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Columbia professor's anti-U.S. military call...
CNN.com ^ | 03/28/2003 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/28/2003 4:12:11 PM PST by Paos

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEW YORK (AP) -- A Columbia University professor told an anti-war gathering that he would like to see "a million Mogadishus" -- referring to the 1993 ambush in Somalia that killed 18 American servicemen.

At Wednesday night's "teach-in" on the Columbia campus, Nicholas De Genova also called for the defeat of U.S. forces in Iraq and said, "The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military." And he asserted that Americans who call themselves "patriots" are white supremacists.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anarchist; antiamerican; columbia; columbiau; communist; ericfoner; highereducation; iraq; iraqifreedom; millionmogadishus; nicholasdegenova; sedition; traitor
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To: Paos
35 year old puke. I wonder if he'll make 36
2 posted on 03/28/2003 4:16:35 PM PST by shadeaud (.)
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To: Paos
I feel a FReep coming....
3 posted on 03/28/2003 4:17:46 PM PST by clintonh8r (You can have no better friend and no worse enemy than a U.S. Marine.)
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To: Paos
Take your kids out of Columbia!!
4 posted on 03/28/2003 4:19:07 PM PST by noutopia
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To: Paos
You know I'll bet the Marines and Army would like to see a bunch of Mogadishus in one place too. So they could kick their asses off this planet.
5 posted on 03/28/2003 4:21:35 PM PST by Rockiesrider
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To: shadeaud
MY DISGUST LIMITS MY WORDS.
6 posted on 03/28/2003 4:21:53 PM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: shadeaud
"History professor Eric Foner" is an old-line Marxist agitator. The only thing he probably regrets is that this punk spoke out a little too openly.

Sorry to be addressing you, but it looks as if the moderator has eliminated the first post, so I guess you've inherited the job.
7 posted on 03/28/2003 4:23:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Paos
If a Columbia University professor said that he wished that a black civil rights leader would be murdered by the KKK, the professor would be fired in 2 minutes. His life would also be threatened by the "tolerant" Left. Why are Leftists allowed to spit in our faces with impunity?
8 posted on 03/28/2003 4:23:58 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY (((Anti-Antiwar DemonTraitor)))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Because we're too polite. For now.
9 posted on 03/28/2003 4:25:02 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Agree 100%.
10 posted on 03/28/2003 4:25:40 PM PST by noutopia
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To: shadeaud
He wants more Mogadishus, fine bring it on. As I recall 100 SpecOP Forces and Rangers kicked the sh*t out of an entire city.
11 posted on 03/28/2003 4:26:19 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: shadeaud
npd18@columbia.edu

12 posted on 03/28/2003 4:28:36 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Paos
NICHOLAS DE GENOVA- npd18@columbia.edu
13 posted on 03/28/2003 4:28:49 PM PST by sgiant
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To: Paos
thank you...sent this MOGADISHUS MORON THE FOLLOWING EMAIL:

NICHOLAS PAUL DE GENOVA

Concerning your statement -- "I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus" . What kind of human being are you , that you would like to see the death of anyone in the American Military. If you do not like this Country, and those that defend your right to express such sentiment, why don't you go live in Mogadishus. You are not fit to wipe the boots of one of our Military.

What is with calling our Military ..white supremacist? You do not sound smart enough to be teaching at any University in this Countryor even one in Mogadishus. You should spend some time with the military, and notice the makeup of our soliders. Obviously, you have not reached the "mountain top" yet.

You are a stupid idiot, and what a shame that one American has to sit in your class room and listen to your dribble.

14 posted on 03/28/2003 4:29:54 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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15 posted on 03/28/2003 4:31:24 PM PST by Mr_Magoo (Single, available, and easy)
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To: Quix
yeah pardon my French but F- him and his ivy tower ilk.
16 posted on 03/28/2003 4:32:29 PM PST by rageaholic
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To: Paos
Columbia
17 posted on 03/28/2003 4:35:03 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: rageaholic
F- him and his ivy tower ilk.

Here's another one for the hangman's noose.

18 posted on 03/28/2003 4:36:53 PM PST by Euro-American Scum
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To: clintonh8r
I freeped! As an educator for 32 years, I took him to task about the responsibilty of the educator. The young mind is too idealistic and vulnerable to hear such rubbish. An educator has no right to speak as he did in public, in the classroom or anywhere else in a public venue. Obviously this person has another agenda. He leans so far left that the scale is tilted. He deserves to have his little knuckles rapped by the university and other appalled Americans. I'd like to see him "removed" from the staff.
19 posted on 03/28/2003 4:38:10 PM PST by jcmfreedom
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To: shadeaud
History professor Eric Foner, who helped organize the teach-in and spoke after De Genova, said Friday, "I disagreed strongly and I said so. If I had known what he was going to say I would have been reluctant to have him speak."

I believe Foner is a Communist. He admits he was raised in a "Communist-oriented" family.

20 posted on 03/28/2003 4:38:20 PM PST by aristeides
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To: shadeaud
Somebody please let the Professor know that I can't get him a million Mogadishus but I wouldn't mind making him the main attraction and central figure of one more.
21 posted on 03/28/2003 4:41:24 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: jackbill
Nicholas De Genova

Faculty Fellow, Anthropology/Latino Studies

E-mail: npd18@columbia.edu

Nicholas De Genova is Assistant Professor in the Department of Anthropology and the Program in Latina/o Studies at Columbia University. He was previously Acting Assistant Professor in the Department of Cultural and Social Anthropology at Stanford University. He received his Ph.D. in Anthropology from the University of Chicago. His ethnographic research explored the social productions of racialized and spatialized difference in the experiences of transnational Mexican migrant workers in Chicago.

De Genova is currently completing two book projects, one entitled Working the Boundaries: Race, Space, and "Illegality" in Mexican Chicago (forthcoming, Duke University Press), and a second co-authored work (with Ana Yolanda Ramos-Zayas) entitled Latino Optics: Racialization and Citizenship Between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans in Chicago (forthcoming, Routledge). He has previously published in Social Text, Transition, Public Culture, Anthropology and Humanism, Annual Review of Anthropology, and Latin American Perspectives, and has an article forthcoming in the Journal of Latin American Anthropology.

22 posted on 03/28/2003 4:42:33 PM PST by MikalM
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To: shadeaud
Any of our tax dollars going to Columbia University?
23 posted on 03/28/2003 4:43:55 PM PST by abclily
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To: MikalM
Sounds like the standard CV of an AtzlaNazi race hustler. Just the type of person who'd spew such sick, seditious poison.
24 posted on 03/28/2003 4:44:09 PM PST by MikalM
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To: jackbill
Can someone find and email of the right person to email at Columbia, besides this mogadishu moron.
25 posted on 03/28/2003 4:46:28 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: All
From http://culpa.procrastinationstation.com/classsearch.php4?classname=Latino+History+and+Culture

Nicholas De Genova [search for this prof in CU directory of classes]
Latino Studies
Click here to review this professor
(http://culpa.procrastinationstation.com/submit.php4?first_name=Nicholas&last_name=De%20Genova&dept_name=)

Latino History and Culture
December 2001
Click here to see other reviews (2 more) of this professor
De Genova is a timid, quiet speaker, but still an interesting one who encourages discussion. The readings give an excellent background on Latino History, although they are sometimes slightly biased in the leftist direction. Attendance isn`t really necessary for success in the class.

Workload: one midterm (5-7 page essay, graded generously), 10-12 page final paper, no final exam.

26 posted on 03/28/2003 4:51:49 PM PST by hnorris
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NICHOLAS PAUL DE GENOVA

You are not fit to be serve as toilet paper for the American Military. But I'm sure that is the only practical use for you.

Henry Norris
Raleigh, NC
27 posted on 03/28/2003 4:52:44 PM PST by hnorris
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To: Paos
And another hundred Democrats switch to the Republican Party. Keep up with these statements, Mr. Liberal.
28 posted on 03/28/2003 4:56:39 PM PST by Mark (Treason doeth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: jcmfreedom
"The young mind is too idealistic and vulnerable to hear such rubbish"

Yes, and the communist know this. They just don't consider it rubbish. To them, it is the key to victory.
I was only 14 when the Communist took over Cuba, but I remember their first priority was to take control of the education system. I think the same was true in Nicaragua.
Kids from age 5 were given wooden guns and taught to hate America. It takes just a few years to indoctrinate a young mind.
From my observation, they worked their way into the US education system in the late 60s, and it has been downhill from then.
Public schools and the University community have become a cesspool of hate America.
It is so sad that parents have yet to see what is happening, and they still send their kids off to these centers of leftist indoctrination.
29 posted on 03/28/2003 5:02:13 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Mr_Magoo
LOL!
I wish I had a printer at home!
30 posted on 03/28/2003 5:03:51 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: shadeaud
Hello! This is treason people! Why hasn't this man been shot yet?
31 posted on 03/28/2003 5:18:17 PM PST by Norse
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To: shadeaud
I am constantly surprised by the restraint of the American conservative. Wish that I could share in that restraint. If I find myself within range of this scumbag, well, let's just say that I hope that he kissed his mother goodby earlier in the day. Enough is enough. I've taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. If this POS does not count as a domestic enemy, THEN NOTHING DOES...
32 posted on 03/28/2003 5:18:50 PM PST by DonPaulJonesII
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To: rageaholic
I'm a professor, too.

He's a disgrace to . . .

--humanity
--animals with 4 limbs
--his parents
--his country
--his university

maybe his own mirror winces when it hears his footsteps.

maybe he has slug spit for brains.

33 posted on 03/28/2003 5:21:48 PM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: shadeaud
The SOB is probably crawled up under a rock somewhere.
34 posted on 03/28/2003 5:28:29 PM PST by caisson71
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To: AlexW
Good points. Arafat did the same thing on the West Bank. Under his direction, the eductional system put into place a doctrine of hate into the school system, including the textbooks.

The left has been in bed with Muslims for decades--they were in bed with the Nazis in World War II. What many people forget is that Nazism and Fascism are simply forms of socialism. And socialism is Marxism, which has in its foundations anti-semitism, along with anti-capitalism of course. No wonder the left doesn't want us in Iraq--they support the socialist Ba'ath party.

Just tonight on TV I heard Muslim Americans in Detroit decrying the war in Iraq because "Muslims" should not fight other Muslims. This is dangerous thinking. People who put their religion above their country cannot and will not be loyal to America.

Anyone who is moderate or conservative must refuse to contribute any money at all to Universities or colleges which employ professors who preach hatred against the USA.

And with the public school system, parents must get involved and demand a curriculum and staff that is not a fifth column attack on America.

God Help us. Its not too late. But the clock is ticking.


35 posted on 03/28/2003 5:28:37 PM PST by FirstTomato ("In the end,We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" M L King)
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To: shadeaud
He said De Genova was a last-minute invitee, was just one of about 25 speakers and "did not represent the general tone of the event, which was highly educational.

Then why is nobody talking about anything be De Genova?

36 posted on 03/28/2003 5:30:30 PM PST by Timesink (If you use the word "embedded" in a conversation, you'd better be carrying an x-ray to show me.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Paos signed up 2003-03-29.

How did he sign up tomorrow?

37 posted on 03/28/2003 5:31:23 PM PST by Timesink (If you use the word "embedded" in a conversation, you'd better be carrying an x-ray to show me.)
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To: Ajnin
There were like 500 or more people of Mogadishus killed in this incident. Is this professor calling for the deaths of 500+ million black people? Has Jesse or Al heard about this?
38 posted on 03/28/2003 5:40:03 PM PST by Starstruck
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To: noutopia
Prof De Genova's comments are worse than presented here. He equates patriotism with genocide and white nationalism.
A liberal Columbia Student wrote this account for the Columbia Spectator.

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/03/27/3e82ec7193097?in_archive=1

The good news is that Columbia's students are split about 50-50. http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/SEC/War+in+Iraq
There will be a pro-war rally at Columbia on Wednesday at 12:15. The location is Low Plaza, which is 116th street between Amsterdam and Broadway It is open to students from around the metropolitan area.

The CU College Republicans, Columbia College Conservative Club, and Students United for America are sponsoring the rally.

Cordially,
Ron Lewenberg,
Founder, CCCC
President 1999-2001

39 posted on 03/28/2003 5:41:08 PM PST by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Timesink
Paos signed up 2003-03-29.

How did he sign up tomorrow?

Methinks its tomorrow in the Middle East . . .

40 posted on 03/28/2003 5:41:09 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: shadeaud
Here is what one student had to say about him:

"I lost all respect for this man as an academic when he said this spring that Jews no longer have any claim to the heritage of the Holocaust because of Israeli policy towards Palestinians. While at first this seems like a personal attack on my part, it is an academic criticism, and here`s why. Professors are responsible for taking ideas and analyzing them, cutting them down to their roots and components, no matter how simple those ideas are at the surface. De Genova does the reverse: he takes the Mideast Conflict, a sophisticated topic by any standards (even those outspoken Palestinian advocates like Professor Massad) and simplifies it by comparing Israeli policy to Nazi policy. Furthermore, he does so despite the fact that he is not an expert in this area, but rather in Latin American studies. In my view, that makes de Genova an irresponsible and unsophisticated academic. I won`t take his classes now, but not because I don`t like him or even because I disagree with him, but because I don`t trust him to give me a complete, fully-analyzed picture of the issues."

Read more reviews of this a-hole here.
41 posted on 03/28/2003 6:03:10 PM PST by bdeaner
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To: jcmfreedom
I'd like to see him "removed" from the staff.

I'd like to see him "removed".

42 posted on 03/28/2003 6:03:39 PM PST by John Valentine (Writing from downtown Seoul, keeping an eye on the hills to the north.)
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To: rmlew
Ron Lewenberg and Columbia College Conservative Club, may the force be with you!!!
43 posted on 03/28/2003 7:26:00 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: shadeaud
WHAAAAAAAT?
44 posted on 03/28/2003 10:17:45 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: clintonh8r
Name: NICHOLAS PAUL DE GENOVA
Title: ASST PROF
Dept: ANTHROPOLOGY
Mail Addr: DEPT OF ANTHROPOLOGY
416 HAMILTON
mail code 2880
Phone: MS 4-0199
+1 212-854-0199
Fax: +1 212-854-0500
UNI: npd18
EMail: npd18@columbia.edu



And the President of Columbia University:

Name: LEE C BOLLINGER
Title: PRESIDENT PROFESSOR
Dept: OFFICE OF PRESIDENT
SCHOOL OF LAW
Mail Addr: 202 LOW LIBRARY
mail code 4309
Phone: MS 4-9970
+1 212-854-9970
UNI: lcb50
EMail: bollinger@columbia.edu


From: http://www.columbia.edu/

Columbia University in the City of New York
2960 Broadway
New York, NY 10027-6902
(212) 854-1754



45 posted on 03/28/2003 10:50:53 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: abclily
Excellent point. Some other college is having it's federal tax dollars audited and threatened by Congress because a teacher is teaching a porn class with pictures of children's privates. Maybe Congress should take up Columbia's federal funding.

Which congresscritter should we tap for the job? Seems the way the silent majority is buffeting around the peace movement, there should be no shortage of polititians on all sides looking to jump on board.

Damn, where is Bob Barr when we need him?
46 posted on 03/28/2003 10:54:17 PM PST by JMack
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To: rmlew
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/03/27/3e82ec7193097?in_archive=1

Thanks for the link. This De Genova guy is beyond despicable. Here is an excerpt from the article, the link to which you posted, for those who may not take the trouble to click on the link:

Excerpt:
"One of the most divisive issue among the participants was patriotism. An exchange over the subject was sparked by Nicholas DeGenova, a professor of anthropology who was a last-minute addition to the program.

"Peace is not patriotic," DeGenova began. "Peace is subversive, because peace anticipates a very different world than the one in which we live--a world where the U.S. would have no place."

"U.S. patriotism is inseparable from imperial warfare and white supremacy," he said. "U.S. flags are the emblem of the invading war machine in Iraq today. They are the emblem of the occupying power. The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military."

Between DeGenova's condemnation of patriotism and his call for "fragging"--"I wish," he said, "for a million Mogadishus"--his speech provoked many of the professors who spoke later in the night to assert their disagreement."

47 posted on 03/28/2003 10:56:16 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: shadeaud
Click here to review this professor.
48 posted on 03/28/2003 11:01:16 PM PST by Kay Soze (France - "The country where the worms live above ground")
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To: shadeaud; photogirl
This guy is retarded, he's going to get a million messages from Marines in Okinawa if I have anything to say about it :)
49 posted on 03/28/2003 11:28:37 PM PST by Mystix (I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts doodlydo, all in a row. Aww come on put saddams head back.)
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To: Mystix
What a freak
50 posted on 03/28/2003 11:31:08 PM PST by photogirl (SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!)
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