Israel formally approves the 'road map'

Jerusalem Post ^ | May. 25, 2003 | THE JERUSALEM POST INTERNET STAFF

[Mr170IQ]

But a number of conditions were attached to the plan, including an insistence that the Palestinians not demand a so-called 'right of return' by refugees to Israel, which passed by a separate vote of 16-1.

An "approval" with a critical pre-requisite such as this is not actually an approval. It is a "counter-offer".

I was hoping that when Bubba left, the USA would no longer spin stuff like this. Alas, some things remain exactly the same.

Also, Netanyahu has given his supporters another example of his lack of backbone. If he wanted people to see his as a man of principle, he should have voted NO instead of abstaining.

[Phil V.]

1 posted on 05/25/2003 6:43 AM PDT by yonif

now 8:05 AM . . . great jubilation here at FreeRepublic!!!

[Quick1]

Bump, I can't believe no one is talking about the big news of the day.

[veronica]

*Yawn.* Just more proof that it is Israel who always wants peace, and makes and accepts overtures and concessions. But of course this, as all the other ME "peace plans" will go no place. Because the Arafat-Mazen regime is not interested in "peace", except maybe in the peace of the grave for Jews. As with Camp David, this an excercise in futility, a show for the world. Nothing will come it. Islamoterrorism will continue. Nevetheless the enemies of Israel will salivate at this news, for they think it brings them one step closer to Israel's destruction. WRONG again.

[yonif]

Alas, some things remain exactly the same.

It is a shame that terrorists are being appeased. Terrorists should never be allowed to have power in any part of the world. With the moves of this administration, the PLO-terrorist regime is getting audience from our American government, a government I thought wanted to defeat terrorist regimes.

It is a dangerous move to Israel's security....and existence.

[yonif]

PING

[yonif]

And Bush is talking about having a summit in Egypt? When will we learn that this is not the answer, the answer is the destruction of terrorism (which the PA is a part of).

[Militiaman7]

Big Mistake

Once again the lambs (Israel) are being led to the slaughter.

I hope Israel wakes up before it is too late.

This peace map will lead Israel down a path to destruction.

[Phil V.]

"*Yawn.* Just more proof that it is Israel (born of terrorism - Irgun Stern Haganah ) who always wants peace, and makes and accepts overtures . . . we shall see . . .

[veronica]

We are learning all the time, yet the more things change the more they stay the same. No sane person, or history buff, thinks this whole thing is anything but another show, a dance macabre that will eventually be lots of sound and fury signifying nothing. As long as terrorist factions proliferate in the ME, and homicide bombings continue, any talk of a "Palestinian" state is an absurdity that will never occur. Then again, if a "Palestinian" state would mean ALL Islamofascists could be kept out of Israel, and Israel would be free to answer *any* attack from such a "state" or it's satellite allies with full and *I mean full force*, it's something to consider. :)

[yonif]

It will be harder to combat terrorism if they have a state. Once they are a state, they will join the Arab league, and sign all these different defense pacts with Arab countries. So if Israel were to go pursue the terrorists, they will have this to bear. Furthermore, after a state is established there will be a UN force which will be on the border, because the PLO will invite them. It will serve as a safety net for their terrorism, as Israel will not be able to pursue terrorists behind these UN guys. If Israel were to go there, there will be a huge outcry and countries in the UN will take steps to combat Israel's "agression."

A state will be dangerous. It will be similar to what Cuba did to the US in the 1960s.

[Scenic Sounds]

Justice Minister Yosef (Tommy) Lapid of the Shinui Party, whose five ministers all voted in favor, said he voted yes, because "we cannot continue to recruit reservists for duty in the territories unless they are confident the government is doing the utmost to make peace."

. . .

Sharon was quoted as telling ministers at the start of the meeting that Israel needs to back the plan, if only for the sake of helping to cure an economic recession that is worsened by the continuation of a 32-month uprising and terror wave.

Interesting.

[yonif]

The existence of Israel is the only way to guarantee the Jewish people have defense.

Israel was not founded on terrorism, as you said correctly.

The roadmap will hurt the ability of Israel to safeguard its citizens. Look at all the terrorism the PA is perpetrating. Think about what will happen when it has a state to run.

[veronica]

To suggest that Israel was born of terrorism is also to say that the United States was similarly created. Needless to say it's a complete untruth in both cases.

Go to any anti-semitic website, and you will note that one of their ongoing schticks is to claim Israel was born of terrorism. It's revisionist history, not unlike Holocaust denial, and like Holocaust denial, it's a lie. And of course by doing this, they are also trying to mitigate current Islamic/Palestinian terrorism.

[yonif]

"*Yawn.* Just more proof that it is Israel (born of terrorism - Irgun Stern Haganah ) who always wants peace, and makes and accepts overtures . . . we shall see . . .

Could you please provide some descriptions and details which characterize the just Israeli independence movement as terrorist in nature.

[veronica]

Yours was a very good post btw.

[Mr. Mojo]

great jubilation here

Are you naive enough to truly believe that the Palestinians can live up to the conditions of the "roadmap," and that they'll be given a state in Judea and Samaria? LOL. You seem to be addicted to disappointment.

Understand that the Arab terrorist organizations and their Saudi-bakced sponsors do not want this agreement to succeed, as much as they might (publicly) say otherwise. If this thing ever gets even close to being signed by all parties concerned, expect a wave of suicide/homicide bombing the likes of which we've never before seen to assure that it doesn't happen. Bush and Sharon are smart enough to know this, of course, and that's why they're merely going through the motions.

....And we're going through these motions for two main reasons: 1) to (hopefully) placate the Arab "street" long enough to take care of all our business - next order of business: Syria - in the region relatively unhindered by Muslim fanaticism, and 2) to show the world once and for all that the Palestinians are simply not capable living up to peace agreements. Regarding #2, it's kind of like the "last chance" we gave to Saddam's regime before we annihilated it. That's why Sharon appears so willing to see this thing through --- he knows the Pallies can't handle it.

As far as the Palestinian "right of return" is concerened, I'm all for it ---- a return to their homeland in Jordan, that is.

[freedumb2003]

>> return to their homeland in Jordan, that is<<

Why no one in the Arab world (and many in the Western world) can seem to understand this is beyond me. It is a simple fact. The Palestine "refugees" are refugees by CHOICE. The are a festering wound held open and infected by the arab world spefically to keep the Middle eEst unstable. This is done (and sadly, sucessfully) to distract the arab populace from realizing they have gone absolutely nowhere and the only reason the Middle East isn't like Africa is oil.

The current plan, if followed by both sides and if Isreal doesn't once again give in to terrorism (they keep encouraging it by capitulating every time a homicide bomber blows himself up), has the best chance of closing this wound once and for all, with one caveat: Splitting up the terrories is going to create a world of logistical problems. I would hope this blatant oversight is corrected once real negotiations begin.

I know I will probably be disappointed again, but I look with cautious optimism at what is underway.