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Print islifted from human remains
Davis Enterprise.com ^ | June 9, 2003 | Lauren Keene/Enterprise staff writer

Posted on 06/09/2003 3:17:16 AM PDT by runningbear

Print islifted from human remains

Print islifted from human remains

By Lauren Keene/Enterprise staff writer

Investigators in the case of the human remains found in Davis last week were able to extract a fingerprint from one of the parts Friday, but it failed to match any prints on file with the state Department of Justice.

Now, authorities are looking to the FBI, DNA experts and a forensic anthropologist to help determine whose remains they are and how they came to be disposed of next to a trash Dumpster in the Slatter's Court community on Olive Drive.

Mary Koompin-Williams, Yolo County supervising deputy coroner, said the FBI has a national databank that might provide useful information, including whether other agencies have reported similar discoveries.

Investigators are also relying on a Department of Justice lab in Richmond to extract DNA from the remains, as well as a forensic anthropologist at Chico State University to determine the races, genders and ages of the four or more people the remains are believed to have come from.

"Now it's just hurry up and wait, I guess," Koompin-Williams said.

The Davis Police Department continues to seek information from residents who may know something about the case. The department can be reached at 747-5400.

Five days have passed since a Slatter's Court maintenance worker made the grisly discovery -- decomposed, mummified and skeletal remains inside a plastic bin, set next to an overfilled Dumpster.

The case has attracted national attention since then, said Koompin-Williams, who in recent days has fielded phone calls from media outlets such as CNN and the news programs "60 Minutes" and "20/20."

She also received a call from the office of Mark Geragos, the defense attorney in the Laci Peterson homicide case who has theorized a serial killer murdered Laci Peterson, not her accused husband Scott.

As the Davis case unfolded last week, investigators noted that some of the parts were the same as those missing from the Modesto woman's body when it washed up in the Bay Area in April. While coroner's officials haven't totally discounted that possibility, Koompin-Williams said it's unlikely, as the remains appear to have come from a woman older than Laci Peterson.

Davis police Lt. Jim Harritt said last week that authorities are pursuing three theories in the case: that the remains are the result of a homicide, were taken from a grave or removed from a medical research facility and improperly disposed of.

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Recap from Friday

Autopsy reports to remain sealed, wire taps and gag order will be decided later

Autopsy reports to remain sealed, wire taps and gag order will be decided later

Fri Jun 6, 5:07 PM ET Add Crimes and Trials - Court TV to My Yahoo!

By Harriet Ryan, Court TV

MODESTO, Calif. (Court TV) — A judge refused Friday to make public autopsy reports of Scott Peterson (news - web sites)'s murdered wife and unborn son. The prosecution had argued that leaks of details favorable to the defense made full-disclosure of the documents fair.

"I don't think releasing the entire report is called for," Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami ruled during a hearing on several wide-ranging issues in the double-murder case against Peterson. "The mere fact that someone leaked out part" of Laci and Conner Peterson's report to the press "does not justify releasing all of it until the parties have an opportunity to thoroughly investigate this matter."

The discussion of the autopsy provided a rare moment of emotion in an otherwise dry proceeding on procedural matters. Although attorneys carefully avoided mentioning any details of the coroner's reports, Scott Peterson, consistently stoic in past court hearings, squeezed his eyes shut tightly and appeared near tears during the discussion. In the front row of the gallery, Laci Peterson (news - web sites)'s mother, Sharon Rocha, began weeping at the initial mention of the autopsies and buried her head on the shoulder of her husband, who quickly rose and escorted her from the courtroom.

Last week, MSNBC reported that the autopsy report noted a "noose" of tape around Conner Peterson's neck. That information appeared to support defense suggestions that the victims may have been killed by a satanic cult.

The district attorney's office angrily noted last week that the leaks slanted toward the defense position, but in court Friday, Mark Geragos, Peterson's attorney, insisted he had nothing to do with the disclosure.

Lawyers also discussed a potential gag order in the case. Prosecutors are calling for a limited order that would hold all attorneys and their employees including police officers and defense investigators to the California legal bar's rules for trial publicity. Witnesses would not be covered by such an order.

Those rules prohibit lawyers from making statements to the press that have "a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing" a case, but allow them to defend their client's reputation from prejudicial media coverage.

Geragos opposed the gag order saying it created a vacuum of information that the media would fill with speculation instead of fact.

"The people who actually know the facts end up being muzzled," said Geragos.

Girolami said he would rule at a later date on the gag order.

The judge put off until June 26 a hearing on wire taps of Peterson's phone by police. Investigators monitored more than 3,000 calls to Peterson's phones before his arrest. The defense alleges that police improperly monitored 69 calls between Peterson and his defense team and has asked Judge Girolami to punish prosecutors by throwing out the charges against Peterson or excluding certain witnesses or testimony.

Geragos said he was not prepared to argue for those sanctions because he still had not received all the paperwork from prosecutor's concerning the wiretaps. The judge ordered police to provide the defense with the paperwork as well as recordings of all 3,000 wiretaps.

The judge also refused several journalists access to recordings of their wire-tapped conversations with Peterson. Reporters had asked to review the recordings prior to the police handing them over to lawyers.

Also attending the hearing was Gloria Allred, who represents Amber Frey, the massage therapist who had a month-long relationship ......

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Defendant Scott Peterson appeared near tears during discussion of autopsy reports

Autopsy reports to remain sealed, wire taps and gag order will be decided later

By Harriet Ryan
Court TV
MODESTO, Calif. — A judge refused Friday to make public autopsy reports of Scott Peterson's murdered wife and unborn son. The prosecution had argued that leaks of details favorable to the defense made full-disclosure of the documents fair.

"I don't think releasing the entire report is called for," Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami ruled during a hearing on several wide-ranging issues in the double-murder case against Peterson. "The mere fact that someone leaked out part" of Laci and Conner Peterson's report to the press "does not justify releasing all of it until the parties have an opportunity to thoroughly investigate this matter."

The discussion of the autopsy provided a rare moment of emotion in an otherwise dry proceeding on procedural matters. Although attorneys carefully avoided mentioning any details of the coroner's reports, Scott Peterson, consistently stoic in past court hearings, squeezed his eyes shut tightly and appeared near tears during the discussion. In the front row of the gallery, Laci Peterson's mother, Sharon Rocha, began weeping at the initial mention of the autopsies and buried her head on the shoulder of her husband, who quickly rose and escorted her from the courtroom.

Last week, MSNBC reported that the autopsy report noted a "noose" of tape around Conner Peterson's neck. That information appeared to support defense suggestions that the victims may have been killed by a satanic cult.

The district attorney's office angrily noted last week that the leaks slanted toward the defense position, but in court Friday, Mark Geragos, Peterson's attorney, insisted he had nothing to do with the disclosure.

Lawyers also discussed a potential gag order in the case. Prosecutors are calling for a limited order that would hold all attorneys and their employees including police officers and defense investigators to the California legal bar's rules for trial publicity. Witnesses would not be covered by such an order.

Those rules prohibit lawyers from making statements to the press that have "a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing" a case, but allow them to defend their client's reputation from prejudicial media coverage.

Defense lawyer Geragos denies being source of autopsy leaks.

Geragos opposed the gag order saying it created a vacuum of information that the media would fill with speculation instead of fact.

"The people who actually know the facts end up being muzzled," said Geragos.


Defense lawyer Geragos denies being source of autopsy leaks.

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Death certificates opened for Laci Peterson and son

Recap

Posted on Sat, Jun. 07, 2003

Death certificates opened for Laci Peterson and son

By BRIAN ANDERSON and CLAIRE BOOTH
Contra Costa Times

MODESTO, Calif. - The Contra Costa County Coroner's Office could not determine a cause of death for Laci Peterson, but concluded that her son was born dead.

The coroner lists Peterson's manner of death as homicide. Death certificates for the 27-year-old and the son with whom she was eight months pregnant were made public late Friday.

A judge agreed earlier in the day to allow release of the documents, but kept sealed the results of the two autopsies.

During two hours of courtroom wrangling, Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami told Scott Peterson's defense lawyers and the prosecutors who have charged him with the murders of his wife and child that the report will remain sealed until a preliminary hearing.

The death certificates were filed in Contra Costa County on Friday. Signed April 21, they are the official record of Laci and Conner Peterson's deaths.

The filings do not mean the remains will be released to Laci Peterson's family. A court order requires the coroner's office to retain custody of the remains until told otherwise by a judge, said coroner's spokesman Jimmy Lee.

Laci Peterson's family does not know when that will be, said family spokeswoman Kim Petersen. "It's a very tough time for them," she said Friday.

The death certificates contain the time and place of death. For Laci Peterson, the coroner's office specifies the date she was found on the Richmond shoreline, April 14.

Conner Peterson was found a day earlier. That is specified on his fetal death certificate, along with where he was found along the Richmond shoreline. Fetal death certificates have no category for a cause of death. Conner's does specify that he was born dead.

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Trial survey may open your eyes to pool of closed-minded answers

Trial survey may open your eyes to pool of closed-minded answers

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: June 8, 2003, 05:26:30 PM PDT

It's all about bias.
Of course, not your bias -- you don't have any, right?

You'll soon see, if you take the accompanying survey. It's nearly identical to the one conducted recently in Stanislaus County, to suggest whether a Modesto man accused in a double-murder case could get a fair trial here.

Though some people readily admit that they're closed-minded, most like to think that they could weigh the evidence carefully and make a rational decision. But, often, reality and what people like to think are different things.

Lawyers and judges question prospective jurors before a trial to help reveal biases that people may not know they have. The questioning comes during what is called "voir dire," French for "to speak the truth" -- the process of examining members of the jury pool to see if they are qualified and suitable to serve.

If the judge doesn't like an answer, he or she can dismiss a prospective juror. Attorneys on both sides can use peremptory challenges to accomplish the same thing, without giving a reason.

When a crime draws more attention than usual, courts and lawyers often survey the community before starting jury selection. Carefully worded questions can help determine whether the mood against a defendant is so strong that open-minded jurors are not likely to be found, in which case a trial can be moved.

Such surveys usually are conducted at random by telephone. A standard response is 400 people, experts say.

Now take a few minutes to answer the questions in this survey. Come back for grading when you're through.

Take The Survey
How did you do?

If you answered no to either A or B, that's it. You have to be at least 18 and live in Stanislaus County to serve on a jury in Modesto.

If you answered no to both C and D, you aren't eligible because court officials draw potential jurors only from lists of voters or people with driver's licenses. If you answered yes to either one, keep going.

Question 5 tells you the subject of the survey: the disappearance of a pregnant woman from her Modesto home, and the subsequent arrest of her husband on charges of killing his wife and their unborn child. Questions 9 and 10 tell you husband and wife's names for the first time, just in case you didn't know.

If you answered yes on question 11, you're done. Lawyers on either side don't like putting a verdict in the hands of closed-minded people.

Friday afternoon, while walking in downtown Modesto, Peterson's lead attorney, Mark Geragos, peered at drivers and pedestrians and mused out loud that only a fraction of them hadn't made up their minds about his client.

Peterson has pleaded not guilty to two murder charges, one for his wife and one for their unborn son, Conner. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

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Stuntmen and women get proper recognition Today on TV

Snip it:

At a glance

Test the Nation (8 p.m.-10 p.m., WBFF, Channel 45) - How you feel about this special may well depend on the ending. Leeza Gibbons will lead a studio audience through an IQ test, while brave (or foolhardy?) viewers can use the Internet to give their answers and calculate their own IQs. Fox.

Dateline NBC (10 p.m.-11 p.m., WBAL, Channel 11) - This special edition of the news show features the family of Laci Peterson talking with Katie Couric in their first network interview since the bodies of Laci and her unborn baby were discovered last month. Couric also talked with childhood friends and the principal of Laci's former high school about her life, their memories of her, the day she went missing, her husband Scott and the allegations against him. NBC.

(Excerpt) Read more at davisenterprise.com ...


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just a few stories from the Friday's court hearing, and the follow up on the bodies found in the dumpsters last week.
1 posted on 06/09/2003 3:17:17 AM PDT by runningbear
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
Pinging..... have a crazy 2 days at work, so I might only have to lurk thru out these days... ;o(
2 posted on 06/09/2003 3:18:56 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Devil_Anse; nycgal; crystalk; pbear8; L84AD8; vikingchick; Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; ...
Pinging..... have a crazy 2 days at work, so I might only have to lurk thru out these days... ;o(
3 posted on 06/09/2003 3:19:27 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Joan912; KneelBeforeZod; justshe; Alissa; Tijeras_Slim; TXLady; zip; Faith65; fiesti; pitinkie; ...
Pinging..... have a crazy 2 days at work, so I might only have to lurk thru out these days... ;o(
4 posted on 06/09/2003 3:20:02 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Morning, rb! Thank you for the ping!!
5 posted on 06/09/2003 4:10:49 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear
Morning! Thanks for the ping. Is there a hearing tomorrow? I thought I heard one of the talking heads mention it over the weekend.
6 posted on 06/09/2003 6:50:01 AM PDT by melodie (Phew!!! Now I know why people call this place Humidston.)
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the ping, RB. Good luck on getting thru your next 2 days. If you're going to be lurking, I'll wave to you every once in awhile.
7 posted on 06/09/2003 7:12:59 AM PDT by justshe
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To: runningbear; All
Thanks RB. Here's one for you while you lurk. Hurry back!

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/6820999p-7771309c.html

Did he or didn't he?

Attorney General Bill Lockyer continues to get beat up for comments attributed to him in various press reports about the Scott Peterson case and the murder of Peterson's pregnant wife, Laci, and her unborn child.
One of the first barbs came in a Time magazine interview with Jackie Peterson, Scott's mother, in which she said, "You have (Lockyer) calling this a slam-dunk before there's even an arraignment. I'm feeling like I'm living in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union."

The Lockyer quote has been picked up repeatedly by the news media, with NBC's "Dateline" airing it again as recently as June 1.

Trouble is, Lockyer insists he never said it -- at least not in the context that it's reported.

During a recent lunch with the Capitol press corps, Lockyer said the comment referred only to DNA evidence confirming the identity of Laci Peterson and her almost full-term baby after they were fished out of the San Francisco Bay in April.

"I was asked, 'Is this science all sort of mumbo jumbo?' " he said of his exchange with reporters on the day the bodies were identified.

"And I said, what it means is no criminal defense attorney ... could be able to rebut this evidence. This is absolute factual slam-dunk that this is Laci Peterson and the fetus of Laci and Scott.

"I do not know the evidence in the DA's case or any other specifics about it. I wish him success, but that's as much as I know about it."
8 posted on 06/09/2003 8:12:21 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: runningbear; All
Laci "missing button" for sale on e-bay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3227065810&category=2036
9 posted on 06/09/2003 8:17:34 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: runningbear
From the article: "She also received a call from the office of Mark Geragos, the defense attorney in the Laci Peterson homicide case who has theorized a serial killer murdered Laci Peterson, not her accused husband Scott."

"As the Davis case unfolded last week, investigators noted that some of the parts were the same as those missing from the Modesto woman's body when it washed up in the Bay Area in April. While coroner's officials haven't totally discounted that possibility, Koompin-Williams said it's unlikely, as the remains appear to have come from a woman older than Laci Peterson."


I suppose the Geragos team must follow-up on any possible lead, but I am glad to see that although some of the parts matched those reported to be missing from Laci, the 'woman's parts' "appears to be from an older woman. If they DO turn out to be remains from Laci, there would have to be an accomplice, as these were found only 5 days ago (recognizing that "found" and "put there" could be different).
10 posted on 06/09/2003 8:20:37 AM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
From the article: "She also received a call from the office of Mark Geragos, the defense attorney in the Laci Peterson homicide case who has theorized a serial killer murdered Laci Peterson, not her accused husband Scott."

Ok, now how many different scenarios has Geragos floated.

1-Satan ritual cult
2-Donny or the guy with 666 tattoo's (may be the same guy)
3-Brown Van
4-Laci's Family planting evidence and stealing a pair of shoes.
5-Now it's a serial killer!!!!

Anything else????????

BTW, he sure was trying to squeeze out a tear or two. What a terrible acting job. That's his lawyer's advise--"you better show a little emotion" or no one will believe any of our stories!! Did anyone see the actual replay of the hearing? After the few dabs of a hankie, when his lawyer stood up and partially blocked the camera angle he stopped wiping his eyes.
11 posted on 06/09/2003 8:39:06 AM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: Velveeta
Gee, why does that not surprise me that the media might be reporting only a selective portion of a statement? I had read/heard that statement repeatedly, by Lockyer and took it as fact. Thanks for posting that column and his comments.
12 posted on 06/09/2003 8:42:45 AM PDT by justshe
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To: WestCoastGal
Yes.....the list grows. Although....I suppose....in all fairness, #'s 1, 2, 3, and 5......MIGHT all be the same theory.....just nuanced differently.

1-Satan ritual cult
2-Donny or the guy with 666 tattoo's (may be the same guy)
3-Brown Van
4-Laci's Family planting evidence and stealing a pair of shoes.
5-Now it's a serial killer!!!!

This is just the beginning too, I'm betting. Shoot a shotgun at a target and hope that ONE of the 'shot' hits the mark?

13 posted on 06/09/2003 8:47:55 AM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
You're welcome. Seems the media bought into the spin on this one.
14 posted on 06/09/2003 8:57:32 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
Not just the media.....(blushing).

I REMEMBER seeing the clip of his comments very early on....now I want to see it again!
15 posted on 06/09/2003 8:59:04 AM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
Shoot a shotgun at a target and hope that ONE of the 'shot' hits the mark?

I guess that's the purpose of a shotgun. He doesn't have to prove who did it. He just has to show that it was possible for someone else to do it.

16 posted on 06/09/2003 9:11:32 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: FreePaul
I guess that's the purpose of a shotgun. He doesn't have to prove who did it. He just has to show that it was possible for someone else to do it.

Exactly. "Reasonable doubt"....precludes the necessity for hard evidence, I suppose. That is why I am hoping the DA has some VERY specific evidence that supports the case against SP.

17 posted on 06/09/2003 9:22:29 AM PDT by justshe
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To: All; runningbear
From the rest of the article on the Davis case.

"However, they included the single finger digit that yielded the fingerprint, which Koompin-Williams said was obtained using a chemical lift-off process. No match was found when the DOJ, using its automated system, compared it to fingerprints on file."

"That's not unusual, though, she noted, since many people do not have a full set of fingerprints on file. Those who do include public safety employees and people with criminal records, although in recent years fingerprinting has also become required for people pursuing jobs in teaching, caregiving or similar careers."
Print is lifted

This article says in recent years fingerprinting was done on teachers, etc. My husband was an educator in Calif. from 1961-79 and he said they fingerprinted way back then.

Since Laci was a teacher her fingerprints would have been on file. Since there was no match in the system, these parts didn't belong to Laci.

My opinion is what was mentioned in the article: ".........removed from a medical research facility and improperly disposed of.",

If I am not mistaken there is a big medical research facility at Davis.

Am I correct in thinking that runningbear?

18 posted on 06/09/2003 9:23:51 AM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the ping
19 posted on 06/09/2003 9:31:21 AM PDT by joyce11111
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To: justshe
I just hope that the DA prosecutes and get a conviction on the person who committed these crimes whoever it is.
20 posted on 06/09/2003 9:33:03 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: melodie; All
Able to sneak this little time in. Pending court dates:

court dates

This list was last updated on June 6, 2003.

Date: June 26, 2003 - 8:30 am (Thursday)

Location: Department 5 (Judge Girolami) - Criminal matter Event: Further hearing on the Media's request for access to their intercepted calls and on Defense's request for sanctions
Seating: Media must submit a request via fax on June 24, 2003 (Media pool approved) - Click here for media form

Date: July 9, 2003 - 8:30 am (Wednesday)

Location: Department 2 (Judge Girolami) - Criminal matter Event: Further pretrial and a hearing issue of media coverage of the preliminary hearing - also any potential defense request to close a preliminary hearing.

Seating: Media must submit a request when announced (Media pool not decided - TBA)

Date: July 16, 2003 - 8:30 am (Wednesday)

Location: Department 2 (Judge Al Girolami) Event: Preliminary Hearing - Criminal matter Seating: TBA pending hearing on media coverage

21 posted on 06/09/2003 9:48:18 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Velveeta
thanks vel, Lockyear has lots of problems, and to become a gov, my opinion, no dice!
22 posted on 06/09/2003 9:48:58 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Thanks, rb! You do such a great job!
23 posted on 06/09/2003 9:51:26 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Spunky
Not sure but this would awaken your eyes.

Medical Waste Management Plan

Possible MG is stretching again....

On Laci, seems like your post could be logical on Laci being finger printed, and background to become or work around school children, so I am sure they have her prints on file, NCIC or per employment.

24 posted on 06/09/2003 9:55:26 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Sandylapper
ya'll welcome... ;o)
25 posted on 06/09/2003 9:56:08 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: justshe
thank you... ;o)
26 posted on 06/09/2003 10:12:01 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Devil_Anse; Spunky; oceanperch; jdontom; RGSpincich; All
Update from your comments on yesterday's thread of the 9yr old who was kidnapped Friday in San Jose, interesting to read KCBS details, and KTVU security camera capturing the events

San Jose Police Make Arrest in Connection with Kidnapping of Nine-Year Old Girl


Jennette Tamayo

Kidnapped San Jose Girl Found; 'Possible' Suspect Arrested

security camera of kidnapping

27 posted on 06/09/2003 10:28:05 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: joyce11111
welcome ;o)
28 posted on 06/09/2003 10:35:53 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear

29 posted on 06/09/2003 10:45:26 AM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
It's almost TOO quiet here today...... :)
30 posted on 06/09/2003 10:49:02 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: runningbear

Scumbags don't get much more repulsive than this.

31 posted on 06/09/2003 10:53:37 AM PDT by The Great Satan ("Donít bother to examine a folly Ė ask yourself only what it accomplishes." - Ayn Rand)
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To: bonfire
It is...lol.

32 posted on 06/09/2003 11:05:42 AM PDT by justshe
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To: The Great Satan

Scumbags don't get much more repulsive than this.


At the risk of sounding presumptive......this one just MIGHT!


33 posted on 06/09/2003 11:11:27 AM PDT by justshe
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To: runningbear
"Not sure but this would awaken your eyes."

Yes it did awaken my eyes. It appears that they have to be very careful how they dispose of anyone who has died from contagious deseases, or contamination of high level radioactivity, etc.

And yes I found UC Davis has a school of medicine, which provides research etc.

Welcome to UC Davis Health System, a unique partnership between UC Davis Medical Group, UC Davis Medical Center and UC Davis School of Medicine, providing the organizational framework that enables UC Davis to fulfill core teaching, research, patient care and public service missions.
Welcome to the UC Davis Health System

Like I said it appears someone goofed in disposing of the body parts.

If MG thinks he can get by with this one, he will fail just like he has on all the rest of his theories.

34 posted on 06/09/2003 11:11:44 AM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: runningbear
Kidnapped San Jose Girl Found; 'Possible' Suspect Arrested

What a blessing.

So far little Sofia Juarez is still missing. :-(

35 posted on 06/09/2003 11:13:55 AM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: justshe
Made for each other! It's so romantic.
36 posted on 06/09/2003 11:13:57 AM PDT by The Great Satan ("Donít bother to examine a folly Ė ask yourself only what it accomplishes." - Ayn Rand)
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To: runningbear
I would hope Scott's prints are on file? Have they specifically been checked? If not, why not?
37 posted on 06/09/2003 11:15:32 AM PDT by nmh
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To: The Great Satan
Made for each other! It's so romantic.

ROFL! Well....one of the tabloids DID raise that possibility!

38 posted on 06/09/2003 11:17:29 AM PDT by justshe
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To: runningbear
Just curious ... has anyone heard what credentials Amber Frey has for being a massage therapist? Respectable massage therapists go to school for this speciality/ Where'd Amber go to school? What courses did she take or degree earned? Or is this knowledge obtained from her expereince behind closed doors as a stripper?

Even descpicable Larry Flynn got it right. Her view, that is Amber's view of being a massage therapist is another word for prostitute. Wait till the defense interviews some of Amber's customers ... . He'll totally trash her credibility.

39 posted on 06/09/2003 11:20:59 AM PDT by nmh
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To: nmh
Wait till the defense interviews some of Amber's customers ... . He'll totally trash her credibility.

About what? Scott has already admitted he was having an affair with her.

If the defense shows that his girlfriend was a prostitute, it will make Scott's affair look even sleazier than it already looks. Why would the defense want to do that, unless they are totally incompetent (well, maybe they are....)?

40 posted on 06/09/2003 11:33:49 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
About what?

I was wondering the same.

41 posted on 06/09/2003 11:37:47 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (This is for those watching over at LoserPost. We know you read FR more than your own site. LOL !!)
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To: nmh; jdontom
oh, I am sure once he was arrested, finger printed, they ran his prints. Reason you might not of heard anything, is because he may not have a record on file? Only DMV thumb print.
42 posted on 06/09/2003 11:38:48 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: justshe
Ahhh, the old Vicks on the handkerchief to draw out the tears...
43 posted on 06/09/2003 11:38:49 AM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: Spunky
Yeah, I saw her flyier on a missing person link over the weekend... Meant to link to ya, but had to leave shortly after, and you are just now reminding me... ;o)
44 posted on 06/09/2003 11:39:56 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Spunky
LOL....think so too!
45 posted on 06/09/2003 11:40:41 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: nmh
I don't give Flynt any credibility when commenting on criminal and witness case, coming from 'his' background.... ;o)
46 posted on 06/09/2003 11:42:22 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
On Laci, seems like your post could be logical on Laci being finger printed, and background to become or work around school children, so I am sure they have her prints on file, NCIC or per employment.

IIRC, Laci has an assault charge in her background. If she was indeed charged and booked, fingerprints would be on file.

Since the defense is no doubt behind the Amber Frey attacks, it's only a matter of time before they start trashing Laci.

47 posted on 06/09/2003 11:45:03 AM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: Diver Dave
the assault that it was alledged that Laci popped another person, was at age 17 yrs, which would be a juvie record. But yes, still prints would be on file, but the records would be sealed?

Even in the case of teaching, employment in schools, background checks I believe are by law now because of the young teenager slain in Lodi area a couple of years ago by a convicted felon, employed as a janitor at that school. So, yes, defense will try all they can to save their client's life...;o)

48 posted on 06/09/2003 11:53:53 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Spunky
I hope Geragos DOES make a big to do over this find and then if it turns out to be from the Medical Research Facility it should be blatantly obvious to "most everyone" that he's f-i-s-h-i-n-g!! for a Defense. He really has Nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of substance other than his "mentally ill rape victim"!!
49 posted on 06/09/2003 12:04:30 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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