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Response to Drudge: Lingle says no threat against Hawaii
Honolulu Advertiser ^ | Tuesday, March 18, 2003 | Lynda Arakawa

Posted on 03/18/2003 10:00:08 PM PST by bonesmccoy

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:18:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

While the rest of the nation has raised its terror-alert level to orange or "high risk" on the eve of a likely invasion of Iraq, Hawai'i will remain at a lower threat level, Gov. Linda Lingle said yesterday.

The blue level, known as "guarded," is the second-lowest alert level.


(Excerpt) Read more at the.honoluluadvertiser.com ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: mattdrudge; pearlharbor; tourism
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With fond appreciation of Matt Drudge's attempt to bring up Pearl Harbor as a target of terrorists, I am posting this story from today's Honolulu Advertiser. The story shows that the state of Hawaii has a responsible governor and has no special warning of any specific terrorist threats.

Drudge is wrong again.

1 posted on 03/18/2003 10:00:09 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
what about the threats against Pearl Harbor?

you might be right....you have more to fear from Chinese airline pilots almost hitting apartment buildings
2 posted on 03/18/2003 10:03:12 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
what about the threats against Pearl Harbor?

About 10 days ago, Matt Drudge was airing stories of AQ agents in Hawaii and wanting to target the USS Arizona with hi-jacked aircraft.

The lack of security on the neighboring islands is an issue. However, the idea of a hit at Arizona seems rather outlandish.

3 posted on 03/18/2003 10:06:59 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: bonesmccoy
The lack of security on the neighboring islands is an issue. However, the idea of a hit at Arizona seems rather outlandish.

I'm pretty sure from what contacts I do have that military and coast guard officials were aware of the threat before it hit the papers or Drudge. I got the impression the state hadn't been notified of the threat, however. We've had a lot more helicopter activity recently - though it could just be increased training at Wheeler.

Go Lingle, though. She's doing a great job thus far, despite the heavily Democratic legislature trying to trip her up at every turn.

4 posted on 03/18/2003 10:10:12 PM PST by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: bonesmccoy
With fond appreciation of Matt Drudge's attempt to bring up Pearl Harbor as a target of terrorists, I am posting this story from today's Honolulu Advertiser. The story shows that the state of Hawaii has a responsible governor and has no special warning of any specific terrorist threats.

Drudge is wrong again

Al Qaeda targeting US military facilities at Pearl Harbor........

By (the highly respected) Bill Gertz

bonesmccoy is wrong again

5 posted on 03/18/2003 10:16:59 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: bonesmccoy
Ask that the title of your post be changed from Response to Drudge:.... to Response to Gertz:....
6 posted on 03/18/2003 10:20:17 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: bonesmccoy
Washington Times

What did you think?.....that Drudge simply pulled that story out of his ass?

7 posted on 03/18/2003 10:31:01 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: bonesmccoy
Well, heck! I really don't think Hawaii is much of a target, due to costs and distance, and escape routes. They are pretty isolated.

Whatever the Gov. wants to do is fine with me.

On another matter, I understand that the SARS virus is now known. The family tree of this bug is worrisome to me. It definately has my attention now.

A vaccine must be developed pretty quick or we may not make it to 2010. This thing could well go pandemic, as some have feared.

8 posted on 03/18/2003 10:32:05 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: hole_n_one
Drudge often pulls stories from someplace dark.

Gertz makes a occasional booboo as well.

Frankly, crashing an aluminum airframe into a large military ship or sub sounds like speculations or Ossama bravado to me. If the craft strayed off course and headed for the base, it would likely be intercepted. The Gov. cannot fix security levels at military facilities.

9 posted on 03/18/2003 10:42:10 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: bonesmccoy
Who is Bill Gertz?

Bill Gertz is an internationally recognized newspaper reporter who has specialized in writing major stories on a wide variety of defense, intelligence, and international security issues. A veteran defense writer who specializes in coming up with inside stories, often based on classified documents, he is widely viewed as one of the best reporters in his field. His sources within government are extensive.

Bill has broken a number of stories with international implications. As former CIA Director R. James Woolsey put it, “When I was DCI [Director of Central Intelligence] Bill used to drive me crazy because I couldn’t figure out where the leaks were coming from. Now that I’ve been outside for two years, I read him religiously to find out what’s going on.” Secretary of Energy Bill Richardson told the author: “We talk about your stories at Cabinet meetings.” And White House spokesman Michael McCurry once called the author “a straight shooter” who has written “more interesting reporting on national security than anybody on the beat.” Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh also has described Bill as “one of the best national security reporters in the country” who has produced more scoops exposing the Clinton administration’s foreign and defense policy failures than any other reporter.

Born on Long Island in 1952, Bill is currently the defense and national security reporter of The Washington Times, a position he has held for the past 14 years. Abroad, Bill has been subjected to vitriolic verbal attacks by no less than the chief of Russian SVR foreign intelligence service, successor to the KGB. SVR Director Vyacheslav Trubnikov called him a “tool” of the CIA after he disclosed Russian spying in the Balkans. Communist China’s Deputy Foreign Minister Li Zhoxing, now Beijing’s ambassador to Washington, has denounced Bill for exposing China’s international nuclear technology and missile sales. Russia’s Foreign Ministry has filed at least two formal diplomatic protest notes to the U.S. government over Gertz stories.

Bill has written numerous articles for journals and magazines, including National Review, The Weekly Standard, and Air Force Magazine. He has lectured on defense, national security, and media issues at the Defense Department’s National Security Leadership Program, Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, the FBI National Academy in Quantico, Virginia, the National Defense University in Washington, DC, and at the CIA in Virginia.

Source

The Gertz File

I'm done.

10 posted on 03/18/2003 10:43:06 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: wirestripper
If the poster wants to go after the accuracy of Gertz' report, fine....but I don't understand the purpose of bringing up Drudge in this instance.
11 posted on 03/18/2003 10:45:51 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
I dunno! I quess bones saw it as a anomoly. The two stories do seem to contradict each other. However, the gov. has no jurisdiction over military bases, or for that matter, airport security (anymore).
12 posted on 03/18/2003 10:50:54 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: hole_n_one
Yes, apparently Mr. Drudge and Bill Gertz are wrong.

I usually respect Bill Gertz' stories, but on this one the man is totally wrong.

How come?
13 posted on 03/19/2003 7:34:00 AM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: hole_n_one
Does it bother you that someone holds Drudge accountable for a screwed up report?

What's the matter with that?

Hawaii deserves to have a helping hand.

Drudge and his "contacts" shot a giant hole in the economic head of the only state in the Western US with a GOP governor.

Get a fricking clue.
14 posted on 03/19/2003 7:35:47 AM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: wirestripper
Frankly, crashing an aluminum airframe into a large military ship or sub sounds like speculations or Ossama bravado to me. If the craft strayed off course and headed for the base, it would likely be intercepted. The Gov. cannot fix security levels at military facilities.

The only thing that could "intercept" would be our navy ships, but unless they are on alert, there isn't a chance if hi-jacking occurs just prior to final approach to Honolulu, the flight path is right across Barber's Point, Ewa Beach, and Pearl Harbor. There frankly isn't enough time to react. The "base" doesn't have anti-aircraft, and it would be too late to scramble fighters.
15 posted on 03/19/2003 7:39:37 AM PST by DeathfromBelow
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To: bonesmccoy
How is this connected to Drudge? I'm confused.

Speaking of Drudge... So far, he's really dropping the ball with war coverage. He's had the same front page up for the past 15 hours or so. This could be his time to shine, feeding constant war updates. But he seems to be sleeping.
17 posted on 03/19/2003 7:51:48 AM PST by wizzler
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To: bonesmccoy
Does it bother you that someone holds Drudge accountable for a screwed up report?

Not at all.....provided that it's warranted.

In this instance, it is not.

Why hold Drudge in anyway culpable for the assertions made by Gertz?....because he made them a banner headline on his site?

If anyone needs "a fricking clue", it's you.

18 posted on 03/19/2003 3:58:38 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: bonesmccoy
I can't comment on this without getting skewered.. Even beyond the realm of most, mortal men...
19 posted on 03/19/2003 4:01:20 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: bonesmccoy
One last thing.........

This and this was posted on FR.

Since Drudge was somehow "wrong" for permitting Gertz' info to be on his site, let me see if you've got a pair and go after Jim Robinson for being "wrong" as well.

20 posted on 03/19/2003 5:26:07 PM PST by hole_n_one
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