort of distant fashion, now she makes me nervous (in that twitchy, kill it now before it kills me sort of way). This woman is not a Democrat because she is in any way liberal or has any of those warm fuzzy liberal idealisms.
She wants and lusts for power and control. Hubby was just a stepping stone on her self appointed crusade to rule the world for the betterment of ..... Hillary.
35 posted on 02/15/2003 8:35:59 AM PST by cavtrooper21 (Why walk when you can ride?)
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To: All
Just a few years later, while a student at Yale Law School, Hillary went to work for a commie law firm. This was mentioned in Barbara Olson's book about Hillary. Here's an obituary from the NY Times (December 2, 2001) for the head of that firm:
Robert Treuhaft, a crusading radical lawyer who inspired his wife, Jessica Mitford, to write her best seller "The American Way of Death," died in New York on Nov. 11. He was 89.
[snip]
Robert Edward Treuhaft was born in New York on Aug. 8, 1912, the son of working-class immigrants from Hungary. His mother eventually came to run her own hat shop on Park Avenue; his father, a waiter turned bootlegger, became part owner of a Wall Street restaurant.

Raised in the Bronx and then Brooklyn, Mr. Treuhaft won a scholarship to Harvard, where he studied law.

After working for the International Ladies Garment Workers Union in New York, Mr. Treuhaft was rejected by the Army on medical grounds at the start of World War II and went to work for the Office of Price Administration in Washington; there he met and fell in love with Miss Mitford.

The couple could scarcely have been more different in upbringing. She was one of the blue-blooded Mitford sisters, a daughter of Lord Redesdale and sister to Nancy, the novelist; to Diana, who married Sir Oswald Mosley, the British fascist leader; to Unity, one of Hitler's cronies; and to Deborah, who became Duchess of Devonshire.

Miss Mitford was recovering from the loss of her first husband, Esmond Romilly, Winston Churchill's nephew, who had been killed on a Canadian Air Force raid over Germany and with whom she had eloped to fight with the International Brigade in the Spanish Civil War.

Mr. Treuhaft and Miss Mitford were married in 1943; Miss Mitford accepted his proposal before he had finished making it. They moved to San Francisco, where Mr. Treuhaft started a radical law firm that specialized in fighting every kind of discrimination and social injustice.

Both joined the United States Communist Party and were frequently investigated and harassed by government officials; for many years they were denied passports, for example. But by 1958 they had grown disillusioned with Communism and left the party.
[snip]
In 1971 he accepted a young Yale lawyer named Hillary Rodham (now Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton) as an intern.
[snip]


36 posted on 02/15/2003 8:36:11 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: P.O.E.
Deep down, Hill is still that eternal college rebel. And America is still filled with bad guys (like Republicans). (/sarcasm)
37 posted on 02/15/2003 8:39:27 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: P.O.E.
First off the woman has no ear whatsoever for language. If I had given that speech in my Jr. College I would have been laughed off the podium, then kicked off the team. After reading that speech I can only compare her (and others of her ilk) to the wonderful speech Ken Starr gave at CPAC. I felt he was talking to each and every one of us in the room. Hillery? "full of sound and fury signifying nothing"
38 posted on 02/15/2003 8:40:14 AM PST by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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To: Liz
"There's a very strange Conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left collegiate protests..."

Yes, indeed, it's called 'incipient Fascism', and it was good of you to notice.

Her "...harkening back to old virtues..." has a distinctly 'national socialist' quality to it; This is the germ of totalitarianism.

Hers is the face of American tyranny, should it come.
39 posted on 02/15/2003 8:44:25 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: TLBSHOW
The Hilldebeast's ,never publicly stated, Motto:

"If you can't dazzle'em with brilliance, baffle'em with bullsh#t"....(ya'know)...

The Toons are "Clear and Present Dangers"....

Mustang sends w/ Best FReegards.
40 posted on 02/15/2003 8:54:35 AM PST by Mustang
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To: cavtrooper21; Paul Atreides; cake_crumb; WhirlwindAttack; Grampa Dave; Mudboy Slim; Libloather; ...
What every American should know about Hillary Rodham Clinton:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/844068/posts
41 posted on 02/15/2003 9:02:09 AM PST by Liz
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To: PatrickHenry
International Brigade in the Spanish Civil War

They were communists too, as was the "Abraham Lincoln Bridgade", made up of American communists, with equipment and "advisors" sent by Uncle Joe Stalin. The other side were no angels either, being supported, with "volunteers" (like the Chicom "volunteers in Korea a couple of decades later)

42 posted on 02/15/2003 9:39:24 AM PST by El Gato
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To: headsonpikes
"There's a very strange Conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left collegiate protests..." Yes, indeed, it's called 'incipient Fascism', and it was good of you to notice. Her "...harkening back to old virtues..." has a distinctly 'national socialist' quality to it; This is the germ of totalitarianism.

Hers is the face of American tyranny, should it come.

"Facist? Who me? What would my liberal-Marxist
friends and donors say if they knew I said this?"

43 posted on 02/15/2003 9:51:25 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
One of the most tragic things that happened yesterday, a beautiful day, was that I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world. She wouldn't want to live today and look ahead to what it is she sees because she's afraid.

Something tells me there was more to it than that.

It's almost as though my mother used to say, "I'll always love you but there are times when I certainly won't like you."

I can understand why Mother Roddam felt that way. Hillary's mother problem also provides some insight as to why she is the way she is.

Flo King got Hillary right. HRC brought all the old sorority girl mentality to radicalism. Emmett Tyrrell was also insightful writing about "coat and tie" student radicals, though too self-congratulatory about his own school days.

Hillary's against organization and in favor of spontaneity, but every thing has to be organized by committees and meetings. She wanted to fight the establishment, yet rise in it and be praised and patted on the head by its leading lights. There's that schoolgirlish or schoolboyish desire "to create a newer world," to turn everything upside down and hope something better will result from it.

Words have a funny way of trapping our minds on the way to our tongues but there are necessary means even in this multi-media age for attempting to come to grasps with some of the inarticulate maybe even inarticulable things that we're feeling.

Indeed. Hillary's mind is a hodgepodge of contradictory ideas. At times she's incoherent. . That's natural for the extemporaneous remarks, but it also turns up in what must be the prepared part of the speech. "Collective group" stands out: a collective is a group and a group is a collective.

Through it all, there's schoolgirl romanticism and the unfulfillable longing for "authenticity" that was the bane of the 1960s and the 20th century in general. What is "authentic" is up for each individual to decide. And those individuals will change their minds on that subject many times. "Authenticity" is an excuse to overturn things, and after that's done, people and things won't be any more "real" or "authentic" than before.

We're searching for more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living.

Wiser minds will tell you that these aspirations can't be satisfied by politics.

"Everybody's young days are a dream, a delightful insanity, a sweet solipsism. . . . we live happily on credit. There are no obligations to be observed; there are no accounts to be kept. Nothing is specified in advance; everything is what can be made of it. . . . We are impatient of restraint . . . we readily believe . . . that to have contracted a habit is to have failed. These, in my opinion, are among our virtues when we are young; but how remote they are from the disposition appropriate for participating in the style of government I have been describing." -- Michael Oakeshott

44 posted on 02/15/2003 10:03:17 AM PST by x
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To: Ciexyz
I think her loyal followers think she's "the smartest woman in the world" because they don't understand a word she says. They figure she's speaking so above their simple language skills that she must be a genius, The rest of us know it's pure gobbledygook!
45 posted on 02/15/2003 10:06:08 AM PST by surrey
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To: headsonpikes
"There's a very strange Conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left collegiate protests..." Yes, indeed, it's called 'incipient Fascism', and it was good of you to notice. Her "...harkening back to old virtues..." has a distinctly 'national socialist' quality to it; This is the germ of totalitarianism.

Yes, the socialists and the fascists are one and the same -- statists.

Hers is the face of American tyranny, should it come.

Her's is also the thighs and fat a*s of tyranny....

46 posted on 02/15/2003 10:31:22 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Liz
She is also cheerful, good humored, good company, and a good friend to all of us.....


47 posted on 02/15/2003 10:44:06 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Liz
reference
48 posted on 02/15/2003 11:37:51 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: Liz
I wish they could get caught and jailed for their many crimes against America. We can hope, huh?
49 posted on 02/15/2003 11:50:19 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Liz
You are a glutton for punishment that is for sure, just like me!!
50 posted on 02/15/2003 3:05:59 PM PST by ewing
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