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What Goes Around Comes Around - Blair to be charged with war crimes by International Criminal Court!
newsmax.com ^ | May 29, 2003 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 05/29/2003 4:20:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The BBC reports that British Prime Minister Tony Blair is about to be charged as a war criminal by the Greek Bar Association before the International Criminal Court. Dimitris Paxinos, president of the lawyers' association, told the BBC that Blair will be charged with "crimes against humanity and war crimes." President George Bush escapes being charged, as the United States is not a signatory to the ICC.

The Greeks claim that the U.S.-U.K. invasion of Iraq violates the United Nations Charter, the Geneva Convention, the Hague Convention and the International Criminal Court's statute.

Paxinos, who was elected by a conservative majority, says he is confident that the evidence compiled by the bar association is strong.

Until recently, charges against a head of state could be laughed away. Unfortunately for Tony Blair, he created the precedent for extraditing heads of state. The Blair government arrested Chile's Augusto Pinochet and ruled that Pinochet could be extradited to Spain on specious charges brought by a Spanish prosecutor.

Arrested in October 1998 while in London for back surgery, the 82-year-old Pinochet was held in England under house arrest while the majesty of British law decided his fate. The stress on Pinochet of the drawn-out proceedings resulted in two strokes.

His health destroyed, an 84-year-old Pinochet was released by Blair's Home Secretary, Jack Straw, in March 2000 and was allowed to return to Chile.

Pinochet was a victim of Soviet propaganda. He was head of the Chilean army in 1973 when it was forced by popular demand and appeal from the elected legislature to overthrow Salvador Allende, who was turning Chile into a Soviet client state.

Pinochet had to combat Marxist terrorists during the 1970s and 1980s, using the equivalent of the U.S. PATRIOT Act and military detention a la the U.S. camp at Guantanamo Bay. With far fewer resources, Pinochet successfully put down a far greater terrorist threat than the one currently faced by the United States.

During these years, Pinochet revived Chile's broken economy and restored the country's legal and political systems. He succeeded, because he turned the government over to civilian ministers with graduate educations from the University of Chicago and Harvard.

He authorized a group of leading citizens to create a new constitution that would restore democracy and representative government and used referendum to legitimize the new political system.

Pinochet kept to the time schedule he had established and stepped down as president of Chile in 1990, just as he said he would.

Pinochet was demonized by the international political left, and his health and retirement were destroyed as a consequence.

Pinochet did not fight terrorism by invading foreign countries. The total number of terrorists killed by the Chilean military is a fraction of the recent Iraqi civilian casualties at the hands of U.S. and U.K. forces. Pinochet never dropped bombs on civilians or sent missiles into residential neighborhoods.

At the time Pinochet was arrested by Blair's government as a sop to the political left, the International Criminal Court did not exist. Cornell University Professor Jeremy Rabkin demonstrated that there was no international law giving Spain jurisdiction over Chile or giving Spanish magistrate Baltasar Garzon jurisdiction over Pinochet.

Garzon hoped to create such a law by asserting it, and Blair foolishly went along.

In 1998, it did not occur to Blair that five years later he would be roped into invading Iraq on trumped-up charges that it was a hotbed of al-Qaeda terrorists equipped with weapons of mass destruction.

Now Blair finds himself with a nasty bit of aggression on his record and as many as 10,000 civilian casualties. That puts him in league with Slobodan Milosovic, who at least was fighting terrorist separatists within his own borders.

It is fairly certain that the Blair government is not going to hand over Blair to the Greeks or to the ICC. If it did, Bush would send in the Special Forces to rescue him. But if the ICC issues a warrant, Blair won't be able to go to Greece or to any country that might hand him over to the ICC.

Indeed, once Blair achieves his goal of dissolving Great Britain into the European Union, there will be no sovereign British government to protect him. He could be picked up at will by EU police and handed over to the ICC.

With the United States becoming a multicultural Tower of Babel, who is to know that Bush, too, in his old age won't be handed over by a Hispanic president who has no concern for vanquished Anglo-American hegemony or agreements between vanished cultures and nations.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 05/29/2003 4:20:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Is Michael Moore chief justice of this tribunal?
2 posted on 05/29/2003 4:23:07 PM PDT by ewing
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is insane.
3 posted on 05/29/2003 4:24:06 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So Blair "...could be extradited to on specious charges brought by a prosecutor."

That's the precedent he's created?

LMAO!!!

4 posted on 05/29/2003 4:25:01 PM PDT by South40
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To: Tailgunner Joe
total number of terrorists killed by the Chilean military is a fraction of the recent Iraqi civilian casualties at the hands of U.S. and U.K. forces.
I suppose Newsmax has legitimate, documented numbers for both cases that can be used to determine the legitimacy of that claim?

They are right about Pinochet getting hosed though.

5 posted on 05/29/2003 4:25:17 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The real criminals are those with One-World Government -- enslavement of humanity -- ambitions.
6 posted on 05/29/2003 4:26:30 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Blair is going to be charged for "Crimes against humanity"! That is not only STUPID, it is down right fraudulent. I hope Blair tells these morons to take these charges and shove them up their greek a$$'s!
7 posted on 05/29/2003 4:26:40 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Were the so-called "World Court" in existence, sixty years ago: they'd have brought similar charges against FDR and Churchill, doubtless.

Outrage. Madness.

8 posted on 05/29/2003 4:28:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("This is how six-year-olds argue: they call everything 'stupid'." --Coulter, on liberals)
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To: MEG33
With the United States becoming a multicultural Tower of Babel, who is to know that Bush, too, in his old age won't be handed over by a Hispanic president who has no concern for vanquished Anglo-American hegemony or agreements between vanished cultures and nations.

That last line is just stupid race-baiting. Sorry.

9 posted on 05/29/2003 4:28:44 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Tailgunner Joe
With the United States becoming a multicultural Tower of Babel, who is to know that Bush, too, in his old age won't be handed over by a Hispanic president who has no concern for vanquished Anglo-American hegemony or agreements between vanished cultures and nations.

Hmmm...well this would explain why Bush and the Republicans have been kow-towing to Hispanic groups...;-)

10 posted on 05/29/2003 4:29:26 PM PDT by willowpar
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To: Tailgunner Joe
President George Bush escapes being charged, as the United States is not a signatory to the ICC.

This sort of nonsense is exactly WHY the United States isn't a signatory.

11 posted on 05/29/2003 4:31:06 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Dog Gone; Carl/NewsMax
See the line I pulled out- that is also nonsense I suspect.

When did Newsmax pick up Paul Craig Roberts? That wasn't a smart move by them.

12 posted on 05/29/2003 4:31:44 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: Tailgunner Joe

In 1998, it did not occur to Blair that five years later he would be roped into invading Iraq on trumped-up charges that it was a hotbed of al-Qaeda terrorists equipped with weapons of mass destruction.

Now Blair finds himself with a nasty bit of aggression on his record and as many as 10,000 civilian casualties. That puts him in league with Slobodan Milosovic, who at least was fighting terrorist separatists within his own borders.

It is fairly certain that the Blair government is not going to hand over Blair to the Greeks or to the ICC. If it did, Bush would send in the Special Forces to rescue him. But if the ICC issues a warrant, Blair won't be able to go to Greece or to any country that might hand him over to the ICC.

Indeed, once Blair achieves his goal of dissolving Great Britain into the European Union, there will be no sovereign British government to protect him. He could be picked up at will by EU police and handed over to the ICC.

With the United States becoming a multicultural Tower of Babel, who is to know that Bush, too, in his old age won't be handed over by a Hispanic president who has no concern for vanquished Anglo-American hegemony or agreements between vanished cultures and nations.

Is this article for real? It sounds like it was written by someone at The Onion.

13 posted on 05/29/2003 4:32:06 PM PDT by jgrubbs
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Read the BBC report
14 posted on 05/29/2003 4:32:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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To: foreignfreeper
Comments?
15 posted on 05/29/2003 4:33:10 PM PDT by abner
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To: jgrubbs
Truth is stranger than fiction.
16 posted on 05/29/2003 4:33:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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To: Dog Gone
No, that's just plain ugly.

Tia

17 posted on 05/29/2003 4:35:53 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So, will we expect to see similar charges against:

Fidel Castro
Robert Mugabe
Muummar Khadafi
Assad's Boy
Hosni Mubarak
Yasser Arafat
Kim Il Dong
Dictators of the following countries-- Most of Africa, The People's Republic of China, Burma/Myamma, the Dude in Venezula.....Etc, Etc.

This whole thing is just a leftist's wet dream to go after those on the right.

18 posted on 05/29/2003 4:36:17 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Dog Gone
Actually this race baiting author had better hope that he and his Greek buddies aren't rounded up and turned over to the new Freed Iraqis for war crimes. A whole lot of Paleo Cons should be afraid of that eventuality.
19 posted on 05/29/2003 4:38:21 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Time to visit this website and join up: http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
From the BBC report:

...the case would be a test of the ICC's credibility.

I can't think of a quicker, easier way to turn the ICC into an irrelevant laughingstock than to make its first case one that is so inherently damaging - if it wins and cannot collect Blair, it looks foolish, if it loses, the whole thing is a waste of time. Are these people deliberately setting the ICC up to fail?

20 posted on 05/29/2003 4:39:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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