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Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
Weekly Standard (via Matt Drudge) ^
| April 17, 2003
| SB00
Posted on 04/17/2003 9:36:31 AM PDT by SB00
TOM DASCHLE may no longer call himself a Catholic. The Senate minority leader and the highest ranking Democrat in Washington has been sent a letter by his home diocese of Sioux Falls, sources in South Dakota have told The Weekly Standard, directing him to remove from his congressional biography and campaign documents all references to his standing as a member of the Catholic Church.
This isn't exactly excommunication--which is unnecessary, in any case, since Daschle made himself ineligible for communion almost 20 years ago with his divorce and remarriage to a Washington lobbyist. The directive from Sioux Falls' Bishop Robert Carlson is rather something less than excommunication--and, at the same time, something more: a declaration that Tom Daschle's religious identification constitutes, in technical Catholic vocabulary, a grave public scandal. He was brought up as a Catholic, and he may still be in some sort of genuine mental and spiritual relation to the Church. Who besides his confessor could say? But Daschle's consistent political opposition to Catholic teachings on moral issues--abortion, in particular--has made him such a problem for ordinary churchgoers that the Church must deny him the use of the word "Catholic."
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; daschle
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:36:31 AM PDT
by
SB00
To: SB00
Hahahaha
Well, let that be a sign to anyone who says the catholic church won't clean up its act. Getting rid of Daschle is a start! ;)
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:38:04 AM PDT
by
CaptainJustice
(Dangerous Jesus Lover)
To: SB00
FYI: He's a French-Catholic at that! So, being disengenuous and two-faced really is part of his heritage.
3
posted on
04/17/2003 9:38:26 AM PDT
by
keithtoo
To: SB00
Does Teddy K. get a pass?
4
posted on
04/17/2003 9:40:33 AM PDT
by
Grit
(Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
To: Grit
Does Teddy K. get a pass?Deeper pockets..
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:41:47 AM PDT
by
TomServo
To: SB00; AdA$tra; jwalsh07
Catholic ping (I know there are more but you were the only two I could think of right now.)
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:42:20 AM PDT
by
RAT Patrol
(Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
To: keithtoo
About time the Catholic Church began to exhibit the same moral standards and values as the precepts they teach and that are upheld by their true members.
7
posted on
04/17/2003 9:44:07 AM PDT
by
chit*chat
To: xsmommy
* ping
8
posted on
04/17/2003 9:44:16 AM PDT
by
CholeraJoe
(Standing tough under Stars and Stripes)
To: SB00
Man, he must be really bad if the church sees him as a non-repentant sinner. Washington, take note...Constituents take note!
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:44:37 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
To: SB00
Thank you, Bishop Carlson. This may just put more people back into the churches as this hypocrisy comes to an end.
10
posted on
04/17/2003 9:45:14 AM PDT
by
Digger
To: TomServo
Does Teddy K. get a pass? Deeper pockets..
Make no mistake about it. Carlson has thrown down a gauntlet, and ordinary Catholics are going to be asking about Kennedy, and Mikulski, and Pelosi.
What's more, they're going to be asking their bishops why they don't do what Carlson has done to these public figures.
Things could get very interesting for Catholic Democrats.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:45:47 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: TomServo
Gotcha.
Gray Davis doesn't get a pass evidently:
Bishop William Weigand of Sacramento was the first American bishop to use the new note from Rome. At a pro-life Mass on January 22, he spoke of California Governor Gray Davis's claim to be a "pro-choice Catholic."
After describing the efforts by Davis's pastor to get the governor to see the moral incoherence of his position, Weigand declared, "As your bishop, I have to say clearly that anyone--politician or otherwise--who thinks it is acceptable for a Catholic to be pro-abortion is in very great error, puts his or her soul at risk, and is not in good standing with the Church. Such a person should have the integrity to acknowledge this and choose of his own volition to abstain from receiving Holy Communion until he has a change of heart."
Russ Lopez, a spokesman for Davis, responded with the hilarious and deeply revealing complaint that Bishop Weigand was "telling the faithful how to practice their faith."
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:45:52 AM PDT
by
Grit
(Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
To: RAT Patrol
Bravo! Every time a good steward does what is right, we ought to applaud it, because it's a sure bet that every other failure is splayed across the press! I must confess, I'm not 'deeply saddened' for the little spittlebug.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:45:57 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
To: cyncooper
Well, lookee here!
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:46:17 AM PDT
by
EllaMinnow
(Desperately in search of a new tagline...)
To: Grit
Talk to Teddys' Bishop. The swimmer has already excommunicated himself latae sententiae.
To: yendu bwam
Are you Catholic, yb? (Where have you been, anyway?)
16
posted on
04/17/2003 9:46:50 AM PDT
by
RAT Patrol
(Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
To: chit*chat
About time the Catholic Church Especially seeing how long they drug their collective feet in dealing with pedophile priests.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:47:25 AM PDT
by
A2J
(Daschle is a poo-poo head.)
To: CholeraJoe
good deal! i didn't even know he considered himself to be a token catholic.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:47:42 AM PDT
by
xsmommy
To: SB00
Diane Feinstein's next!
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:47:54 AM PDT
by
Revolting cat!
(Subvert the dominant cliche!)
To: MHGinTN
I'm not 'deeply saddened' for the little spittlebug. LOL!
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:48:02 AM PDT
by
RAT Patrol
(Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
To: *Catholic_list
Ping
To: Digger
Something interesting is going on here. Didn't another Bishop recently take action against Governor Davis in California? I think this shows a major policy shift by Bishops who to date have been unwilling to address these so-called Catholics. All in all I am very encouraged by this developmeny.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:48:59 AM PDT
by
lawdave
To: SB00
In further developments, Hell notified him that he's a Demon in good standing.
To: ArrogantBustard; Ronaldus Magnus; onedoug; sitetest; sinkspur; Desdemona; american colleen; ...
Bumping. Let me know if you want on or off the list. Click my screen name for a description.
patent +AMDG
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:53:12 AM PDT
by
patent
(A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
To: redlipstick
Oh, my goodness!
Tiny Tommy taken to task.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:53:17 AM PDT
by
cyncooper
(thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")
To: SB00
He is in Sioux Falls today and the whole town is buzzing big time about this. Awesome!!!
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:54:44 AM PDT
by
SoDak
To: xsmommy
When it's time to campaign he is. He plays up his church ties then, and only then.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:55:48 AM PDT
by
SoDak
To: SB00
How far can a person go with the word "but"?
I am a Catholic, but I am in favor of abortion?
I support the troops, but I will criticize the commander-in-chief during a time of war?
How many 'buts' does it take before hypocrisy is rampant and we can't believe anything that is being said?
To: SoDak
Oh, tell! What are they saying?
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:56:15 AM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Coleus
Ping
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:57:16 AM PDT
by
MattinNJ
To: SB00
I'm sure that Tommy the Tiny Tyrant(tm) is saddened, SADDENED by all of this.
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:57:23 AM PDT
by
Spiff
To: Revolting cat!
I think Feinswine is Jewish, no?
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posted on
04/17/2003 9:58:15 AM PDT
by
kylaka
To: Howlin
For one, the story is being e-mailed around my company today. And our local radio talk shows are already promoting discussions of it this afternoon.
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:00:31 AM PDT
by
SoDak
To: SoDak
Way cool. I hope nobody forgets!
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:01:18 AM PDT
by
Howlin
To: SB00
Only Bishop's with courage will follow suit.
As with all good men, we need more of them.
(see tag below)
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:01:23 AM PDT
by
G Larry
($10K gifts to John Thune before he announces!)
To: SB00
More empirical proof that there is a God !
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:02:49 AM PDT
by
pbear8
( sed libera nos a malo)
To: SB00
This isn't exactly excommunication--which is unnecessary, in any case, since Daschle made himself ineligible for communion almost 20 years ago with his divorce and remarriage to a Washington lobbyist.
I particularly like the way the author slips in, almost as an afterthought. the fact that divorced and remarried Catholics should not receive communion. That should ruffle a few feathers.
To: SB00
Maybe his is Catholic-Light.
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:03:48 AM PDT
by
MJM59
To: eastsider
Is it still the case that they should not receive communion? My father's marriage to my mother has never been annulled, yet he and his new wife joined a parish, and receive communion every week.
To: SB00
I'm deeply saddened to hear little Tommy is a bigamist.
To: SB00
Wow! The Catholic Church disowning a public figure (even a bad one like D'asshole) starts a seed of respect for the church.
To: CFIIIMEIATP737
How many 'buts' does it take before hypocrisy is rampant and we can't believe anything that is being said? I don't know. How many "butts" are in the Democrat Party?
To: Revolting cat!
Diane Feinstein's next!Don't forget Lieberman...
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:07:43 AM PDT
by
bruin66
To: SB00; MattinNJ; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ..
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:08:26 AM PDT
by
Coleus
(RU-486 Kills Babies)
To: SB00
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:09:30 AM PDT
by
\/\/ayne
To: SB00
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:10:20 AM PDT
by
Coleus
(RU-486 Kills Babies)
To: xsmommy
PING!!!!!
47
posted on
04/17/2003 10:11:17 AM PDT
by
hobbes1
( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: hobbes1
couldn't happen to a nicer midget....
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:11:41 AM PDT
by
xsmommy
To: \/\/ayne
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:12:03 AM PDT
by
Coleus
(RU-486 Kills Babies)
To: hobbes1
PONG!
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:12:26 AM PDT
by
Robert A. Cook, PE
(I support FR monthly; and ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
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