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Fistgate to be Held Again on March 15
MassNews ^ | March 7, 2003 | MassNews Staff

Posted on 03/07/2003 7:35:36 AM PST by scripter

Fistgate IV will be held again on March 15 to teach teenagers how to play with the sexual organs of other students.

The first Fistgate was in 2000 and caused waves of protests from parents and others. It was exposed by the Parents Rights Coalition which taped part of the scandal so that people would finally understand what was happening, and by MassNews which reported it.

The homosexual community has said that its agenda was badly damaged by the scandal. It was almost unable to find a location for the event in 2001, but Tufts University finally did let them use its facilities again.

The sponsor of the event, GLSEN, an acronym for Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, says that the purpose of Fistgate is to teach safety and respect. But the event that was taped in 2000 went on for 55 minutes about explicit forms of homosexual sex, including thrusting your fist into another's rectum, before anything was even mentioned about condoms in the last five minutes.

Four years later in 2003, the Gay/Straight Alliance at Newton North High School, with the help of the state Dept, of Education, is handing out leaflets to students arriving at the school, which ask questions such as, "If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

It lists BAGLY as a resource for the teenagers to contact. In 1999, which was before Fistgate, MassNews reported that BAGLY offered $25 and free dinner to boys who would come to their headquarters in Boston and discuss homosexual sex and other issues. The boys were also invited to a free, three-day, lakeside, weekend retreat in New Hampshire with other "boys" up to 25-years, who are "attracted to or have sex with other men."

The following is printed on the Newton High pamphlets: "This project is supported by a grant from the Massachusetts Department of Education."

The state has been paying more than $1.5 million/year to help the Gay/Straight Alliances in the schools and similar activities. It is impossible to discover how much money is now going to those projects. Some of the money always went to GLSEN and it is assumed that much of it still does. <


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To: scripter
Four years later in 2003, the Gay/Straight Alliance at Newton North High School, with the help of the state Dept, of Education, is handing out leaflets to students arriving at the school, which ask questions such as, "If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

If you have never slept on a bed of nails, how do you know you wouldn't prefer that?

If you have never eaten breakfast cereal in automotive gasoline, how do you know you wouldn't prefer that?

If you have never tried bologna made from cow dung, how do you know you wouldn't prefer that?

OK, I've heard of some dumb ideas before, but the idea that you have to actually try something before you can know if you would "prefer" it is bogus with a capital bog. Surely the SADs can do better with their recruitment brochures.

Does anybody else remember those Alka-Seltzer commercials, "Try it ... you'll LIKE it. So I tried it. Thought I was gonna DIE."

Shalom.

121 posted on 03/10/2003 7:25:30 AM PST by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: DBrow
Mass Legislature was told that they could not discuss the matter either, at a time when the funding of the program was to be debated.

That's a fundamental balance of powers issue -- I'd think no court could limit the speech within a state legislature chamber. Can you expound on that issue?

122 posted on 03/10/2003 7:29:10 AM PST by bvw
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To: Right Wing Professor
I do think that abandonment of extrinsic moral codes in favor of 'if it feels good, do it;' in the sexual arena leads to a similar ethical laxness in the non sexual arena.

I think this part needs to be said a lot louder and a lot more often - and not only when addressing SADs. Homosexuality isn't the early stage of our moral sickness, it's the final stage. The early stage was entirely heterosexual. It's the confusion of sex with recreational activities. It begins with winking at adultery and fornication, then progresses through no-fault divorce, abortion, homosexuality, bestiality, and finally self-destruction.

It begins when we start worshipping the created (sex) instead of the creator. And the heterosexuals need to get their own houses in order if we ever hope to combat the SAD problem.

Shalom.

123 posted on 03/10/2003 7:51:33 AM PST by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: ArGee
Well said
124 posted on 03/10/2003 7:56:28 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: madg
"They set out to destroy something good"

Oh, yeah. It's really good to be teaching our young people explicit sexual techniques of the perverted kind.

125 posted on 03/10/2003 10:52:09 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: FourtySeven
"BUT, HOW do they get that it was "four years later", when the FIRST one was in 2000, and THIS year is 2003?!? At the MOST, that's a 3 year difference, depending on how you count!"

If you counted 2000, this would be the 4th year. Maybe it's the '4th annual fistgate'. LOL

126 posted on 03/10/2003 10:55:03 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Right Wing Professor; madg
"A group of people talking about sadomasochistic acts with underage children do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy."

Exactly, RWP. They have a criminal conspiracy of intent to commit. Fags who do this should be castrated and kept in jail.
127 posted on 03/10/2003 11:13:00 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: MEGoody
If you counted 2000, this would be the 4th year. Maybe it's the '4th annual fistgate'

Honestly, until you said that, I could not see how they got 4 years. Obviously that's what the author intended to say, however the phrase, "Four years later..." is not the same as saying "At the fourth annual 'Fistgate'...". Four years later is four years later; there's no getting around that.

As I said before, I don't doubt there's some homosexual activism at our public schools, but it's pieces like this one that liberals love to point at and say, "Look at these dumb hick conservatives, they can't even say what they intend correctly". I hold our evidence to a higher standard because that's what it will be held to, by our adversary in this battle. This piece does not meet that standard, imo.

128 posted on 03/10/2003 11:21:37 AM PST by FourtySeven
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To: FourtySeven; MEGoody; Right Wing Professor
"I don't doubt there's some homosexual activism at our public schools..."

Or perhaps there's much more than we realize. If you listen to audio clip 8. Scott Whiteman: As With Vegetables, Children Shouldn't Knock Homosexuality Until They Have Tried It (Length 8:02), from time index 5:39 to 7:41, you will hear a representative from the homosexual group "SpeakOut" admit that discussions about explicit homosexual sex have actually taken place in public school classrooms - a middle school classroom in that particular instance. Public school teachers who are either homosexual, or supporters of homosexuals, find creative ways to introduce homosexual topics into the school curriculum. One way teachers do this is by bringing homosexuals, under the guise of "guest speakers," into their classrooms.

The tape confirms that these discussions with minor children occur in public schools, and the evidence presented leads us to believe that this occurs more often than the homosexual community will admit.

This article may not be well written, but it serves to remind us of what homosexual advocacy groups are capable of when they have access to public school children. As soon as we forget about the first "Fistgate," you can bet the homosexual community will try to push these kinds of workshops once again. We need to be reminded of that and stay vigilant.

129 posted on 03/10/2003 1:10:39 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: madg
Is there an emotion called shame, according to you? I mean, what things do you get ashamed about? Honestly -- not rhetorically? That is, really, your day-to-day life, what would make you ashamed? Spilling coffee on someone else? Having your blouse bust open? A run in your panty hose? Getting someones's name wrong, or forgetting a doctor's appointment?
134 posted on 03/10/2003 1:39:21 PM PST by bvw
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To: madg
DA's are not infallible.
136 posted on 03/10/2003 1:41:42 PM PST by bvw
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To: madg
I have no idea, but in Massachusetts it is against the law to do so secretly.

Full legal protection is to things that are legal. For example a contract between two willing, free and sane adults is not necessarily a legal contract. If the contract is for an illegal act, why then the contract is void. Legally unenforceable.

If the meeting, though private, involved the corruption of minors -- an illegal act -- why then a private party may well be protected from prosecution for taping same. The Bill of Rights prevents the police from doing so without cause and warrant, but does not apply to a private party.

138 posted on 03/10/2003 1:47:00 PM PST by bvw
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To: madg
There surely is things wrong with people who merely stay in certain situations. For example -- staying with a crowd when it goes into a riot itself is presumptively criminal, even when accidental.
140 posted on 03/10/2003 1:53:46 PM PST by bvw
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