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1 posted on 02/21/2003 7:15:37 PM PST by SeenTheLight
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Sound familiar, counter-protesters?
2 posted on 02/21/2003 7:17:16 PM PST by SeenTheLight
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To: Yehuda; yonif; sarasmom
Just guessing you might be interested in this, from past comments...
3 posted on 02/21/2003 7:18:35 PM PST by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight
Good post. I am 50. Seems when I was young (in my teens), the left still loved Israel for its Kibbutzim and secular (liberal) Jews.

But, that was when the Left could still produce some semblance of moral indignation (and really mean it) at various injustices.

Now, their outrage is always make-believe and patently political at its root.
4 posted on 02/21/2003 7:22:28 PM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: SeenTheLight
Read and agree. However....

WHY DO JEWISH PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE DEMOCRAT?

Lara, putting new meaning into the fact that the Clintons hosted Arafat more than any other HOS.
5 posted on 02/21/2003 7:25:13 PM PST by LaraCroft ('Bout time)
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When I was in High School, the book to read was "Exodus" My God how Isreal was revered in those days. And to answer your question as to what happened between then and now, I think it goes like this: One fine day in the the mid sixties American liberals woke up to the horrifying fact that Isreal was one very gutsy little conservative country. Shortly thereafter, a 180 occurred.
6 posted on 02/21/2003 7:29:53 PM PST by StACase
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To: SeenTheLight
well heck, this's easy. If "the enemy (fundamentalist Islam) of my enemy (fundamentalist Christianity) is my friend," then it stands to reason that "the friend (God's chosen people) of my enemy (fundamentalist Christianity) is my enemy." The Left's motivations are usually absurdly easy to discern.
13 posted on 02/21/2003 8:22:52 PM PST by Objective Reality
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The reason liberals hate Israel: Because it is essentially an American protectorate; Israel also affords us an important base of intelligence in the Mid East. Liberals hate America. Israel is an extension of American ideas including the control of the Christian/Jewish holy land. Liberals hate western religion; Jews and Christian get to enjoy the romance of the Old Testament without obstruction if we jointly control Jerusalem. Western Religion is the backbone of modern civilization. It gives us faith and hope for the future. I personally like it that way and am glad that the west controls that small piece of heaven.
14 posted on 02/21/2003 8:23:25 PM PST by Porterville
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I dont think the left "HATES" Israel. To hate, you have to have that emotion in your soul for your target, and quite frankly, the way the left is always trying to extinguish religion any and everywhere, their "feelings" toward Israel don't exist. It's a case of the leftists doing everything they can to become and remain as ignorant toward ANY God as they can.

They want to know NOTHING about Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion, because if they actually know anything, they could be called to account for their perversions & be judged on it all. Call it "Blissful Ignorance" of any kind of religion for peace of mind...UNTIL they stand before God on Judgement Day, then it'll be "Ignorance of God's laws (where you KNEW BETTER, deep down) is no excuse!" Of course, this is why most go around trying to play athiest & deny the existance of God.

The only other reason some might shun Israel is out of cowardice...If they stand with the bully Arabs that want Israel destroyed, maybe the bullies won't hurt them.

22 posted on 02/21/2003 8:50:11 PM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: SeenTheLight
Seems simple to me. Israelis are the Haves, Palestinians are the Have-Nots. Libs will always support the Have-Nots.
23 posted on 02/21/2003 8:59:15 PM PST by Toskrin
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To: SeenTheLight
"...why does the Left focus so exclusively on Israel?"

I've always wondered why Jewish folks mainly vote for the Libdem/Chicoms. I may never know...

27 posted on 02/21/2003 9:19:41 PM PST by Libloather
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The may be some anti-semitic leftists but anti-semitism is not yet a defining characteristic of the left. Especially when so many leftists, at least in the US, are Jewish.

What the left really hates is anybody with the nads and the civilization to face barbarism with armed force and win.

They only hate Jewish warriors.

They still love Jewish victims.
29 posted on 02/21/2003 9:28:11 PM PST by SBprone
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Why Does the Left Hate Israel?

Could be because Christians support Israel. The left hates Christians more than they hate capitalism.

30 posted on 02/21/2003 9:34:31 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: SeenTheLight
As a former liberal myself, let me try to give a "simple" explanation on why liberals hate Israel.

1) Israelis are mostly Caucasians (whites) while the Arabs are non-Caucasians (non-whites). A liberal will always choose the non-white over the white group in a conflict. Even if the non-white group expresses murderous rage (as in the case with the Arabs) against the white group, liberals will always choose the non-white group.

2) Israel was formed a little over 50 years ago. In that time, Israel has become the most powerfu and well-developed l nations in the region and more powerful than most countries around the world. Meanwhile, the Arab nations that surround this country continue to live in squalor and have contributed nothing for centuries.

Here's the trigger that drives liberals with utter hatred toward a country barely the size of New Hampshire: The implication from the above paragraph is that Israelis (Caucasians) are smarter than the Arabs (non-Caucasians). Whether or not this is accurate is irrelavant, but the implication is there. Thus, the need to jutsify Israel has an "evil" country, even though it's surrounded by 200 million Arabs that wish it destroyed.

38 posted on 02/22/2003 12:32:27 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: SeenTheLight
Because it's not a 3rd world nation and with it's democracy and standard of living it embarrasses the rotten 3rd world nations that surround it. Also because the Eurabia bloc in the UN is so strong and promotes Israel hated.

The left will always support 3rd worlders when they fight developed nations. It's a lowest common denominator kind of thing.

39 posted on 02/22/2003 12:40:59 AM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: SeenTheLight
The Left hate Israel because because the Left often hate God.



45 posted on 02/22/2003 12:53:48 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: SeenTheLight
I expect that the left hates Israel because most Israelis are Jews.
64 posted on 02/22/2003 9:47:48 AM PST by LibKill ("Eat a live toad before breakfast and nothing worse than that can happen to you all day.")
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Why does the Left hate Israel?
Why does the Left hate America?
Why does the Left hate Christians?
Why does the Left hate conservatives?
Why does the Left hate Republicans?
Why does the Left hate capitalism?
Why does the Left hate competition?
Why does the Left hate gun owners?
Why does the Left hate private schools?
Why does the Left hate morality?
Why does the Left hate patriotism?
74 posted on 02/22/2003 12:37:14 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: SeenTheLight
The left hates Israel because they are capitalists, the same reason that they hate the US. They also hate Jews and Christians because they answer to a higher power than the state, a power that allows free choice. The left tolerates Islam because in this case the religion and the state are one.
94 posted on 02/22/2003 7:33:48 PM PST by Eva
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Why Does the Left Hate Israel?

95 posted on 02/22/2003 7:39:50 PM PST by Consort
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The real reason the left hates Israel is two-fold. First of all, they have been hijacked by Palestinian Nationalism and secondly, they don’t like uppity Jews.

Thank goodness for uppity Jews

100 posted on 02/22/2003 8:08:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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