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The Laci Case Gets Weird
CBS News ^ | May 20, 2003 | Andrew Cohen

Posted on 05/21/2003 5:41:36 AM PDT by runningbear

The Laci case gets weird

The Laci Case Gets Weird

May 20, 2003

Laci and Scott Peterson (AP / CBS)

Amber Frey, the "other woman" in Scott Peterson's life, re-emerged Monday looking (and acting) eerily like Paula Jones.

(CBS) Just when it seemed that the Scott Peterson capital murder case finally had settled into a rhythm of sense and stability it exploded into chaos and absurdity. What had been an increasingly orderly procession toward pretrial proceedings devolved instead over the weekend and Monday into a uniquely Californian freak show.

It is as if the Gods of High-Profile Trials have spoken thus: "Laci Peterson's tragic story not interesting enough anymore for you? Fine. We'll throw into the already horrific storyline the specter of Charles Manson and Paula Jones. And we'll add another 'celebrity lawyer' to the mix because, goodness knows, this story doesn't already have enough of them, either involved in the case itself or yakking about it endlessly and often without shame on the cable news shows.

"And, finally, while we are at it," the Gods have added, "we'll add in that most mesmerizing component of all — the heretofore inconceivable concept that there are and ought to be real doubts about whether Scott Peterson actually killed his wife." While it took God six days to make the world, it has taken these lesser deities roughly half that time to remake the Peterson case into the undisputed champion of tabloid trials; this year's granddaddy of them all. Sorry, Robert Blake, but Scott Peterson and his ex-girlfriend are going to get your close-up.

One week ago, by contrast, there was reason to believe that order had been restored to a case that began with a flurry of post-arrest bedlam. Scott Peterson hired a seasoned defense attorney, Mark Geragos, who promptly used his well-practiced media skills to communicate a version of events about his client that countered the official line offered by the police and prosecutors. Now potential jurors weren't just hearing from, say, California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, who unconscionably said on the day of Peterson's arrest that the case against him was a "slam dunk." Now, the jury pool also was hearing (from someone they are used to hearing from on television) that Scott didn't kill Laci after all.

Not only that, but Geragos got Peterson out of his red jail uniform and back into civilian clothes for the many public pre-trial hearings that are to come; a simple but important step toward reasserting Scott Peterson's presumption of innocence. And most importantly, perhaps, Geragos (with the help of reasonable prosecutors) got certain key evidentiary warrants sealed at a time when their public disclosure might have in turn sealed a perception of Peterson's guilt in the minds of many potential jurors. None of Geragos' moves mean that Peterson is innocent or that he will be acquitted of the serious charges against him. But all of them mean that there will be a smart and vigorous defense in a case that desperately needs one.

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CNN LARRY KING LIVE

Analysis of Scott Peterson's Murder Case

CNN LARRY KING LIVE

Analysis of Scott Peterson's Murder Case

Aired May 19, 2003 - 21:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY FOR AMBER FREY: It's my opinion that what she has to say in testimony will be very important to the case.

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LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight: Scott Peterson's other woman, Amber Frey, hires an attorney. And that attorney, Gloria Allred, is here to discuss her new client's impact on the case. Meanwhile, the search for clues to Laci Peterson's murder continued today in San Francisco Bay amidst word of leaks from the sealed autopsy on Laci Peterson's body and reports of a possible Satanic cult connection. We'll go over it all with Ted Rowlands of KTVU, who's covered the story from the beginning, Court TV's Nancy Grace, a former prosecutor, defense attorney Chris Pixley, Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom, attorney from San Francisco, and defense attorney Nancy Luque. They're all next on LARRY KING LIVE.

Guess what? We're all in Washington tonight, save for Gloria Allred, who's in Los Angeles, and Ted Rowlands, who's in Richmond, California.

Let's start with Gloria. We've heard you over the past few hours describe why your client needs an attorney. Now, you have no standing in the court. The prosecutor will question her. The defense attorney will question her. There will be objections to questioning. The judge will allow what goes in and what doesn't go in. Why does she need a lawyer?

ALLRED: Well, she needs a lawyer, Larry, for two reasons. One, she is also a victim, and victims are entitled to lawyers. She's a victim of Scott Peterson's deception. In addition, she is a witness. And her testimony, we think, is going to be important. And I -- I think that...

KING: What does she need a lawyer for?

ALLRED: ... it's likely that there will be attacks on her reputation, on her credibility, by those who have other agendas in the press, in anticipation of her testimony. And her reputation is very important to her, and I intend to do everything possible to protect it.

KING: But what can a lawyer do to prevent an attack? If someone's going to attack her tomorrow or someone's going to attack her in a courtroom, what can a lawyer do, other than after the fact?

ALLRED: Well, I mean, there's no way we can prevent an attack, but certainly, we can respond and make sure that the truth is out there on the public record. And that's what I intend to do. I intend to protect my client.

KING: Was she smart, Nancy, to hire a lawyer?

NANCY LUQUE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think it was a good thing for her to do, once she put herself in the public domain and made herself a public figure and made herself somebody everybody's talking about. But you're right, Larry, I mean, there's nothing she can do sitting in the courtroom. And presumably, we'll get to the truth of what this woman has to say in a courtroom and only in a courtroom.

KING: Nancy Grace, does she need a lawyer?

NANCY GRACE, COURT TV: Well, Larry, we have seen Amber Frey come under a lot of attacks since she came forward, even to the extent of certain people suggesting she's responsible for Laci's kidnapping and murder. It's way off the charts! So I definitely think that Gloria Allred, who's handled a lot of high-profile cases, can help in this matter. However, you're right, Gloria will not have standing in that criminal court of law come murder trial time. And Amber Frey will have to take the slings and arrows of the defense, and they will come on cross-exam.

KING: Chris, does Amber Frey need a lawyer?

CHRIS PIXLEY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, again, you know, the real question is what good comes of having an attorney representing you when you're a witness in a case like this, Larry? I don't really know right now if -- that there's really any reason. We have not heard from this defense team that they are focusing on Amber Frey. Amber was cleared by the police very early on in the case. So it's almost begging the press to come kind of sniffing at your door for more evidence about Amber by hiring an attorney.

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Coincidental Deaths?


Mike Peterson(AP)

Coincidental Deaths?

Durham, N.C., May 20, 2003

"Accidental falls in the house are the leading cause of death, other than motor vehicle accidents in he United States.

Mike Peterson's attorney, David Rudolf

(CBS) While the story of Scott and Laci Peterson continues to get national attention, a trial has started in another, unrelated Peterson case with some eerie similarities.

Once again, a seemingly perfect marriage is under a microscope, and prosecutors say things may not be as perfect as they appeared, reports The Early Show national correspondent Tracy Smith.

By most accounts, Mike and Kathleen Peterson made an ideal pair. He is a decorated Vietnam veteran, novelist and columnist for the local paper. She was a career woman who served on the city's arts council. Their friend, Nick Galifianakis, called them "sweethearts."

"I thought that they were an extraordinary couple, a loving couple," said Galifianakis. "They had all the appearances and trappings of happiness. Totally compatible with one another."

Their family was a close-knit blend of children from former marriages and two orphaned girls that Mike had helped to raise. They all lived in an 11,000-square foot house in Durhamso picture-perfect that it was used as the set in a movie.

But on Dec. 9, 2001, that seemingly ideal life came to a sudden end. According to Mike Peterson, he and Kathleen were at the house the night before, drinking champagne and celebrating a possible movie deal for one of his books. Mike said Kathleen went to bed at 2 a.m., and when he followed, about a half hour later, he made a devastating discovery.

He said his wife had fallen down the stairs. When police arrived at the scene, they found Kathleen dead at the foot of the stairs, lying in a pool of blood.

"When I called 911, I thought she'd fallen down the stairs," said Mike Peterson. "As far as I know, that's what happened."

But an autopsy showed Kathleen had died of blunt force trauma to the head. In other words, she had been beaten to death. Less then two weeks later, Mike Peterson turned himself in to police, proclaiming his innocence.

"Kathleen was my life," he said. "I've whispered her name in my heart a thousand times. She is there. And I can't stop crying. I would never have done anything to hurt her."

He was indicted on first-degree murder. His family, including Kathleen's daughter, Caitlin Atwater, stood beside him.

"As far as I'm concerned, my mother would just be absolutely appalled and this is the last thing she would have wanted to ever, ever happen to her husband," said Atwater.

Tom Gasparoli has followed the trial as a columnist for The Herald-Sun and says the apparent history of a warm, loving and caring relationship is definitely going to work in Mike Peterson's favor in a circumstantial case.

"Is there a motive? I think the prosecution is going to come up with one," said Gasparoli. "I don't think they have to, but without one, the jury's scratching their heads a little bit and going, 'Why?'"

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Divers Search Again, Peterson Pursues Alternate Murder Theories

Divers Search Again, Peterson Pursues Alternate Murder Theories

Investigators in the Laci Peterson case returned to San Francisco Bay on Monday to look for additional evidence.

Using side-scanning sonar, investigators searched the bay in the area where Peterson's body and that of her unborn son were discovered in April. Whenever sonar returns indicated the possibility of evidence, divers from one of seven boats were sent down to examine the findings.

Among the items divers were reportedly told to look for were anchors or devices that could have been used to weigh down Peterson's body. It is not known what, if anything, was found.

The search came on the heels of the completion of the autopsy of the two bodies. The results of autopsies were immediately sealed by Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami. However, sources say Peterson's autopsy failed to reveal the cause of her death.

Peterson's husband, Scott, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder shortly after the bodies were discovered.

According to ABC News, sources close to Scott Peterson say his lawyers will question how Peterson, working alone, could have transported his wife's body and items to weigh her down.

Defense attorneys are also pursuing a theory that Laci Peterson could have been killed by a Satanic cult, which they say police investigated. Prosecutors, however, have dismissed that theory.

A preliminary hearing for Scott Peterson is scheduled for May 27. During those proceedings, the prosecution will have to lay out its evidence that Peterson should be tried for the murders of his wife and unborn son.

Story last updated Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 12:28 AM

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Divers Search for Laci Peterson Evidence

Saturday May 17, 2003 1:19 PM

Divers search for Laci Peterson evidence<< Modesto police divers resume search for evidence in Laci Peterson murder case

RICHMOND, Calif. (AP) - Police divers resumed a search in San Francisco Bay for evidence in the slaying of Laci Peterson, the 27-year-old woman whose remains washed ashore near here along with those of her unborn son.

The search could continue through the weekend, Modesto police Capt. Greg Savelli said Friday.

The remains were discovered by passers-by April 15. Published reports indicated at the time that not all of Peterson's remains were found, and that they may have been wrapped in plastic and weighted down by heavy material.

Divers first began searching the bay in January, and searched again in March in hopes of finding the body.

The remains washed ashore about three miles from where Peterson's husband, Scott, said he went fishing Christmas Eve. -------------

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Filipino murder mystery lands in California court

Filipino murder mystery lands in California court

JIM WASSERMAN, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, May 20, 2003

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(05-20) 13:40 PDT SACRAMENTO (AP) --

For 16 years, actress Nida Blanca starred in one of the most popular television shows in the Philippines, becoming so beloved in the island nation of 80 million people that fans called her "Tia Nida" -- Aunt Nida.

Her killing on Nov. 7, 2001, in an upscale neighborhood of Manila launched a national drama big enough that the nation's ousted president, Joseph Estrada, was released from the military hospital where he was held for plundering the Filipino treasury to attend her wake.

Now, Blanca's husband, 63-year-old American Roger Lawrence Strunk, faces a murder indictment issued by the Philippine government in February. He is scheduled to appear in U.S District Court in Sacramento Wednesday for a bail hearing to determine if he'll remain jailed while Filipino officials try to return him to Manila.

U.S. marshals arrested Strunk May 13 at a house he shared with his mother and two sisters in Tracy, a city of 70,000 people 50 miles east of San Francisco. Filipino officials call Strunk the leading suspect in the murder mystery that has riveted the Philippines for 19 months.

The case sparked a media frenzy in the Philippines and consumed many of the 2 million Filipino-Americans living in the United States, about half in California. More than a century of Filipino immigration and historical ties between the two nations has made Filipino-Americans the nation's second-largest Asian ethnic group, according to the 2000 census.

Blanca appeared in 163 comedy, drama, horror and action films and in more than a dozen television shows, including the popular comedy series, "John and Marsha", which ran for 16 years in which she played a devoted wife from a wealthy family married to a poor man.

Her fame has turned the case "hysterical" in the Philippines, said Jeffrey Kravitz, Strunk's Sacramento lawyer. "That's why we don't want him extradited."

In the Philippines, the mystery surrounding the death of the 65-year-old Blanca is "10 times larger than the Laci Peterson case," Kravitz said. Peterson's Christmas Eve disappearance in California, followed by the discovery of her body and Good Friday arrest of her husband, Scott, has dominated the U.S. media through much of 2003. ..................

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LIVE FROM THE HEADLINES

Laci Peterson Case: Back to the Bay

LIVE FROM THE HEADLINES

Laci Peterson Case: Back to the Bay

Aired May 20, 2003 - 20:07 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Want to switch our focus now. Laci Peterson case. Investigators today went back to San Francisco Bay looking for clues in that case. How is the search today?

Our Rusty Dornin is live in Richmond, California, watching this story from the very beginning, live again with us tonight.

Rusty, good evening there.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Bill.

Well, divers spent about seven hours in the water today before pulling up their air hoses and going back to the docks. Now that's been about the average that they're spending out there.

We didn't see from shore them bring anything aboard the boats today. Yesterday we saw them pull what looked like some kind of black cloth. We understand it was a sail. They do have to bring up anything they find, just so that the divers aren't pulling those things out again. Got to get rid of those things in the search area.

But from what we understand, as you can see, it's a little bit windy behind me here, and one of the sonar experts we talked to said, you know, every day has been the same. He goes out in the morning, it's beautiful, it's very glassy, they're getting great images off the bottom. Then by the afternoon, and when the waves are two or three feet high, that really smears the images and they're not able to get a good computer image. They end up having to come back to the dock and then try again the next day.

Now they have seen -- what they're looking for, really, is anything that looks like it does not belong in the bay, anything odd shaped. Says he's seen -- you know, they saw a couple of things they sent down divers for, they turned out to be tree stumps, things like concrete blocks that were not of something they were looking for.

So -- Gene Ralston (ph) out of Idaho says that the same problem has come up every day.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Early in the morning, we can make some pretty good, pretty decent images, when the water's calm, and we don't have a lot of velocity. But when the waves get two to three feet high, sends pretty good rollers, that starts messing up our images and smearing them pretty badly.

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DORNIN: Says it's difficult, because often they go to places where they know that there's been a drowning or an accident, and they know perhaps the point of entry.

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P.M. Update: Peterson's ex-girlfriend set to testify

P.M. Update: Peterson's ex-girlfriend set to testify

Modesto Bee and Wire Reports
(Published Tuesday, May 20, 2003, 2:26 PM)

LOS ANGELES -- Amber Frey said Monday she is prepared to testify when Scott Peterson goes to trial on charges of murdering his pregnant wife and their unborn son. Frey, 28, also said she has been hounded by news media and tabloids offering her money for her story ever since she came forward about her relationship with Scott Peterson about a month after Laci Peterson was reported missing.

As a result, the Fresno massage therapist said, she hired celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred to fend off the offers, which she does not intend to accept, and to represent her as a witness.

Allred represented the family of Nicole Brown Simpson during the O.J. Simpson criminal case.

"In addition to being a witness, Amber is also a victim of Scott's deception," Allred said at a news conference. "Victims are entitled to attorneys, as are witnesses."

Frey has said she did not know Peterson was married when she met him in November.

"She has been offered money for interviews and she has refused and will continue to refuse those offers," Allred said. "We are committed to protecting the integrity of the prosecution, and we will not allow her testimony to be contaminated by offers of money for her story."

Investigators arrested Scott Peterson last month after the bodies of his wife and their son, Conner, were found on the Richmond shoreline of San Francisco Bay, a few miles from where he said he was fishing when Laci Peterson disappeared from their Modesto home in December.

Frey spoke clearly at the news conference but appeared nervous. She declined to answer questions and said she would refer all inquiries to Allred.

"I don't think it's appropriate to talk about what might be contained in my testimony prior to my being called to the witness stand," she said.

Allred said Frey has "enormous empathy" for Laci Peterson's family.

"Every time she thinks of them she can barely hold back the tears because she is really very upset about their loss," Allred said.

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1 posted on 05/21/2003 5:41:36 AM PDT by runningbear
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To: runningbear; Rheo; spectre; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; ...
Pinging.... ;o)
2 posted on 05/21/2003 5:42:44 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: truthkeeper; BobFromNJ; WestCoastGal; Sunshine55; Yaelle; madison10; Devil_Anse; nycgal; ...
Pinging.... ;o)
3 posted on 05/21/2003 5:43:15 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: oceanperch; Jackie-O; uvular; Spunky; sirchtruth; sonserae; melodie; BlondieTx; I. Ben Hurt; ...
Pinging.... ;o)
4 posted on 05/21/2003 5:43:45 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear; All
For those who doubt police work or justice:

A free man after 19 years

Posted on Tue, May. 20, 2003

A free man after 19 years

DA DROPS CASE BUT WON'T CONCEDE INNOCENCE OF ACCUSED

By Howard Mintz
Mercury News

After nearly 20 years of legal stumbles, courtroom drama and millions of dollars in taxpayer expense, Santa Clara County prosecutors on Monday decided to quit trying to keep Glen ``Buddy'' Nickerson behind bars.

District Attorney George Kennedy announced that he would not seek to retry Nickerson, who recently won a federal appeal overturning his conviction in connection with the 1984 execution-style slayings of two South Bay drug dealers. Nickerson, 48, one of five men charged with at least some role in the murders, spent roughly 19 years in prison for a crime that a federal judge concluded he almost certainly did not commit.

He was freed from electronic monitoring Monday, the first time since 1984 that he hasn't been shackled in some way to the justice system.

``I think they could have come up with this decision that I didn't do it a lot sooner, 19 years ago,'' Nickerson said. ``I personally believe that maybe Kennedy decided his leg got tired of kicking a dead horse.''

In overturning Nickerson's conviction in March, U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel found that he most likely was innocent and unfairly sentenced as a result of police misconduct and lying witnesses. But Kennedy refused to concede Nickerson's innocence in making his decision to drop the case, the latest chapter in one of the county's most troubled, costly and enduring legal sagas.

Instead, the county's top law enforcement official said that a host of factors made a retrial too difficult to pursue, including the age of the case and the unavailability of witnesses. Kennedy and his aides also noted that Nickerson already served 19 years in prison, and that the primary culprits in the murders remain locked up, most likely for life.

``Not everything in life is black and white, and neither side is going to be totally satisfied,'' said Assistant District Attorney Karyn Sinunu, who reviewed the matter for Kennedy. ``I had to respect the federal court's findings and re-evaluate what we had. I think we made the right decision."

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Latest News on Ca Orange Alert?thought I would thru in some Ca news to fodder with:

California security increased with higher terror alert

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5 posted on 05/21/2003 5:49:20 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Good morning. You've been the busy bee! :-)
6 posted on 05/21/2003 5:54:54 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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re-emerged Monday looking (and acting) eerily like Paula Jones.

YIKES they're right!!!


7 posted on 05/21/2003 5:57:15 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: runningbear
I read this entire putrid, silly article to find out what basis the writer had for saying Amber Frey "acted like Paula Jones." It turns out the "reporter" was just looking for a chance to use the names Paula Jones and Charles Manson in the same sentence.
8 posted on 05/21/2003 6:02:49 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: runningbear
The author seems to think this case had "sense and stability" before Amber Frey hired Gloria Allred? Ha! I don't think Scott Peterson retaining Mark Geragos as his attorney is 'normal'. Geragos is not only high profile, but he also slammed Peterson on TV before being hired. Then, he makes a public appeal about a 'mystery witness'.

While I never liked Allred, Frey certainly needs an attorney who knows the media ropes like Geragos does.

Peterson and Geragos = normalcy? I don't think so!
9 posted on 05/21/2003 6:07:03 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the ping...trying to catch up on all that I have missed.
10 posted on 05/21/2003 6:07:38 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (SCOWderPuffGirls!!!)
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11 posted on 05/21/2003 6:07:45 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the ping, as normal. The Mike Peterson case is very interesting, as a woman he knew also died at the bottom of stairs in 1985 in Germany, and he was reported to be the last to see her alive. Her body was exhumed from Texas just in April and a new autopsy determined that she too was killed from blunt force trauma, just like Kathleen Peterson in 2001.

Plus, there's much more about Michael Peterson that just reeks of hypocrisy; hopefully if it's all true, the trial will reveal it.
12 posted on 05/21/2003 6:09:00 AM PDT by RightOnGOP
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To: runningbear; All
Scott Peterson's ex-girlfriend says she is prepared to testify in his trial

Scott Peterson's ex-girlfriend says she is prepared to testify in his trial

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The massage therapist who revealed she had a relationship with Scott Peterson said Monday she is prepared to testify at his trial on charges of killing his pregnant wife and their unborn child.

Amber Frey, 28, also said she has been hounded by news media and tabloids offering her money for her story ever since she came forward about a month after Laci Peterson disappeared.

She said she has hired celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred to fend off the offers, which she does not intend to accept, and to represent her as a witness.

"In addition to being a witness," Allred told a news conference, "Amber is also a victim of Scott's deception. Victims are entitled to attorneys, as are witnesses."

Frey has said she did not know Scott Peterson was married when she met him in November.

Scott Peterson was arrested last month after the bodies of his wife and baby washed ashore on the Richmond shoreline of San Francisco Bay, a few miles from where he says he was fishing when his wife disappeared from their Modesto home in December. He has pleaded innocent and is jailed without bail.

During a news conference Monday, Frey declined to answer questions and said she would refer all inquiries to her lawyer. She said she would not discuss her testimony before being called to the witness stand.

"Until that time I just want to lead a normal life and regain my privacy," she said.

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Court TV's Nancy Grace discusses Scott Peterson's hiring of Mark Geragos
May 6, 2003 May 6, 2003

Question from mspingpongf: Nancy what do you think made Geragos change his tune about Scott Peterson?

Nancy Grace: He got hired! That's why he changed his tune!

Question from Lyn: Nancy did great in the Larry King Ambush!

Nancy Grace: Man...that was tough! I felt so bad for Mr. Peterson....although he was pretty rude.

Question from magnolia: Do you think Geragos will be successful in his change of venue motion?

Nancy Grace: Possibly....but in that jurisdiction... when there is a change of venue very often the court buses jurors IN not move the case OUT.

Question from Brenda: Did you notice the smirk on Scott's face as he entered the courtroom? He kinda just strutted his stuff. What a pig!!!!

Nancy Grace: Nice suit....

Question from icechick: How in the world did you contain yourself when Lee Peterson called in..???

Nancy Grace: Years of practice dealing with angry defendant families in court. I felt awful for him....almost enough to forgive him for being abusive...but not quite@! Why is it when guys have an uphill battle...they call me a man hater? I don't hate men! just men charged with killing their wives!

Question from Red: Mark Gergaros said the prosecution's case was based on psychics and voodoo. Is it?

Nancy Grace: Hi red.... I brought that out last night... probably referring to reports in file not what the search warrants are based on....VERY IMPORTANT, where a psychic was contacted in fact there are reports that Mrs. Peterson, Scott's mother contacted a psychic....don't know if true....but that report may be in file also... any and all reports to police....tips...you name it are in file. That does NOT mean that those reports were any part of the basis for the search warrant, the arrest warrant, or the charges but its a convenient argument for mark Geragos to make!

Question from tantre: Hi Nancy, where has the rest of Scott's family been? I only see the daughter in law with them.

Nancy Grace: There are 7 sister/brothers in all.... I imagine they will all show up at some point.... to support their parents

Question from Caesare_Emperor_of_Universe: Nancy do you think that there will be a change of venue in the Peterson case, and, if so, where could the trial be held? (P.s. You were great on L.K.L., last week and this week! You re a strong, vibrant and intelligent panel member. I enjoyed your comments and analysis of the case.)

Nancy Grace: I think there will likely be a venue challenge and change. That does not necessarily mean that the trial will be moved ...again, the jurors may be bussed in.

Question from UH-OH: Will we see Geragos on Larry King since he took case?

Nancy Grace: Some.... maybe Thursday night

Question from shelly: Are Scott and his family aware yet of the evidence the police have against him?

Nancy Grace: No.....but they will...Geragos will have it all...already has thousands of docs.

13 posted on 05/21/2003 6:10:13 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: truthkeeper
a little... lol.. Off to get in some work now.... ;o(
14 posted on 05/21/2003 6:11:44 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the ping and the new thread, rb! ;0)
15 posted on 05/21/2003 6:13:57 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: KneelBeforeZod
funny, Amber had braces when NE published those nudie photos of her in her early twenties. Wonder if she stayed with the full term of the braces, or quit? (front teeth, the ortho didn't do a great job that I can see.)...(no not knocking Amber, just an observation...;o))
16 posted on 05/21/2003 6:14:13 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: San Jacinto
yes, yesterday a poster, (I forget the name), stated the errie resemblence of Amber to Paula....
17 posted on 05/21/2003 6:15:03 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
ROFLMAO!
18 posted on 05/21/2003 6:15:39 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Well, they both have bangs, longer hair, and overly done 'makeover' makeup. They both have/had the 'deer in the headlights' look infront of the cameras (neither being professional, trained talking heads). I think the writer is way off base here...it is not Gloria Allred who is playing the media...she is a response to the manipulations of Mark Geragos. Last time I was on FR I said we were witnessing he beginning of the Helter/Skelter defense (the autopsy reports leaks, the breathless reporting by Jerry Rivers of 'leaks' from the defense team). Gloria Allred, now is not just tied to one media outlet, she is now tied to the star witness, the other women, Amber Frey. GA seeks out face time--and that keeps (IMO) the 'other women' out there (the cheating husband did it) as opposed to 'a Manson-like cultist' did it.
19 posted on 05/21/2003 6:16:06 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (SCOWderPuffGirls!!!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
would you think that Geragos is having second thoughts now, or has to be in it, because of now the stupidity of his tactics he is going to try and TRY to get his client off, or reduced charges?

I think MG made a stupid mistake in taking this case. But what do I know....lol..

20 posted on 05/21/2003 6:16:58 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Oh your bad!!!!

For a moment, I thought that was Nancy Pelosi...the congress critter with the laughing eyes...lol...

21 posted on 05/21/2003 6:17:48 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: RightOnGOP; Howlin
Howlin pointed this case out to Freepers last week. I heard of it, and strange and compounding case....
22 posted on 05/21/2003 6:18:42 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: RightOnGOP; runningbear
I served on a jury a couple years ago where we convicted a man for killing his wife and putting her at the bottom of the stairs. he smashed her head in with something (never found the weapon) and pretended to find her at the bottom of the stairs.


23 posted on 05/21/2003 6:20:24 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
gross, and first thing in the morning... ;o)
24 posted on 05/21/2003 6:25:28 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
The last Q&A made me think...Geragos has the case now, thousands of documents....and the Petersons have been uncharacteristically quiet. Wonder if the goods LE has on Snotty has caused the to keep quiet, or maybe Geragos told them to zip it!
25 posted on 05/21/2003 6:27:29 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I read that book.
26 posted on 05/21/2003 6:28:19 AM PDT by clouda
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To: pitinkie
Mellyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

# 23
27 posted on 05/21/2003 6:29:29 AM PDT by clouda
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To: runningbear; KneelBeforeZod
I think Nancy Pelosi looks just like the Crypt-Keeper from Creepshow.
28 posted on 05/21/2003 6:30:43 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear
I was disappointed in the Amber Frey press conference. IMHO she came across very credible in her first one. But on this one Amber's face looked like a mask -- from the gobs of makeup. Then the dark roots with her bleached hair and dark eyeliner or whatever did nothing to enhance credibility.

This is a shame because it will hurt her credibility with a jury. And hiring a lawyer will make them wonder, rightly or wrongly, what she is guilty of.

29 posted on 05/21/2003 6:35:10 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: runningbear
I was disappointed in the Amber Frey press conference. IMHO she came across very credible in her first one. But on this one Amber's face looked like a mask -- from the gobs of makeup. Then the dark roots with her bleached hair and dark eyeliner or whatever did nothing to enhance credibility.

This is a shame because it will hurt her credibility with a jury. And hiring a lawyer will make them wonder, rightly or wrongly, what she is guilty of.

30 posted on 05/21/2003 6:35:59 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: runningbear
The braces sometimes don't work at a late age unless some surgery is involved. EXPENSIVE surgery to widen the mouth. Removing some teeth is also an option.
31 posted on 05/21/2003 6:38:55 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I served on a jury a couple years ago where we convicted a man for killing his wife and putting her at the bottom of the stairs. he smashed her head in with something (never found the weapon) and pretended to find her at the bottom of the stairs.

Well, that must have been fun.

Is the image in your post a link to a book about this?

32 posted on 05/21/2003 6:47:23 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: San Jacinto
It turns out the "reporter" was just looking for a chance to use the names Paula Jones and Charles Manson in the same sentence.

Did you know that Sidney Blumenthal lived in an area close to Charles Manson?

33 posted on 05/21/2003 6:50:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz ( "People that quote themselves in their taglines bother me." - Lazamataz)
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To: runningbear
I don't know, I just think Geragos is weird too. That's why I thought it was odd the author thought the case turned weird with the women coming on the scene.

Uh oh. SEXIST ALERT!
34 posted on 05/21/2003 6:50:52 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: KneelBeforeZod
We noticed the likeness immediately. A make over...big time.
35 posted on 05/21/2003 6:58:14 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: runningbear; All
Has there been any report yet of how/who is paying Gloria Allred's fee?

Someone last night posted that a radio show in Ca. had a phone call from a 'friend' of Amber, caller claimed Amber knew Scott was married and dated only married men-any other Cali. freepers hear this and know what show or radio station carried this?

36 posted on 05/21/2003 7:01:30 AM PDT by uvular
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To: uvular
Someone last night posted that a radio show in Ca. had a phone call from a 'friend' of Amber, caller claimed Amber knew Scott was married and dated only married men...

If I were you, I'd be careful what I give credence to at this point. There is a lot of BS flying about these days.

I personally believe Amber. I don't think she knew Snott was married.

37 posted on 05/21/2003 7:10:09 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: runningbear
Lots of new info..thanks for the ping!
38 posted on 05/21/2003 7:20:53 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: uvular
You have SP on GMA saying he lied to Amber about being married, Amber stating publicly that he lied to her about being married and Amber's family in press reports claiming that SP had portrayed himself as unmarried. Three-way corroboration.

I didn't hear it but it seems to me that the anonymous voice in the radio loses. True or not.
39 posted on 05/21/2003 7:21:14 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: The Other Harry
That sounds like something her other boyfriend's wife would do.
40 posted on 05/21/2003 7:21:42 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Dante3
Her makeup and hair will hurt her credibility? Why?
41 posted on 05/21/2003 7:23:57 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; allyoop77
Kimberly, my dear, I think you need to counsel that girl on the other thread who is burning out. That would be: allyoop77

She is apparently a newbie. She's been taking some of this too seriously. It's serious, but it isn't all *that* serious.

It is also raining again today. It is another one of those nasty little pattering rains which never seem to stop. It makes it very difficult to walk the dog. He sometimes craps in the basement when I don't walk him.

42 posted on 05/21/2003 7:36:25 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry
LOL You just gave me my first laugh of the day. My dogs doo doo in the garage if it's raining. My girl dog refuses to get "wet" in the rain. My boy dog is like...who cares--he doesn't care if he's wet or dry! But our problem is ourselves..we sometimes forget to take them out when it's raining.

I love rainy days...storms etc.. (*until we had all those tornadoes...scared us pretty awful like*)

I'll have to go check out her postings. :)
43 posted on 05/21/2003 7:41:55 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: The Other Harry
><> It makes it very difficult to walk the dog. He sometimes craps in the basement when I don't walk him. <><

Does he not like the rain? What do you do when it rains for days on end?? I'd rather get wet, than clean up "crap" .. LOL
44 posted on 05/21/2003 7:41:58 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Her makeup and hair will hurt her credibility? Why?

That's nonsense.

Amber may have her limitations, but her story holds water.

Frankly, I am glad she got Gloria Allred to represent her. I think Amber needs someone like that -- an assertive bitch who can act as a lightning rod. They have their place.

45 posted on 05/21/2003 7:42:52 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: KneelBeforeZod
That's amazing!
46 posted on 05/21/2003 7:43:37 AM PDT by Gamecock (The PCA; We're the "intolerant" ones! (As seen on Taglinus FreeRepublicus, 11th Edition)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
Does he not like the rain? What do you do when it rains for days on end?? I'd rather get wet, than clean up "crap" .. LOL

My rain wardrobe has improved greatly in the past few months. The real coup was the pair of waterproof shoes from Lands End. I'd be dead without those.

Still, it is no fun going out on days like this.

47 posted on 05/21/2003 7:47:03 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry
><> My rain wardrobe has improved greatly in the past few months. <><

LOL .. I hear that. Be prepared .. be vigilant!
48 posted on 05/21/2003 7:48:35 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: The Other Harry
I just read ally's posts.. not interested..but thanks anyway! :)

That's kind of what I thought. I don't think hair and makeup alone can hurt someone's credibility. If anything..it will be the fact that she had a previous relationship with a married man...but that should be outweighed by her father et al who were led to believe that SP was a widower. That is so telling, I can't believe it's not a huge focus factor... What kind of sick perv, who cheats on his wife...tells people his wife is dead? Mentally ill ones IMHO!!

49 posted on 05/21/2003 7:48:57 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: RGSpincich; The Other Harry; ladyinred
I'm not inclined to believe this either. I was just trying to find out where this poster heard it so the radio station could be checked out. How the station/show could verify this was truly someone who knew Amber mystified me.

Paging ladyinred; she's the one who posted it last night.

50 posted on 05/21/2003 7:49:02 AM PDT by uvular
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