Fistgate to be Held Again on March 15

MassNews ^ | March 7, 2003 | MassNews Staff

[scripter]

Fistgate IV will be held again on March 15 to teach teenagers how to play with the sexual organs of other students.

The first Fistgate was in 2000 and caused waves of protests from parents and others. It was exposed by the Parents Rights Coalition which taped part of the scandal so that people would finally understand what was happening, and by MassNews which reported it.

The homosexual community has said that its agenda was badly damaged by the scandal. It was almost unable to find a location for the event in 2001, but Tufts University finally did let them use its facilities again.

The sponsor of the event, GLSEN, an acronym for Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, says that the purpose of Fistgate is to teach safety and respect. But the event that was taped in 2000 went on for 55 minutes about explicit forms of homosexual sex, including thrusting your fist into another's rectum, before anything was even mentioned about condoms in the last five minutes.

Four years later in 2003, the Gay/Straight Alliance at Newton North High School, with the help of the state Dept, of Education, is handing out leaflets to students arriving at the school, which ask questions such as, "If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

It lists BAGLY as a resource for the teenagers to contact. In 1999, which was before Fistgate, MassNews reported that BAGLY offered $25 and free dinner to boys who would come to their headquarters in Boston and discuss homosexual sex and other issues. The boys were also invited to a free, three-day, lakeside, weekend retreat in New Hampshire with other "boys" up to 25-years, who are "attracted to or have sex with other men."

The following is printed on the Newton High pamphlets: "This project is supported by a grant from the Massachusetts Department of Education."

The state has been paying more than $1.5 million/year to help the Gay/Straight Alliances in the schools and similar activities. It is impossible to discover how much money is now going to those projects. Some of the money always went to GLSEN and it is assumed that much of it still does. <

[princess leah]

But we can't teach about God in the public schools...talk about going to hell in a handbasket!

[Pern]

Fistgate

Ugh, knowing what it represents, it just sounds nasty!

EEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!

[scripter]

Here we go again.

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[Ciexyz]

ohmygawd.

[Thebaddog]

Can you believe it? People might not like to hear about sexual practices in a public forum.

[scripter]

Schools and Homosexuality in the News

• The Deception and Desensitization of America's You  FR 
• Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'  FR 
• Canada OKs pro-'gay' books for kids  FR 
• 'Heterosexism' Under Attack in Canada  FR 
• Challenging the Homosexual Fury In Our Government   FR 
• Fistgate 
• From Tolerance to Affirmation: One School's Experi 
• Gay Activists Training Teachers in Special Curricu 
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• Gay School Teacher Initially Booked with Almost 40 
• Kids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex 
• "Making Schools Safe" Means "Refashioning Values" 
• NEA And GLSEN Seek To Stifle Free Speech 
• Schools Could Be Sued For Teaching About Homosexua 
• Texas A&M gay group wishes death on Republicans 
• Unsafe at Any Grade  FR 

[Mister Baredog]

"If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

How else can gays increase their demographic group unless they find ways to recruit new members. This starts in grade school with such things as "Heather has two mommies" and evolves to the high school level with events and programs like this article points out. They wish to teach that this is just another lifestyle choice, like how to cut your hair, or whether to participate in sports, etc. It all starts in the young minds in our grade school. HOW DEPRESSING for our future.

[L.N. Smithee]

I greatly appreciate the bold, rare, fearless truth-telling of the Massachusetts News, but this article is journalistically irresponsible. The GLSEN doesn't refer to this conference as "Fistgate," and the Mass News doesn't call it by it's actual title.

[Dionysius]

If left up to me, "Fistgate" would have an entirely different meaning than that intended -- and far less enlightened.

[EdReform]

Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'

The Deception and Desensitization of America's Youth

[upchuck]

C'mon MA FReepers! Why don't y'all FReep this event?

I'm wondering how this is presented to the parents. Surely, if thay knew in advance about the topic(s), a few would raise He11.

[sharktrager]

"If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

I've never run my genitals through a coffee grinder either, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like it.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

But we can't teach about God in the public schools...talk about going to hell in a handbasket!

Can you imagine the rukus if a local church want to have a similar activity to recruit church members? Perhaps we should define homosexuality as a religion and ban it from all public supported buildings and activities. Plus being a religion would add a stigma of forbidded and socialy unacceptable.

[Lizavetta]

Liberal Logic 101:

Eddie the Eagle in schools = promoting guns
Pledge of Allegience in schools = promoting God
Discussing abstinence in sex ed class = promoting right-wing morals
Homosexuality discussed in schools = NOT promoting homosexuality
School nurses who assist students in getting birth control pills or abortions = NOT promoting either

Got it?

[xzins]

Great.....the unadulterated work of Satan!

Tax dollars now being used to pimp young boys to homosexual, sex camps.

This nation will soon reject this evil or this nation will suffer.

[EdReform]

How You Can Help Stop PFLAG & GLSEN!

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

[TFMcGuire]

These people never cease trying to get in the faces of the normal world. They never stop trying to destroy children. And they become a fountainhead of every other type of perversion.

Homosexuality destroys individuals and societies. That is why, in God's mind, the practice is a capital crime.

It is a mark of civilization to proscribe these practices not to tolerate them.

[EdReform]

"Tax dollars now being used..."

Indeed - as documented here

[EdReform]

"This starts in grade school with such things as "Heather has two mommies" and evolves to..."

"Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities and Schooling, Edited by William J. Letts IV and James T. Sears, Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc., 1999, 291 pages"

An excerpt from:

Book Review - Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities in Schooling

Progressive Perspectives
Vol. 4, No. 1, John Dewey Project on Progressive Education, Spring 2002
College of Education and Social Services, University of Vermont

"Queering Elementary Education is unique because as it's title suggests it does not apologize for the stance that it takes, nor does it wallow in the problems of being homosexual in a heterosexist society. It is a book all educators should read whether they are elementary school teachers, administrators, or college professors. It challenges assumptions about how we view education and how we view caring for children. Edited by William J. Letts IV and James T. Sears, it offers many perspectives on the various aspects of elementary education and the myriad ways it is heterosexist.

In the first chapter James T. Sears proposes several ideas that appear throughout the book: speaking the unspoken by teaching about queer issues in elementary school, homosexuality as part of the human condition, and asserting that heterosexism and homophobia are acquired or learned beliefs. Bickmore asks, "why discuss sexuality in elementary school?” and answers “given the amount of (mis)information about gender relations and sexuality that flows freely these days in public spaces, media and peer groups, elementary educators could not prevent children from acquiring sexual information even if they wanted to do so"(p. 15). These concepts as well as others are discussed in various ways throughout the book..."

An excerpt from:

Queering Elementary Education - Book Review By Jack Nichols, GayToday.com

"Probably no other title in the pantheon of liberationist literature will evoke more controversy than Queering Elementary Education. If there was an unseemly uproar over Daddy's Roommate and Heather Has Two Mommies, just wait till the Religious Reich spies this august tome on some thoughtful teacher's shelf.

Its editors, both educators, have provided what some see as a companion volume to the award-winning film, It's Elementary. They take it for granted that children in the earliest grades have already been introduced "through schoolyard and media" to the concept of same sex love and affection, that most remain confused about it and that it is best to begin demystification processes early in life rather than allowing mistaken perceptions to take root.

It's Elementary's producer, Debra Chasnof, exults: "What a relief to finally have such a thoughtful collection of essays and research to back up what we've found in schools across the nation... an examination of the ways children's lives are hurt by homophobia and an inspiring array of strategies educators can use to turn this problem around."...

The American Pediatric Association recently called for the teaching of sexuality to begin by the middle of elementary school. Dr. Sears requests that Queering readers remember that "by the time boys and girls have become teenagers they have well-developed gender and sexual scripts: how boys and girls should behave, who makes up a family, and so on. These become our cultural straightjackets that cultivate the homophobia and sexism we see in the adult world."

"Rather than focussing on reducing such prejudices, shouldn't we consider how not to instill, foster, or intensify these prejudices in the first place?" he asks. Queering Elementary Education begins with "Foundational Issues" answering queries such as "Why Discuss Sexuality in Elementary School?".

The book's second section deals with children's sexual and social development, including supposed effects of being taught by openly gay teachers. Part three looks at possible curriculums, examining and critiquing the "heteronormative nature of elementary school science." Part four deals with family ties while the final section examines educators and their allies..."

[stylin19a]

If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

um...I wonder how this squares with the blather that homosexual's are born that way ?

[sheik yerbouty]

"Beware the Ides of March!'

[Antoninus]

The real question is, are there any MEN left in Massachusetts? Is anyone standing up to this garbage?

[Salvation]

so that all may know.

[Redbob]

"This project is supported by a grant from the Massachusetts Department of Education."

And, apparently, the Archdiocese of Boston, eh?

[Just another Joe]

"If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

It's not sleeping with a person of the same sex that turns my stomach.
My brother and I used to sleep in the same bed every time we went to my grandfather's house.

It's having sexual relations with a person of the same sex that turns my stomach.
Men do not have the correct anatomy for me to be having sex with them.

[Just another Joe]

Poor Heather!

[chs68]

"The homosexual community has said that its agenda was badly damaged by the scandal. It was almost unable to find a location for the event in 2001, but Tufts University finally did let them use its facilities again."

On an episode of Seinfeld that I happened to catch recently, Elaine says to a cabdriver, something like this: "Look, I went to Tufts. It was my 'safety school'. So don't talk to me about disappointment."

(I actually attended graduate school at Tufts. It is as bad as you think it is.)

[WriteOn]

Massachusetts is totally screwed up.

[onedoug]

Somehow, we've got to end public education.

[jimt]

"If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"

I've never applied 20,000 volts to my genital area either.

The question is idiotic. The "recruitment" couldn't be plainer.

[tuckrdout]

Not to mention unhealthy and unsanitary. Just think, these kids will be making your hamburger at McDonalds! And we wondered where those cases of e-coli came from!

GLSEN's goal is to have every adult in diapers by 2004.

[tuckrdout]

"Massachusetts is totally screwed up. "

Pun intended?!

[WriteOn]

Yuck. Phew. No!

[ArrogantBustard]

And, apparently, the Archdiocese of Boston, eh?

If you've evidence of such, post it.

[EdReform]

Whoa there, Galahad. L.N.Smithee is certainly not "partnering" with madg. Mr Smithee has been exposing the homosexual agenda for some time. Recent examples are posted here and here.

Also see:

Gay-stapo's Campaign Against Balanced Reporting Goose Steps On

"I Won't Hate Homosexuals No Matter How Much The Media Wants Me To."

(Note to madg - you were pinged because you were mentioned in this reply)

[buffyt]

LOL GOOD ONE!!!! After reading about the fisting, I am SO GRATEFUL that I have never had any homosexual leanings. That doesn't sound like a pleasurable experience to me!!!!! OUCH and UGH!!!!

[Lancey Howard]

(Yawn) This is in Massachusetts, right?
Those people get exactly what they deserve.
I can already envision my relatives in Maine once again shaking their heads and muttering, "mass-holes".

Good luck!

[JoJo Gunn]

"They neglect to mention that the “parents” that taped the previous conference violated state statute and are defendants in an ongoing civil suit (such remedy is also detailed in state statute), even though the MassNews itself recently published another editorial about that suit."

I will NOT debate the legality of taping dangerous deviants corrupting the malleable minds of our children. I'll play you Leftists/RINO's at your own game-by ANY means necessary we should protect our children from PREDATORS! HomoFascists have absolutely NO right to go into schools to promote perversion.

It's time for all good people to draw a line in the sand, and drive the HomoFascists back into the sewer they slithered from!

[aristeides]

Did Mitt Romney say anything about Fistgate during his gubernatorial campaign?

[Lancey Howard]

This reposrt from the Mass News is more honest than anything the Boston Globe has done in 30 years. It's interesting that you find the report so upsetting. You a homo?

[Lancey Howard]

You a homo?

Nevermind.
I went back and read some posts and I see what you are.
Don't post anything to me.

[JaimeD2]

He's talking about journalistic integrity, not any other kind of morality. He obviously doesn't like Mass News. And I doubt he appreciates being called a leftist for no good reason.

That having been said, I think that a lot of people are contradictory on the idea of civil disobedience. When someone on the left commits some misdemeanor rather than go against their own particular beliefs, a lot of people here use the argument that "the law is the LAW," and say that there's never any justification for breaking it. Then people here applaud those on the right who do just that. They're sometimes inconsistent.

Now, I think it would be consistent to say that the law is the law and yet agree with the viability of civil disobedience, provided that anybody who participates in it still has to face the appropriate punishment. But it's hypocritical to only allow for disregard of the law when you disagree with it.

[JoJo Gunn]

"Is that the “anarchy is okay so long as I agree with it” defense?"

You don't consider HomoFascism as anarchy against all things decent? Against the spirit of children?

You are obviously doing your part to shop legitimacy for NAMBLA, which is what all GLSEN exists for. I consider you my Enemy, an Enemy of America, and the Enemy of children everywhere. End of story.