What did that guy on Rita Cosby's show just say about Eric Rudolph listening to Rush Limbaugh?

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[Texas Eagle]

Sorry to initiate this thread this way, but I just came inside from working in the yard all day and clicked on the TV. FOX's Rita Cosby was talking to some guy about Eric Rudolph and the guy said something about Rudolph listening to Rush Limbaugh. I missed the first part of the interview so I don't know the context of the statement.

Is there anybody who heard the whole segment who can shed some light on this?

[gcruse]

Well, I don't know the guy personally. But it sure looks like it to me. I don't suppose you can thumbnail your insights?

[gcruse]

Can you deal rationally with the idea of multiple ideological conspiracies without breaking out the tin foil? 

             It depends on their likelihood.  This one is warm spit.

Big Media bias is a fact. We're going to punish their lights out now that choices abound.

             That's why I am in favor of approving newscorp's takeover of DirecTV.  It's a step
              in the right direction.  However, there is another long time freeper who posted a long
             article today from some family group raising hell at the concentration of media.  We aren't
              even united on something that obvious.

[bereanway]

I would imagine he's a wacked out nut case, where his particular politcal ideology would fall on the spectrum of political thought I really don't know. I am however certain he is not just a social conservative. As I stated earlier, that is the impression (social conservative) the major media will attempt to create.

[gcruse]

I would imagine he's a wacked out nut case, where his
 particular politcal ideology would fall on the spectrum
of political thought I really don't know.

You imagine, and really don't know.  
But I need to get out more.
             Okay, pard.  ;)

[Lancey Howard]

You and me and Rudolph may all be equally disgusted at the wanton slaughter of babies growing in the womb (this is what distinguishes us from the selfish, uncivilized scumbag Democrats and their ilk) but unlike Rudolph, you and I and nearly every other decent human being on this planet are repulsed by the things Rudolph has allegedly done.

I think dismissing Rudolph as merely a "social conservative" is as disingenuous as disimissing Kaczinski as merely an "environmentalist". These people are in a class of their own - - insane psychopaths.

Regards,
LH

[kcar]

Nothing "warm spit" about typical media slant of news.

This guy may be "right-wing" - at least by their definition, and he may listen to Limbaugh, although not all who listen are persuaded. But that is irrelecant to whether he comiited the crime. However, it is all too believable that the most salient part of his nefarious behaviour will be the "right-wing" part, because the Media are thamatically honed. Paint them all wingnuts! Rush is an instigator of intolerance! The conspiracy consists in drawing in Congressional hearings so that, at a minimum, they get increased funding for left-wing NPR and PBS. Is that really hard to believe?
Anything that disrupts choice is crap. Freedom, not DIVERSITY, is what founded this republic, although diversity is a favorable by-product of freedom. This Media Concentration crap is just a crowbar to be used to attack the New Media. I don't care if Right is united in this opinion - it's mine.

[gcruse]

I think dismissing Rudolph as merely a "social conservative" is as disingenuous as disimissing Kaczinski as merely an "environmentalist". These people are in a class of their own - - insane psychopaths.

I think the danger is that we want to disassociate ourselves from perpetrators on our side of the spectrum,
while holding the other side to theirs.  Yes, some of these people are insane.  But if their convictions do not
reflect that in the verdict, then we need to think about our brethren on the fringes, and not encourage them excessively with our support.

[bereanway]

Exactly. The thng he can't just be is a social conservative.

[gcruse]

However, it is all too believable that the most salient
 part of his nefarious behaviour will be the "right-wing" part,
 because the Media are thamatically honed

It may be.  But we do ourselves a disservice by denying
what is in front of us. The guy is right wing.  There are
some right wing crazies that we need to deal with.  If
we are going to become the majority govt in this country,
we need to dispel some of these stereotypes by taking a
stand against aberrant behavior, insane or not.

[kcar]

I don't deny the facts as they are, only the manner in which the Media is apt to "connect the dots" for us. That is my objection and the source of Lauratealeaf's sarcasm that I intuitively recognised as truth. I wouldn't invite the Media in to any soul-searching of the Right, so as to better excoriate our own and because we also produced a loon, because we know in advance that that would lead to a disgenuous slant, and hence an even greater dis-service to those that adhere to principles of the Right by painting them as similarly guilty by assoication.
The only one guilty here was this loon. Not the ideology.
To expect the Media to portray those facts accurately is like expecting Lucy to finally hold the ball for Charlie to kick it, despite all contrary prior history.

[Fred Mertz]

Remember how Clinton tried to blame Limbaugh for the OKC bombing?

Yes. That is an excellent point.

[gcruse]

The press is going to do what they are going to do. I think the opera bit is too petty even for them, though, and is an indicator of how silly paranoia gets to be. The amazing thing is that publishers are often conservative, and it is obvious to everyone that half the country is, too. Yet, thanks to decades of leftist academia and journalism schools, we have a media elite completely out of touch with half the country. It makes the British press and internet very valuable, and maybe part of the engine that is going to cure all this.

[Fred Mertz]

But the GOP wasn't and isn't even remotely responsible for Rudoph's crimes and choice of targets.

As far as I know there is no evidence linking ErRud to the Olympic Park bombing. That one had a MidEast signature.

[gcruse]

A middle east signature?

The authorities say Mr. Rudolph first struck July 27, 1996, planting a knapsack bomb that drilled nails and shrapnel into visitors at the Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta. It was midway through the Games. The explosion, which tarred the event, killed Alice Hawthorne, 44, and injured more than 100.

[gcruse]

Exactly. The thng he can't just be is a social conservative.

Murphy is a conservative place, a saw mill and cow pasture town of 1,500, with the Appalachian foothills rising like the rim of a bowl in every direction.

"Rudolph's a Christian and I'm a Christian and he dedicated his life to fighting abortion," said Crystal Davis, 25, a mother of four. "Those are our values. These are our woods. I don't see what he did as a terrorist act."

[Fred Mertz]

The authorities say Mr. Rudolph first struck July 27, 1996...

The authorities lie. I'm going on memory here, but I thought they tried to pin an abortion/murder clinic bombing on Rudolph first. Then they tried to pin any unsolved bombing on him.

Is my memory correct?

[kcar]

What the press is going to do is no longer acceptable. They are going to mis-portray this as a character flaw of Right-thinking people, and in the process hammer the nails in their own coffins very securely. They are trash and the Opera thing was just sarcasm from people who are justly aggrieved by decades of this BS.
"But the press is going to do what they do" is 1) my point all along - they're going to slant it, but 2) we need to be in their face when they do, because this is NOT an acceptable conclusion - this is left-wing dogma. And 3) we're cancelling our subscription because we're not into self-flagellation. And 4) it sounds like "Well, Clinton will lie, and boys will be boys".

[BenR2]

He might have even tuned in to Jim Bohannon

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Puh-leeease! To my way of thinking, Bohannon is no conservative. I find him virtually unbearable.

[Constitutionalist Conservative]

Funny that the press is not noting Rudolph's love of opera.

I know I'm late to this, but.... opera is EVIL!

[WarSlut]

Is my memory correct?

Yes, you're correct. The Olympic Park bombing was attributed to Rudolph by Reno Justice after the clinic bombing, and long after the Richard Jewell mess had blown over.

Considering the adminstration's ties to the abortion industry, and it's long history of denying international terrorism in the U.S., it's safe to say the Rudolph had absolutely nothing to do with Olympic Park.

Ne need to even take the change into account. It's going to go away pretty quickly. And in the media's rush to hammer home the abortion-angle of this story, they'll completely ignore the fact that Clinton/Reno lied to country about the Olympic Park terror attack, twice.