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She Knew. Everyone Knew.
National Review ^ | June 4, 2003, 2:55 p.m. | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 06/04/2003 12:13:40 PM PDT by wcdukenfield

The Clinton spin machine drones on.

The media are reporting today that in her new book, Living History, Hillary Clinton claims she believed Bill's denials of an affair with Monica Lewinsky for some six months. Not until the weekend before his August 17, 1998, grand-jury testimony, when he confessed to her, did she accept the truth.

Hillary writes:

I could hardly breathe. Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, 'What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me? I was furious and getting more so by the second. He just stood there saying over and over again, "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I was trying to protect you and Chelsea."

It was once said of Hillary that she was one of the 100 smartest lawyers in America. Can she actually be this dumb? I think not. This is just the latest in her unending line of deceptions. Everyone knows that Bill Clinton is a serial philanderer — at best. In fact, here's some of what Hillary — and the rest of the world — knew about Bill before her husband's August 15, 1998, confession.

Gennifer Flowers: excerpt from January 27, 1992, press conference

"Yes, I was Bill Clinton's lover for 12 years." [I lied] "to protect him....The truth is I loved him. Now he tells me to deny it. Well, I'm sick of all the deceits, and I'm sick of all the lies."

Paula Jones: excerpts from May 6, 1994, complaint in Jones vs. Clinton & Ferguson

Count 20. "[After being escorted to a hotel suite where she was left alone with then-Governor Clinton, Clinton said to Jones] 'I love the way your hair flows down your back' and 'I love your curves.' While saying these things, Clinton put his hand on Plaintiff's leg and started sliding it toward the hem of Plaintiff's culottes. Clinton also bent down to attempt to kiss Jones on the neck."

Count 21. "Jones exclaimed, 'What are you doing?' and escaped from Clinton's physical proximity by walking away from him. Jones tried to distract Clinton by chatting with him about his wife. Jones later took a seat at the end of the sofa nearest the door. Clinton asked Jones: 'Are you married?' She responded that she had a regular boyfriend. Clinton then approached the sofa and as he sat down he lowered his trousers and underwear exposing his erect penis and asked Jones to 'kiss it.'

Kathleen Wiley: excerpts from March 15, 1998, on CBS's 60 Minutes

"Then [Bill Clinton] kissed me on my mouth and pulled me closer to him. And ... I remember thinking...'what in the world is he doing?' he touched my breasts with his hand ... and he whispered ... 'I've wanted to do this ever since I laid eyes on you.' And ... then he took my hand, and he put it on him. And, that's when I pushed away from him and ... decided it was time to get out of there."

"... When I think back on it, it was kind of like I was watching it in slow motion ... And, at the same time ... I thought, 'Well, maybe I ought to just give him a good slap across the face.' And then I thought, 'Well, I don't think you can slap the President of the United States."'

Hillary knew then, and she knows now, that Bill's a satyr. Indeed, Hillary was Bill's top damage-control strategist. It will be interesting to see if Hillary's book makes it into the fiction section of the nation's bookstores, where it belongs.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: clinton; dirtxpotus; evil; flowers; gennifer; hildebeast; hillary; hillaryknew; hitlary; impeachment; jones; levin; lewinsky; liar; livinghistory; paula; smartestwoman; twistinghistory
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1 posted on 06/04/2003 12:13:40 PM PDT by wcdukenfield
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To: wcdukenfield
Yep. This from the "smartest woman in America."
2 posted on 06/04/2003 12:15:37 PM PDT by brewcrew (It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. - Jonathan Swift)
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To: wcdukenfield
Of course she knew.
3 posted on 06/04/2003 12:16:51 PM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: holdonnow
Right to the point, as always.
4 posted on 06/04/2003 12:17:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: brewcrew
She's either stupid or a lying sack of xxx.
5 posted on 06/04/2003 12:17:36 PM PDT by revtown
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To: wcdukenfield

Hillary KNEW!


8 posted on 06/04/2003 12:19:02 PM PDT by ChadGore (Frustrate one liberal a day, that's all we ask.)
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To: wcdukenfield
The problem is not that Hillary is a complete fraud and liar. The problem is people believe her.

People believe her and Bill have an actual marraige and that she really cares how many women he bonks for any other reason than it ruining the image.

Then again, there are people who really believed Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson got married because they were in love.

9 posted on 06/04/2003 12:19:19 PM PDT by riri
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To: wcdukenfield
So after a half dozen indictments, the whole matter being referred to a Grand Jury and being prosecuted by a Special Prosecuter, she still didn't know until August of 1998?
Then she's too stupid to be in public office.
(Or she's lying and shouldn't be in public office.)
10 posted on 06/04/2003 12:19:41 PM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool (Relax. Don't worry. Have a homebrew.)
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To: wcdukenfield
OH, the horror! Must ... picture ... something else... puppies ... grandma ... ARRRG!
11 posted on 06/04/2003 12:19:58 PM PDT by Nexus
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To: revtown
ya think?
12 posted on 06/04/2003 12:20:14 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (What price treason?)
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To: revtown
She's either stupid or a lying sack of xxx.

My point exactly. She's either dumb or lying. Take your pick.
13 posted on 06/04/2003 12:20:31 PM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool (Relax. Don't worry. Have a homebrew.)
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To: hockessin
My plan is to place them in the science fiction section and the gardening section with the composting books.
14 posted on 06/04/2003 12:20:40 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: wcdukenfield
BTTT!
15 posted on 06/04/2003 12:20:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: revtown
She's either stupid or a lying sack of xxx.

Yep.

16 posted on 06/04/2003 12:21:26 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: riri
The problem is not that Hillary is a complete fraud and liar. The problem is people believe her.

People believe her and Bill have an actual marraige and that she really cares how many women he bonks for any other reason than it ruining the image.

Then again, there are people who really believed Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson got married because they were in love.

Next thing, I know you're going to do is make some crack about Pro Wrestling not being real...

17 posted on 06/04/2003 12:21:29 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: wcdukenfield
I don't believe for a second that Hillary didn't know about Bill's philandering. But I do have to admit that the more I see and hear of her, the more I understand his philandering.
18 posted on 06/04/2003 12:22:54 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: Brian Mosely
I don't believe a word that comes from her mouth.
19 posted on 06/04/2003 12:22:59 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: wcdukenfield
Title of this thread should be: "She Knew. Everyone Knew. Nobody Cares Anymore."

A big ho-hum for old news. Hitlery and the publisher's spin machine are going to have quite a job on their hands selling enough copies of this book to earn out the $8 million advance. In the immortal words of the '60s rock group The Fugs, "There's nothing as cold as yesterday's orgasm."

Anyone else remember the Fugs?
20 posted on 06/04/2003 12:23:18 PM PDT by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the CORRUPT liberal media)
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To: wcdukenfield
Folks, Just purchase Ann Coulter's new book "Treason" which will be on the shelves in about three weeks and send Annie to the top of the best seller charts and you will do more damage to Hillary Clinton then you can imagine! Get to it!
21 posted on 06/04/2003 12:24:39 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: wcdukenfield
I was trying to protect you and Chelsea

I wonder if what Hillary said and did in response to this 'explanation' was included in her book? LOL!
22 posted on 06/04/2003 12:26:38 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: everyone
Didn't Hillary hire Betsy Wright, to be in charge of bimbo eruptions?
23 posted on 06/04/2003 12:27:15 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: brewcrew
Yep she is the SMARTEST woman in the world but didn't know what EVERYONE else in the country knew.......and HE is the smartest man in the world who has trouble defining the word "IS".

I will give them ONE thing. They are without a doubt the BIGGEST CON-ARTISTS EVER to grace the political scene. Only a DEMOCRAT will buy there crap. You know those PEOPLE who VOTE DEMOCRAT because it is EASIER than THINKING!!

24 posted on 06/04/2003 12:29:05 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: hockessin
I'm just curious, and apologize if this thought has been discussed/discredited on another thread related to Mrs. Clinton's upcoming book, but... would it be worth considering going to bookstores and taking all the copies of Mrs. Clinton's book and scattering them in various sections of the store, behind other titles, where they will remain hidden and unsold?

LOL! What a hoot! This never occurred to my "level playing field" mind.

25 posted on 06/04/2003 12:29:52 PM PDT by brewcrew (It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. - Jonathan Swift)
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To: wcdukenfield
"Hillary knew then, and she knows now, that Bill's a satyr. Indeed, Hillary was Bill's top damage-control strategist. It will be interesting to see if Hillary's book makes it into the fiction section of the nation's bookstores, where it belongs."

Where it belongs is TRUE CRIME.


26 posted on 06/04/2003 12:31:00 PM PDT by Jumpmaster
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To: PoisedWoman
Yes, I remember the Fugs.


27 posted on 06/04/2003 12:31:29 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( Midnight at the Oasis)
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To: PoisedWoman
thanks for reminding me of that line! they were one of my "fave" bands.
28 posted on 06/04/2003 12:31:46 PM PDT by kallisti
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To: wcdukenfield
I mean, if she's stupid enough to believe BJ, how is she going to handle world leaders like Kim and Saddam?
29 posted on 06/04/2003 12:33:23 PM PDT by js1138
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To: wcdukenfield
These dramatic excerpts read like a B movie script from a Hollyweird script writer. Considering their close associations with Linda Bloodworth-Thompson and her husband and the Hollyweird crowd, it wouldn't be too far fetched.
30 posted on 06/04/2003 12:34:01 PM PDT by all4one
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To: wcdukenfield

31 posted on 06/04/2003 12:37:15 PM PDT by Nexus
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To: revtown
She's either stupid or a lying sack of xxx.

If we have to make a choice at least give us "all of the above" in the choices.

32 posted on 06/04/2003 12:40:26 PM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Bumping #21
33 posted on 06/04/2003 12:41:46 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: wcdukenfield
It will be interesting to see if Hillary's book makes it into the fiction section of the nation's bookstores, where it belongs.

I totally agree .. from what has been reported so far .. that book is full of BS!

34 posted on 06/04/2003 12:42:04 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: wcdukenfield
He just stood there saying over and over again, "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I was trying to protect you and Chelsea."
This he said AFTER he had lied about Monica and admited to the affair with Flowers. So...

We are to believe he found it critical to "protect you and Chelsea" about one mistress, but not about another.

Sorry, even the dumbest woman in America wouldn't believe that.

35 posted on 06/04/2003 12:42:12 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: N. Theknow
Remember to keep a good wad of Juicy Fruit ready when you leaf through this "book" at your local book store.
36 posted on 06/04/2003 12:42:36 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wcdukenfield

37 posted on 06/04/2003 12:43:06 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (A Government big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take it away - Davey Crockett)
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To: wcdukenfield
Well, here it is, Hillary as "victim, just like other women". Now all the Oprahites can fawn all over her and "feel her pain".

As for the rest of us women, Hillary, you aren't even in our league.

38 posted on 06/04/2003 12:44:03 PM PDT by luckodeirish (Go Hillary, Go! As in away!)
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To: wcdukenfield
Of course she knew. What she doesnt know is that no one is buying her crap anymore.
39 posted on 06/04/2003 12:44:17 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: wcdukenfield
I saw this on Fox and Friends when I got up this morning. The first thing I thought of (after, "Oh please!") was Barbara Olsens book (I don't remember if it was in Hell to Pay or The Final Days) where she talks about Bill and Hillary having dinner with another couple and the whole time Bill was hot and heavy with the other woman and Hillary was hot and heavy with the other man. Then they got into a limo to go home and fooled around the whole ride back. (I guess I'm kind of naive, because I had to read that passage several times to make sure I read it right, because I couldn't believe it)

She knew and probably gave her blessings. It was less time she had to deal with him. I know I'm not telling anyone anything they don't already know, but these people make me so replused.
40 posted on 06/04/2003 12:44:35 PM PDT by retrokitten
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To: wcdukenfield
I could hardly breathe. Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him... <---Funny thats the same thing Monica said! : )
41 posted on 06/04/2003 12:45:11 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: PoisedWoman
"Roll on, roll on River of *hit"

Yeah I remember them.
42 posted on 06/04/2003 12:45:31 PM PDT by don'tbedenied
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Remember to keep a good wad of Juicy Fruit ready when you leaf through this "book" at your local book store.

GOOD Thinking!

43 posted on 06/04/2003 12:46:06 PM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: revtown
She's either stupid or a lying sack of xxx.

Neither. She is a lawyer. She didn't know about the EVIDENCE until the last minute. The blue dress is the key. As long as there is no Exibit A, there is no crime.

Well. She not stupid. The other option you suggested probably still valid.

44 posted on 06/04/2003 12:46:13 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: wcdukenfield
Hillary writes:

I seriously doubt she wrote a danged thing.

45 posted on 06/04/2003 12:46:28 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: wcdukenfield
To fill in the blanks:

He admitted to one infidelity and denied another in the same deposition.

The difference between the two was: the admission would not affect the case in which he was the defendant , the second had direct bearing on his guilt in the alledged offense.

His decision to admit or deny was not based on protecting Hillary and Chelsea, but on protecting Bill - as always.
46 posted on 06/04/2003 12:48:15 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: wcdukenfield
Hilliary didn`t know ? They have got to make this into a soap show, something they should do on Saturday night live. "What are you saying bill?" (dramatic music)"NO NO NO" Tune in next week for "as the world turns around Bill and Hill"
47 posted on 06/04/2003 12:48:22 PM PDT by metalboy (Liberals, what a dictator needs most.)
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To: revtown
How about both?
48 posted on 06/04/2003 12:48:38 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: wcdukenfield
Not only did she know, but she was doing some of it herself.
49 posted on 06/04/2003 12:52:31 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Shriner's Childrens Hospitals Provide Free Medical Care to Those In Need.)
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To: wcdukenfield
I could hardly breathe. (I was) Gulping for air...

He has that effect on women. V's wife.

50 posted on 06/04/2003 12:57:52 PM PDT by ventana
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