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Tiny tracking chips surface in retail use
The Boston Globe ^ | 6/9/2003 | Chris Gaither

Posted on 06/09/2003 3:31:33 PM PDT by Radix

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:10:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

MORGAN HILL, Calif. -- Tom Pounds waved his overflowing grocery basket at the wall and offered a glimpse of our shopping future. The coffee cans, razor blades, and other items in his basket each carried a stowaway -- a tiny chip, the size of a fleck of black pepper, coupled with an antenna. Each emitted a short burst of identifying data that streamed via radio waves to a sensor on the wall.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 1984; bigbrother; bravenewworld; techindex
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I thought a bit about an appropriate comment here.

Those of you who can discern will, well, you will discern

1 posted on 06/09/2003 3:31:33 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Radix
Would carrying a magnet defeat these things?
2 posted on 06/09/2003 3:37:44 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: Radix; *tech_index; Sparta; freedom9; martin_fierro; PatriotGames; Mathlete; fjsva; grundle; ...
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3 posted on 06/09/2003 3:41:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Time to deClintonize the State Department!)
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To: Radix
So THAT'S where SARS and monkeypox are coming from!

I'm gonna go look for a good, 1950's, B sci-fi movie to watch.

4 posted on 06/09/2003 3:50:33 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Radix
>>...The transmisssion range of RFID tags today is limited to only a few feet, so manufacturers couldn't track people even if they wanted to (and they say they don't). ...<<

How about using cellphones as a relay? Chip xmits to the phone, phone xmits to Big Brother.

Or a device in a car such as OnStar that transmits the information.

Easy enough to build in enough receivers in a mall, airport, sports stadium, etc.

After that, a receiver in each lamp post or telephone pole, etc.

Not inconceivable.

As for manufacturers not interested in tracking people, as stated in the article, I'm sure the government will be. Of course it will be to "protect us".

I could see parents being urged to get their children implanted in order to track them if they are kidnapped. Even making it mandatory like vaccines are now.

5 posted on 06/09/2003 4:04:49 PM PDT by FReepaholic (I'm not paranoid. Why does everybody think I'm paranoid?)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Would carrying a magnet defeat these things?

No. A static E-M field wouldn't affect them at all. There are two ways to "defeat" such a thing:

1. Wrap it in foil (create a Faraday shield around it). Prevents (well, greatly reduces) energy-bearing signal going in, and any responsive signal out.

2. Overwhelm its protective circuits (on its antenna input) with a device that generates a very strong electromagnetic pulse. (If you can physically locate the RFID tag, the area that requires the strong pulse can be much smaller, thus reducing the size and energy required for your device -- making your neighbours and the FCC much happier.)

6 posted on 06/09/2003 5:19:44 PM PDT by Eala ("Here in France I feel at home." --Madonna. So go already.)
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To: Radix
"and milk cartons that inform your fridge when to add another gallon to the grocery list."

PUH-LEEZE.........

OK, who here has to have an "alert" to tell you that you need milk????

7 posted on 06/09/2003 5:29:43 PM PDT by Sam's Army
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As for manufacturers not interested in tracking people, as stated in the article, I'm sure the government will be. Of course it will be to "protect us".

Think about it. If they knew where everyone was all the time, how many crimes could not be committed with an expectation of getting "away with it." Murders -- who was near at the time? Robberies -- who but the victim was there at the time? Delayed-action bomb -- who passed by during X period? And so on, and so on. And all you have to do is give up a little privacy...

But don't worry, they won't start with you. They'll pick on someone that nobody could protest. Convicted felons, or middle-eastern immigrants. Apply it retroactively to the former. (BTW, where is there a "right to privacy" in the Constitution? I don't see it... and it seems only to apply to abortion anyway.) That will set the precedent that could end with you -- maybe on your next traffic violation.

(I'm not saying this will happen, just that it could.)

8 posted on 06/09/2003 5:32:47 PM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: tscislaw
How about using cellphones as a relay?

The protocol is already in place - it's called 'BlueTooth' ...

9 posted on 06/09/2003 5:37:09 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Eala
Wrap it in foil (create a Faraday shield around it).

MOST of us who work in industry would simply refer to this as 'shielding' and skip the attempt to show how smart we are ...

10 posted on 06/09/2003 5:40:46 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim
>>>MOST of us who work in industry would simply refer to this as 'shielding' and skip the attempt to show how smart we are ...<<<

Ahh yes. But your primitive shielding will not be effective against Faraday rays.

11 posted on 06/09/2003 5:45:46 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: HardStarboard
... will not be effective against Faraday rays.

To which Google responds:

    Your search - " Faraday rays" - did not match any documents.

"Go fish"

12 posted on 06/09/2003 5:51:33 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Just goes to show you what google knows.
13 posted on 06/09/2003 6:42:00 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: Eala
How about a radar gun or microwave energy ?
14 posted on 06/10/2003 6:54:09 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: Eala
Okay, what about those old LP static pens??? You know, the ones where you press the button and it produces an electrical charge to get rid of the static.
15 posted on 06/10/2003 6:55:11 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: Eala
How about a radar gun or microwave energy ? If that don't work how about a Tesla coil?
16 posted on 06/10/2003 6:55:17 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: IYAS9YAS
Would carrying a magnet defeat these things?

Probably not but no-tech, un-sophisticated boycotting would.

17 posted on 06/10/2003 7:07:17 AM PDT by lewislynn
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To: Nebr FAL owner
I don't know if a radar gun or (I presume you meant) placing it in a microwave oven would be sufficient.
18 posted on 06/10/2003 7:25:18 AM PDT by Eala ("Here in France I feel at home." --Madonna. So go already.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Okay, what about those old LP static pens???

I'm not acquainted with these, sorry.

19 posted on 06/10/2003 7:26:45 AM PDT by Eala ("Here in France I feel at home." --Madonna. So go already.)
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To: Eala
..There are two ways to "defeat" such a thing:..

I can think of a third, it's called a hammer.

20 posted on 06/10/2003 7:32:31 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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