Justice for traitors.
Posted on 03/25/2003 4:33:36 AM PST by SJackson
Suppose the traitor who rolled three grenades into the tents of our soldiers in Iraq, killed a captain and wounded 15 others, was a member of Jerry Falwell's Thomas Road Baptist Church or Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral. Do you think his picture might be on the evening news or page one of the New York Times? In fact, the culprit, Asan Akbar (aka Mark Fidel Kools) is a black Muslim from South Central Los Angeles, and a member of the Masjid Bilal Islamic Center there. What this incident would show us, if the press were doing its job, is that there is a connection between the ideas people devote themselves to and what they wind up doing. (The fact that Akbar's former middle name -- which looks adopted as well -- is "Fidel" is probably not without significance either.)
Last July, the spiritual leader of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farakhan, traveled to Baghdad and had this to say: "The Muslim American people are praying to the almighty God to grant victory to Iraq." What people say they often wind up doing. America needs to wake up to the fact that there is an army of people in this country, some Muslim some not, who identify with our enemies and pray for their victory. On this website, we have called them the Fifth Column left. This has made many people on the left angry at us. It is suggested that we lack the proper respect for First Amendment rights and values and that accusing dissenters and opponents of the war of betraying this country has a chilling effect on speech. It certainly does, but it is also the case that real traitors hide behind free speech rights and that ideas do have consequences.
In fact, we have never accused critics of the war of being members of a Fifth Column or traitors for opposing the war. We have always been specific in identifying those opponents (and only those opponents) who attack America and its leaders in irrational and and apocalyptic terms, and those opponents who are members of self-styled revolutionary parties who identify with America's enemies like Communist North Korea. "Dissenters" who are willing to break the law and tie up Homeland Security forces during a high terror alert also identify themselves as enemies of America and its people, since they are prepared to endanger their fellow citizens' lives and to actively aid and abet an enemy force.
Examples of irrational and apolocalyptic hatred are easy to come by. "Bush is the disease. Death is the cure" is example taken from a Los Angeles demonstration against the war. We live in a democracy, where the people are sovereign and elect their leaders. Calling for death to the President, or revolution for that matter, are signals of criminal intention, and need to be taken as such. "We Support Our Troops When They Shoot Their Officers" -- a banner paraded at an illegal demonstration in San Francisco -- is another sign of criminal and treasonous intent. Those who participate in illegal efforts to sabotage homeland defense, and who proclaim irrational hatred of America and its leaders are telling us something it is important that we hear. They are telling us who they are. They are telling us that they are at war, and that we are their enemy. They deserve to be taken seriously, not for their sake, but for ours.
The media is on the side of the terrorists.
Peter Jennings, who is always eager to defend Islamic terrorists,
gives away factoids of US weapons' limitations during battle
and the position of US forces to their enemies anytime.
HEY, PETER JENNINGS, WHAT THIS TIME DID YOU SAY
HOW MANY AMERICAN PATRIOTS HAVE YOU HURT TODAY?
I suspect that there was some fear that taking them seriously (i.e., giving them what they deserve in terms of police and legal treatment) would merely call more attention to them and even encourage the moderate left to become more extreme out of sympathy. But it is apparent that just ignoring them has only made them bolder, and I think it's about time to take this problem seriously.
Someone commented on another thread that Ashcroft probably has more important things to worry about right now, which is true. But we have many existing laws that cover the kind of things these people are doing, and all we need is the institutional (police and justice system) will to enforce them.
What's important now is to act against those who inspired Akbar's deed, including -- I imagine -- the Wahhabi chaplains in the military.
Can't Farkhan's US citizenship be revoked at least? Couldn't he exile in some Islamic country since his loyalties are with them?
Muslim are at the top in the FBI and our Government thanks to Affirmative Action
The first time was in Desert Storm. The man who tried to kill his peers was John Allen Williams, aka John Allen Mohammad, the DC sniper. "...[John Muhammad] Williams’s unit was sent to Operation Desert Storm to clear mines and bulldoze holes in enemy lines. A few nights before the invasion of Iraq, Sergeant Berentson awoke in the early hours to find his tent, with 16 sleeping men inside, on fire. Someone had tossed in a thermite grenade. Berentson, who was fed up with Williams’s insubordination, immediately suspected Williams and told the Army’s Criminal Investigative Division. Berentson says he last saw Williams being led away in handcuffs. Williams’s military records make no mention of the incident; indeed, they suggest Williams had a distinguished gulf-war stint. But Berentson always kept Williams’s name and dog-tag number in his wallet. He says he was not surprised to see Williams’s face on television..."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't osama bin ladin also be characterized as a frustrated engineer?
From World Net Daily
BLACK-GOLD BLUES
U.S.-Saudi oil imports
fund American mosques
Hijackers' homeland has pumped millions into some of largest Islamic centers here
Posted: April 22, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Paul Sperry
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
Every time you fill up your tank, you may be helping to finance an Islamic mosque in America.
If that sounds far-fetched, consider this:
Some of the largest mosques and Islamic centers in America are funded by the royal government of Saudi Arabia, which gets most of its revenues from oil exports. And America is its biggest customer.
"You certainly can say that U.S. oil purchases end up funding U.S. mosques," said Daniel Pipes, a former State and Defense department official who now heads the Middle East Forum in Philadelphia.
So what? More and more, Saudi is embracing a radical and acutely violent strain of Islam called "Wahhabism," one that is spreading rapidly from its borders. Most of the Saudi people adhere to this increasingly anti-American sect.
Saudi was home to 15 of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers, as well as their leader, Osama bin Laden. And it has been a reluctant ally in America's war on terror. Now federal authorities are investigating whether Saudi laundered money to Islamic terrorist groups through U.S.-based Muslim charities. Some 80 groups have recently received subpoenas for financial records.
Of the more than 1,200 mosques in America, more than 80 percent have been built within the last 20 years – thanks in large part to Saudi money, according to Reza F. Safa, author of "Inside Islam."
"Saudi Arabia alone has spent $87 billion since 1973 to spread Islam throughout the United States and the Western hemisphere," Safa said.
For example, King Fahd of Saudi pledged as much as $8 million to build a new mosque at the site of the Masjid Bilal Islamic Center, the large black mosque in South Central Los Angeles. Last year, Saudi's Islamic Development Bank committed an additional $295,000 for the construction of the Bilal Islamic Primary and Secondary School.
Bilal is just one of many black mosques funded by Saudi. Most of them, including Bilal, are associated with Imam W. Deen Mohammed, head of the Chicago-based Muslim American Society, or MAS, which has been credited with helping convert more than a million U.S. blacks to Islam.
A spokesman for the group said "hundreds of American mosques are associated with" MAS, explaining that each major city has "one main mosque and two or three smaller centers in the suburbs." The Chicago area, for example, has a MAS mosque and three related centers, he says.
Black converts make up the fastest-growing segment of the Muslim population in America.
An estimated 60 to 90 percent of all U.S. converts to Islam are black, Safa says.
"Eighty percent of these converts were raised in the church," he added.
Christianity Today predicts that if the conversion rates continue, Islam could become the dominant religion in black urban areas by 2020.
Nation of Islam
Mohammed originally took over the Nation of Islam after the death of his father, Elijah Muhammad, who founded the group. A rift with Louis Farrakhan, then a rising Nation of Islam star, led him to found MAS, which is considered less radical than Farrakhan's Nation of Islam today.
But Pipes notes that Mohammed has recently been steering MAS toward fundamentalism to cater to the growing number of immigrants attending his mosques.
His for-profit Collective Purchasing Conference, also based in Chicago, sells members orthodox Muslim clothing and "halal" meats butchered according to the Koran, the sacred book of Muslims.
Mohammed's father, Elijah, "hated" the U.S. and celebrated when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Pipes said. He was arrested and served three years in jail for draft evasion.
Though he expressed "shock" at the Sept. 11 terrorism, W. Deen Mohammed didn't categorically condemn the attacks in a statement to MAS members.
That Saudi Arabia is stoking the black Muslim movement in America does not comfort Islam-watchers, given growing resentment of Saudis toward the U.S. – which, as it happens, dovetails with black attitudes, recent polls show.
Sixty-four percent of Saudis have an "unfavorable" view of the U.S., according to a Gallup poll taken December and January, after the terrorist attacks.
That compares with 57 percent of black Muslims who think America is an "immoral society," according to a Zogby International poll taken November and December.
Black attitudes
Like the Saudis, the vast majority of black Muslims oppose U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.
Fully 70 percent, in fact, blame the Sept. 11 attacks on that policy, the Zogby poll says. Echoing Saudis, most black Muslims say America should stop aiding Israel and support a Palestinian state.
Tellingly, the Saudi government prevented Gallup from asking the following questions of its citizens:
- Is U.S. military action in Afghanistan morally justifiable?
- Do you believe news reports that Arabs carried out the Sept. 11 attacks?
- Do you like or dislike President Bush?
Analysts speculate Saudi officials feared the answers would make their country look like it hates its putative ally.
That's actually not far from the truth, judging from recent actions.
Since Sept. 11, Saudi has refused to let the U.S. use its bases as staging areas for military operations in Afghanistan, and now it's saying the bases are off-limits for any military campaign against Iraq.
"We will not accept in our country even a single (American) soldier who will attack Muslims or Arabs," Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan said late last year.
Saudi also has been slow to freeze financial assets of terrorist groups, forcing President Bush to plead for cooperation. (Bush's family and friends have been in business with the Saudi government for years.)
Little known is that Saudis have been accused of involvement in two terrorist attacks on Americans in Saudi Arabia – the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Dharhan, which killed 19 U.S. airmen, and the 1995 bombing of a Riyadh military center that left five Americans dead.
Even less known is that Saudi-born bin Laden had closer links to Saudi intelligence than to the CIA during the Afghan-Soviet war.
During the '80s, he was "effectively working as an arm of Saudi intelligence," said Peter Bergen, author of "Holy War Inc.: Inside the Secret World of Osama bin Laden."
Bin Laden comes from a wealthy and connected Saudi family, as did some of the hijackers.
Still over a barrel
Despite Saudi Arabia's growing anti-American extremism, attempts to reduce U.S. dependence on Saudi oil have fallen flat.
America imports more than half its oil supply, and Saudi is its biggest overseas supplier, shipping more than 1.5 million barrels here a day, according to the American Petroleum Institute. (Canada is actually America's biggest overall foreign supplier.)
API and the Energy Department don’t break out U.S. purchases of Saudi crude by oil-and-gas company. But of household names, Shell Oil buys the least Persian Gulf (of which Saudi is the largest producer) oil, Energy says. Chevron, Exxon and Amoco buy the most.
Last week, Senate Democrats and a handful of eco-friendly Republicans killed a proposal in Bush's energy plan to open up the Alaskan wilderness reserve to oil drilling. Curiously, the initiative went down without much more than a whimper from the White House.
Opening up the area to exploration would produce an estimated 6 billion to 16 billion additional barrels of domestic crude – potentially replacing all of what America imports from the Saudis for the next 30 years, according to the National Center for Public Policy Research.
That would, in turn, dry up some major Saudi money for mosques and the spreading of Islamism in America.
With the defeat of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge drilling bill, Alaskan caribou are safe. Question is, are Americans?
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Not just black muslims, I'm afraid. Have a look over here:
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Number=515332&page=&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&vc=1&t=0#Post515332
Anyone know if Horowitz lurks here? These critters need major exposure.
Indeed he could be. ...and Hitler a "frustrated artist," and Castro a "frustrated baseball player," and Clinton a "not-so-frustrated rapist."
No religion in schools, No religion in prisons!
America's black Muslims close a rift
Louis Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam" edges closer to orthodox Islam
By Daniel B. Wood
W. Deen Mohammed (in light jacket) and Louis Farrakhan (glasses and bow tie) - stood together in February 2000 in a move aimed at healing rivalry between their groups.
LOS ANGELES - When Imam W. Deen Mohammed ascends a wooden podium at the Los Angeles Convention Center here tomorrow, the gaze of 20,000 Nation of Islam faithful will rest upon his countenance for Friday prayer. The proceeding, an orthodox Islamic ritual known as Jummah, will mark an important milestone for the famously radical group headed by Louis Farrakhan..........
Where is ole' Louy now and what has he been saying this past week?
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