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Air Force, Central Command set war trophy policy
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| 04/21/03
| Master Sgt. Scott Elliott
Posted on 04/21/2003 1:56:49 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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I think the title is a bit misleading. It looks to me like the authorities are reiterating a current policy, not making a new one.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I'll bet a few of Saddam's gold plated guns will end up in some General's private collections.
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posted on
04/21/2003 2:01:45 PM PDT
by
Paraclete
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
What about Saddam's femur?
To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
What about Saddam's femur? Well, it was designed for an individual's use...
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posted on
04/21/2003 2:12:44 PM PDT
by
Textide
To: Textide
It's obviously lacking in much military value!
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
How many hundreds of millions of dollars did they find in that one house?
I hate to say this, but somewhere down the line, some of those dollars are likely to go missing.
To: Paraclete
Maybe, but I seem to recall a general geing court-marshalled after GW I due to his illegal transportation of war contraband. They don't tolerate pillage and plunder anymore.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Weapons that emit gas.
Darn! I guess that leaves out Baghdad Bob.
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posted on
04/21/2003 2:23:51 PM PDT
by
Wolfstar
(Now to turn our attention to the reelection of a great President.)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Think again.
Once upon a time, guns warn't skeery to most folks.
Bringing weapons home was commonplace after the First and Second World Wars. Even Class IIIs (full auto).
There's a passage in Unintended Consequences that discusses this.
To: Paraclete
I was hoping one would wind up in Dubya's presidential library some day. It would be worth a trip from Los Angeles to Texas (probably Austin) to see that.
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posted on
04/21/2003 2:24:57 PM PDT
by
Wolfstar
(Now to turn our attention to the reelection of a great President.)
To: sharktrager
I would like to think that some of that money stashed in Saddam's palace has been "liberated" by U.S. troops. That would be one way to afford the $96 cases of beer now for sale in the streets of Baghdad.
Personally, I do not see anything wrong with a member of the armed services claiming an Iraqi "firearm" as a souvenir. In most cases, I would presume that such firearms would be unused and in pristine condition. Well, about as pristine as something can be in Iraq.
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posted on
04/21/2003 2:26:36 PM PDT
by
SamAdams76
(California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
To: sharktrager
How many hundreds of millions of dollars did they find in that one house? 320 million dollars. It was contained in 80 metal boxes that each had 4 million dollars, all in used 100 dollar bills.
Who knows how much more is out there?
To: Norman Arbuthnot
Hey, those are designed for individual issue!
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posted on
04/21/2003 3:06:26 PM PDT
by
no-s
To: SamAdams76
Personally, I do not see anything wrong with a member of the armed services claiming an Iraqi "firearm" as a souvenir. "Rewards are necessary in order to make the soldiers see the advantage of beating the enemy; thus, when you capture spoils from the enemy, they must be used as rewards, so that all your men may have a keen desire to fight, each on his own account." - Sun Tzu
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posted on
04/21/2003 3:07:44 PM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
If taking of the following is one of the illegals, then why are the Clintons in jail?
Property belonging to the United States or an allied nation.
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posted on
04/21/2003 3:10:09 PM PDT
by
UpToHere
To: UpToHere
If taking of the following is one of the illegals, then why are the Clintons in jail? Oh that it were so!
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posted on
04/21/2003 3:18:05 PM PDT
by
Plutarch
To: Textide
Darn....
To: AAABEST
"Rewards are necessary in order to make the soldiers see the advantage of beating the enemy; thus, when you capture spoils from the enemy, they must be used as rewards, so that all your men may have a keen desire to fight, each on his own account." - Sun Tzu
Good idea ! Let's let them rape the women and sell the chidren into slavery too !
(Of all the quotes from The Art of War - to pick the one least applicable to today's American Military ... scheeze..)
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:03:29 PM PDT
by
RS
To: RS
Good idea ! Let's let them rape the women and sell the chidren into slavery too ! (Of all the quotes from The Art of War - to pick the one least applicable to today's American Military ... scheeze..) I didn't say anything about raping women or selling children, neither does Sun Tzu so I have no idea what you're talking about. It's very "applicable", especially since the title of the thread is "Air Force, Central Command set war trophy policy".
We used to allow soldiers to keep guns and all kinds of booty. Now we're court martialing them, which is asinine and very inappropriate considering he risked his life to accomplish the mission.
In GW-I the Saudis wanted to reward us with money, but of course our stupid ass chain of command turned them down stating that it wouldn't look right and instead issued some guys Article 15s for having "contraband". Not good for moral or re-enlistment incentives.
Note: Generals get to keep whatever they want. "Do as I say, not as a leader does" syndrome. "Sheeze" my ass.
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:13:12 PM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: RS; AAABEST
I agree with Sun Tzu that rewards are a good idea -- only we now give ribbons and patches for overseas service and for combat service. I think these have more value to most troops than whatever they might take from the enemy.
No one should be too sure that General Officers get to avoid the policies. Remember Grenada and Admiral Metcalf? I can tell you that today's Generals and Admirals do. And they don't want their whole career to come to an abrupt and ignomious end like Adm. Metcalf, who tried to bring back an authorized trophy.
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