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SARS worries surround birth of twins
cnews ^ | 06.06.03 | Helen Branswel

Posted on 06/06/2003 6:34:06 PM PDT by riri

TORONTO (CP) -- The city's SARS outbreak took a distressing turn Friday with news that a medical resident was likely coming down with SARS when he was present for the delivery of a set of twins at a downtown hospital during a full day's work earlier this week.

The health-care worker was believed to be infected May 23 at North York General Hospital and didn't show with symptoms until two days past the 10-day incubation period, said Dr. Donald Low, a key member of the city's SARS containment team. He was showing no symptoms when he assisted in the delivery of the twins and worked a 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. shift Wednesday at Mount Sinai Hospital's labour and delivery ward, Low said. He came down with symptoms the next day.

Five women and their newborns have been told to go into isolation at home, away from the rest of their families, and another 20 who had little or no contact with the resident were under surveillance, Low added.

Few victims of SARS have been infants, but rather the elderly or those with underlying health problems.

"We feel that this really is a case," Low said of the medical resident. "We're treating it is a case although it's still under investigation."

If so, it will raise troubling questions about the safety of relying on a 10-day incubation period -- and a quarantine period of equal length -- to stop the spread of the disease.

The health-care worker, exposed to the virus at North York General Hospital -- the epicentre of the lastest outbreak -- was placed in quarantine.

He did not develop symptoms and was cleared to leave quarantine after the 10-day incubation period elapsed. He returned to work -- this time, at Mount Sinai -- and on Day 12 developed a fever, sparking the current investigation.

He has been admitted to one of the four city hospitals treating SARS patients; he is being held in respiratory isolation while he undergoes further tests.

In yet another of the ironic twists that have been characteristic of Toronto's SARS experience, word of the potential new case came the day after Low had reported the growth curve of the current outbreak had flattened to "zero."

Dr. James Young, Ontario's commissioner of public security, echoed Low's optimism. "We're not seeing surprise cases," he said Thursday.

From time to time since SARS exploded onto the world's consciousness earlier this spring critics have questioned whether it was safe to assume the disease's incubation period was 10 days. There have been occasional reports of people coming down with symptoms as late as 14 days after exposure to the virus.

The World Health Organization has visited and revisited the issue, knowing that countries with SARS outbreaks were using the official incubation period to determine how long people who had been exposed to the disease needed to be in quarantine to stop further spread of the disease.

Its most recent position, dated May 7, says careful review of data from all areas suffering outbreaks confirms 10 days is the maximum incubation period in most cases where a single exposure to the virus has taken place.

Ontario's SARS containment leaders too have debated the issue, with the aim of trying to balance the need to stop spread of the disease and the need to disrupt lives of people who are told to go into quarantine for the least amount of time possible.

They have argued that it is hard enough to persuade someone to isolate themselves in their homes for 10 days; asking them to do so for two full weeks could provoke a compliance problem.


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asymptomatic; canada; donaldlow; fipv; incubation; quarantine; sars; toronto; twins
More evidence that the incubation period extends beyond 10 days.
1 posted on 06/06/2003 6:34:06 PM PDT by riri
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2 posted on 06/06/2003 6:35:23 PM PDT by riri
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To: riri
They have argued that it is hard enough to persuade someone to isolate themselves in their homes for 10 days; asking them to do so for two full weeks could provoke a compliance problem.

Well, let's just do it for 10 days, then. Who cares what the evidence shows?

3 posted on 06/06/2003 6:38:27 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: riri
SARS bump.
4 posted on 06/06/2003 6:57:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Hey there, Blam.

My neighbor was released from hospital today. He is still running the temperature but they said there is not much they can do. His wife said they have tested him for everything under the sun. They released him with viral meningitis, viral pneumonia and mono.

When I talked to her he was running a 103plus temp but they can't give him any tylenol bacause of his liver functions.

It is so weird.

5 posted on 06/06/2003 7:06:25 PM PDT by riri
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"When I talked to her he was running a 103plus temp but they can't give him any tylenol bacause of his liver functions."

Glad to hear he is back home but, he doesn't seem much better. How do you get all those ailments at the same time?

6 posted on 06/06/2003 7:21:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: Dog Gone
If you do it for 10 days, I wouldn't think it would be all that much harder to do it for a few more days. I would have thought the hardest thing would be setting yourself up to start the quarantine in the first place.
7 posted on 06/06/2003 7:27:04 PM PDT by aristeides
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Ping.
8 posted on 06/06/2003 7:27:43 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: blam
I don't think he has any of those ailments. They threw mono into the mix because he tested postive for. But most cases of mono occur before twenty five and are asymptomatic. So he probably unknowingly had in his youth.

They don't have a clue. I just really hope I never have to be hospitalized.

9 posted on 06/06/2003 7:28:24 PM PDT by riri
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Can Sars strike without causing any symptoms?
10 posted on 06/06/2003 7:29:34 PM PDT by aristeides
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Some more information on the health worker here: Toronto Maternity Ward Worker Probed for SARS.
11 posted on 06/06/2003 7:33:37 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: riri
They have argued that it is hard enough to persuade someone to isolate themselves in their homes for 10 days; asking them to do so for two full weeks could provoke a compliance problem.

That's what big, strapping coppers and Crowbar Motels are for.

12 posted on 06/06/2003 7:34:26 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: riri
Jeez, he should get himself to a university hospital for a second opinion.
13 posted on 06/06/2003 7:36:07 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: aristeides
Checking in.

aristeides,
If the info in that article is true; asymptomatic carriers might not be contagious, that would be the best SARS news I've ever read. The mortality rate would also plummet.
14 posted on 06/06/2003 7:39:44 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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People who come down with SARS are apparently only minimally infective before they show symptoms. I suspect the same would be the case with people infected with SARS who never show symptoms.
15 posted on 06/06/2003 7:42:00 PM PDT by aristeides
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The last time I heard of a case like that it was of Rickettsial origin. Me and Price Charles agree, get your friend to a University hospital before its too late.
16 posted on 06/06/2003 7:43:34 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: aristeides
In felines, kittens infected with FIPV are asymptomatic until eight to twelve weeks of age and then express the disease in serious ways, which coincides with the startup of the active immune response by the kittens. These cases are going to be interesting if the babies are infected.
17 posted on 06/06/2003 7:46:59 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Some of the Hong Kong newborns developed symptoms quickly and are ok. It's the Moms that died.
18 posted on 06/06/2003 9:12:12 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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I hope your friend wasn't being treated at Kaiser!
19 posted on 06/06/2003 9:13:47 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: riri
I had mono in college. I was swollen and aching all over. My eyes aches, back behind my eyes. I couldn't get up off the floor. I couldn't eat, sleep, or drink. I was nauseated. I don't remember if I what my temp. was. My doctor didn't diagnose was mono at first and he gave me penicillin, which turns out, I was very allergic to. I almost died. The nurses at the clinic said I was the sickest patient they ever had there, and that clinic looked like it was about 100 years old. They gave me IV fluids. I was in hospital for a week. I was VERY ill for a month. It was many months before I got my energy back. Mono can be a nasty thing. None of my roommates, nor my boyfriend, caught it from me. Between the mono and the allergic reaction to the penicillin, I was so swollen and had red and purple hives all over me. My sister said I looked like Porky Pig. Looking back, I often wonder if it might have been meningitis. This was in 1970. The more I read about meningitis, the more I think that is what I really had. In that case I guess the antibiotics were a good idea?
Bad part, I didn't lose any weight! Darn!
20 posted on 06/07/2003 3:13:33 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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