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Children shouldn't fish
Aftenposten ^ | Thursday 22 May 200

Posted on 05/21/2003 6:42:55 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode

The Norwegian Federation for Animal Protection (Dyrebeskyttelsen Norge) now believes it is wrong for fishing poles being passed out in schools since research shows that fish feel pain. The organization is also concerned about worms being impaled on fishing hooks, newspaper Dagsavisen reports.

The animal interest group is reacting to Fishing Pole Project 2003, which will donate 40,000 fishing poles to grammar schools, an expansion of a popular project run last year. "The benefit of any doubt about the pain of fish should favor the fish" is the organization's stance.

Steinar Paulsen of the NJFF (Norwegian Hunter and Fisherman Federation) called the project an important way to help children experience aspects of nature that are growing more and more remote.

Dyrebeskyttelsen representative Siri Relling does not buy this argument.

"It is important for children to experience nature, but they can do it without tormenting other species. Students could get binoculars or cameras instead of learning to make fish suffer," Relling said.

Relling also was concerned about the fate of earthworms and their traditional role as bait.

"We can't rule out that worms feel pain. I also doubt that children think it is OK to thread a worm onto a hook," Relling said.

"We don't have a basic stance against fishing but we react to the suffering of animals. When we have research that shows fish feel pain that means we can not support the school (fishing) project. Bullfighting is culture in Spain but it shouldn't be maintained on that ground," Relling told Dagsavisen.

The NJFF did not reject the idea that fish feel pain, but disagreed that it could be so great. The NJFF did reject the comparison with bullfighting.

"There is, after all, a difference between catching a fish with a worm and torturing a bull to death. But it is important to kill the fish properly and that is why it is essential to teach children how to fish and how to kill them," Paulsen said.

The NJFF said they would still be handing out the fishing poles since they disagreed with the Dyrebeskyttelsen stance, and that not giving the poles away now would "be like canceling Christmas".


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1 posted on 05/21/2003 6:42:55 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
This is from the Onion right?
2 posted on 05/21/2003 6:46:05 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Mister Baredog
This is from the Onion right?

It is getting hard to tell anymore.

3 posted on 05/21/2003 6:48:35 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Mister Baredog
JFC!!!
4 posted on 05/21/2003 6:48:47 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Mister Baredog
Will the Fish Police be coming after me this summer when the chirren and I catch sand bass?
5 posted on 05/21/2003 6:49:26 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
These nuts have already caused a backlash...

In Norway, more women take up hunting and sports shooting ^

6 posted on 05/21/2003 6:50:23 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Drew68
Is there no end to this madness?
7 posted on 05/21/2003 6:50:29 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Perhaps Bill Clinton shouldn't fish then.
8 posted on 05/21/2003 6:50:42 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Students could get binoculars or cameras instead of learning to make fish suffer," Relling said.

Oh sure, subject those poor fish to human voyeurism. How would he like someone to be staring at him through binoculars all day? It's degrading.

9 posted on 05/21/2003 6:57:10 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Good Lord, what's next?
11 posted on 05/21/2003 7:06:38 PM PDT by Colonel Jim
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To: annyokie
Will the Fish Police be coming after me this summer when the chirren and I catch sand bass?

Have bail money tucked away somewhere.

12 posted on 05/21/2003 7:07:47 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
"Have bail money tucked away somewhere"

How much do you figure I need? We usually have ten bucks for cokes and bait.
13 posted on 05/21/2003 7:12:50 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: annyokie
"Will the Fish Police be coming after me this summer when the chirren and I catch sand bass?"

Only if you do it on porpoise.

14 posted on 05/21/2003 7:13:07 PM PDT by stboz
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To: stboz
I do it just for the halibut!
15 posted on 05/21/2003 7:14:14 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: annyokie
How much do you figure I need?

I'm not as familiar with the scales of justice.

16 posted on 05/21/2003 7:20:42 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
Surely you know a sturgeon? They are the biggest loxs around!
17 posted on 05/21/2003 7:24:33 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Colonel Jim
"Good Lord, what's next?"

You shouldn't ask unless you really want to know!

18 posted on 05/21/2003 7:25:57 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
"concerned about worms being impaled on fishing hooks"

Vegetarians: See Tag Line.

19 posted on 05/21/2003 7:28:11 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Ya know, if you dynamite the stream, the fish is instantly killed by the concussion, and so doesn't have time to feel pain.

Just a suggestion. I'm trying to be helpful.

20 posted on 05/21/2003 7:30:42 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Okay, now it works: Knight's Quest, at http://geocities.com/engineerzero)
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