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WHO or WHOM? A 90% Trick
Self | 30APR03 | bannie

Posted on 04/30/2003 6:15:29 PM PDT by bannie

In a recent thread, we discussed teachers' various abilities/inabilities. With the banter about math "blocks," I had to start calling people on the frequent mis-usage of the pronoun "that."

I teased others--and I hope the understood my playful intent! Even true mathematicians can make simple mistakes in math. Likewise, even true grammarians can make simple mistakes in grammar. I only made note because of the subject of the thread (An English teacher who was having trouble passing a required math test).

In the thread, I mentioned that I could give a quick-fix lesson on how to determine whether one should use the pronoun "who" or the pronoun "whom."

The Rule:
WHO = SUBJECTIVE
WHOM = OBJECTIVE
or...
While "who" holds the grammatical position of a SUBJECT, "whom" holds the grammatical position of an OBJECT.
Subject = the "doer." Object = the DIRECT OBJECT or the INDIRECT OBJECT or the OBJECT of a preposition...the "do-ee."

THE TRICK:

IF replacing the who/whom in question with HE--simply because it SOUNDS BETTER--use WHO.

IF replacing the who/whom in question with HIM--simply because it SOUNDS BETTER--use WHOM.

IE:
With the question:

To who/whom should I give the "Offed by a Clinton" Award?

Try replacing the space with each, "he" and "him."
Although it's not totally "sensical," the better sounding choice is...

To HIM should I give...

(more clearly, Should I give the "Offed by a Clinton" award to HIM?
SOOOOOooooo...since "HIM" = "WHOM,"

the correct "who/whom-ness" of the question should be:

To WHOM should I give...?

IE:
Who/Whom was the oldest goat in the pool?

Try replacing the space with each, "he" and "him."

It makes much more sense to the ear to replace the who/whom with:

He was the oldest...

than with:

Him was the oldest...

SOOOOOoooooo....since "HE" = "WHO"...

The answer is...WHO was the oldest goat in the pool?


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KEYWORDS: grammar
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To: SFConservative
I have noticed that when noone is at the door, notwo, nothree, nofour and nofive are often there as well.
121 posted on 04/30/2003 7:58:38 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: SFConservative
Noone must be accident prone. Does he drink?
122 posted on 04/30/2003 7:58:54 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: IronJack
An affect can affect your mood. The effect may cause you to effect a change.
123 posted on 04/30/2003 8:01:05 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: TaxRelief
Noticed that too! In fact, all the way up to nogoogle.
124 posted on 04/30/2003 8:01:17 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: Erasmus
"This is the kind of nonsense up with which I will not put."

This reminds me of an episode of Designing Women. Delta Burke greeted a snobby northern socialite by drawling, "So where are ya'll from?" The woman icily replied, "I am from where one does not end a sentence with a preposition!". Delta never dropped the southern smile, and declared graciously, "I am so sorry, what I meant to say was, where are ya'll from BITCH!"

125 posted on 04/30/2003 8:02:21 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: Ditter
Yeah, like there's notomorrow!
126 posted on 04/30/2003 8:03:03 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: bannie
Who affects the Who's effects?
127 posted on 04/30/2003 8:03:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the conspiracy of inanimate objects!)
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To: firebrand
ping
128 posted on 04/30/2003 8:03:08 PM PDT by nutmeg (USA: Land of the Free - Thanks to the Brave)
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To: TaxRelief
Pray tell, good man, how therefore should it be defined?

hence=from this place
thence=from that place
whence=from what place

and just for good measure--

whither=to what place
thither=to that place
hither=to this place

They're hard to keep track of without some mnemonic device. Any takers?

129 posted on 04/30/2003 8:04:02 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: SFConservative
Personally I have no affinity for noinfinity. It's a good thing noneofthem are at the door.
130 posted on 04/30/2003 8:04:55 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Revolting cat!
A quick quiz:

"There are a lot" or "There is a lot"?
===============

Hummmm.....Let's see:

There are a lot of ducks in the pond.

There is a lot of milk on the floor.

131 posted on 04/30/2003 8:06:58 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Fifth Business
thence=from that time
132 posted on 04/30/2003 8:08:05 PM PDT by TaxRelief (wanna bet $100?)
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To: Fifth Business
How about:

flatulence=from some place

133 posted on 04/30/2003 8:08:53 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: Rocky
"Whoever the person was who wrote this, they need to confess immediately." You can't say "he". That would be sexist.

Of course that is PC bullshirt. But I have known of cases of people who purposely used the incorrect wording to keep from using the correct "he".

134 posted on 04/30/2003 8:10:33 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: yankeedame
There is an odd lot in the warehouse.
135 posted on 04/30/2003 8:10:39 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: VermiciousKnid
Actually, just about the ONLY thing I remember from trig is Chief SohCahToa.

Susan can't tell Oscar has a hard on always.

S = O / H
C = A / H
T = O / A

136 posted on 04/30/2003 8:11:14 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: VermiciousKnid

WHOM, WHOM!

137 posted on 04/30/2003 8:11:17 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: SFConservative
The other odd thing about him is that he always gets hurt in the most minor accidents!

And the reporters don't like him. They keep saying things like, "...but fortunately noone was hurt."

138 posted on 04/30/2003 8:11:35 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: SFConservative
two pence=from my change purse
139 posted on 04/30/2003 8:12:22 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: CharacterCounts
"Good boys do fine always."

Ah, yes. That goes with "All cows eat grass"

140 posted on 04/30/2003 8:12:38 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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