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John Ross’ Speech

Posted on 06/16/2003 7:57:33 AM PDT by ezo4

John Ross’ Speech

Throughout the country, people are talking about the horrendous gun bans in Canada, Great Britain, and Australia.  “It’s inevitable, America is next, we’re doomed,” is the message.  It’s easy to be a doomsayer.  If you’re wrong, no one minds.  One of the riskiest things you can do is to say that things are good.

I don’t want to trivialize the serious implications of these human rights violations in other countries and our own, but it’s time to say out loud something that’s been absent from the discussion.

IN MANY WAYS, THINGS ARE BETTER FOR US [GUN OWNERS] NOW THAN THEY EVER HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

To prove this, let’s go back in time seventy, forty, and twenty years to 1932, 1962, and 1982, and look at these years as SERIOUS shooters.  Let’s compare how things were then to where they are now with gun laws, gun availability, and gun prices.  (The situation with shotguns and rimfires has not changed dramatically, so we’ll leave them out.)

The Year 1932

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE RIFLES: There were a handful of low-powered rifles, and the state-of-the-art was the Winchester 1907 in .351 self-loading, (ballistically similar to the current .357 Magnum) with the special “police” 15-rd. magazine.  Even in 1932 many dealers sold these only to bona fide officers.

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE PISTOLS: Apart from under powered .25’s, 32s, and .380s, we have only the Colt Gov’t models, captured Lugers and Mausers, and a few other Central European weapons. That’s it. And 7.62mm and 9mm pistol ammo for the captured guns was uncommon and expensive.

POWERFUL REVOLVERS: The .45 Colt is the most powerful factory handgun cartridge of 1932, in two guns.  There were no magnums.

MAGNUM FACTORY RIFLES: None.

HIGHLY ACCURATE, LONG-RANGE FACTORY RIFLES: None, with the arguable exception of the very limited-production Newton rifle.

IMPORTS:  Aside from WW1 98 Mausers, imports were minimal, and virtually nothing was both interesting and affordable.

RELOADING: Simple hand tools only. Molds to cast bullets.

GUN MAGAZINES: American Rifleman (formerly Arms & the Man), and columns in outdoor magazines, all of which focused almost exclusively on hunting and target shooting. Articles on the proper defensive uses of weapons were the rare exception, not the rule.

CONCEALED CARRY: Illegal in many states and had been for over 50 years because of the Emancipation Proclamation.  Heavily restricted in others (I.e. New York) because of large-scale immigration.  Not generally enforced on well to do whites, but this was still a crapshoot if you ran across a cop who didn’t like you.

GENERAL 1932 CLIMATE: No federal antigun laws at all. The NFA was two years away. From a federal standpoint, you could buy anything, cash and carry, including machine guns, so let’s look at what you could get: BARs and variants (Colt Monitor) and the Thompson. In quality shoulder-fired guns, this was it, and they were EXPENSIVE. There were a few WW1 bring-backs including belt-feds but ammo was expensive, and for most people these guns were decorations for the den. You could buy water-cooled Colt commercial .30 and .50 caliber belt-fed machineguns (normally sold to coal companies for labor relations) but these were high-dollar both to buy and to shoot. In 1932, firearm noise reducers (silencers) were sold in hardware stores for two or three dollars.

Fast-forward 30 years to 1962:

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE RIFLES: All the 1932 choices are gone including the Winchester 1907, which has been discontinued five years before. The Remington 740 has recently been introduced. There are some Garands and M1 Carbines that were brought back from the war in duffel bags, but none have been released to the public and there are no clones.

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE PISTOLS:  Again, Colt Gov’t. models, Lugers and Mausers, and now we have the P35 Hi-Power and captured P38s and PPKs.  Surplus ammo is now somewhat more available and affordable.

POWERFUL REVOLVERS: In .45 Colt, the New Service is gone, and the SAA has just been reintroduced after a long hiatus. The .357 Magnum is available in a handful of models. The .44 Magnum has been out for a few years, but no one can find one to buy.

MAGNUM FACTORY RIFLES: Winchester 70 in .300 H&H and .375 H&H, Rem. 721 in .300 H&H. Weatherby rifles, which are twice as expensive as a M70. All these guns were costly enough in real dollars that many gunsmiths worked full-time modifying military rifles to magnum calibers.

HIGHLY ACCURATE LONG RANGE FACTORY RIFLES: Winchester M70 Target and M70 Varmint, which with factory ammo are mediocre by 2002 standards. Benchrest shooting, where much development occurs, is scarcely a decade old.

IMPORTS: Lots of cheap bolt actions, Lugers, and other military guns.  Antitank guns are available cheaply but the ammo is expensive. Class 3 dealers can import live surplus MGs and sell them to individuals, but with $200 tax and no dirt-cheap ammo (in most calibers), this doesn’t happen often.

RELOADING: Simple hand tools, some single-stage presses, and the very expensive Star Progressive with a long wait. Bullets, powders, dies and other components are much more available now than before the war.

GUN MAGAZINES: Five, now.  Guns, Guns & Ammo, Gun World, and Shooting Times have just gone into print, joining the Rifleman. These publications still focus almost entirely on hunting and target shooting. Charlie Askins at Gun World sometimes writes about self-defense.

CONCEALED CARRY: Essentially the same as 1932.

GENERAL 1962 CLIMATE: The NFA has been in effect for 28 years. A wide variety of full auto WW2 bring-backs are available, but you need to pay $200 if you want to shoot them, and ammo is more expensive on a constant-dollar basis than it will be in 2002. For most people, these guns were decorators. There is a growing patchwork of state antigun laws to snare travelers.  Enforcement varies.

Fast-forward 20 years to 1982

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE RIFLES: Nothing like 1962.  We have surplus Garands in quantity, the M1 Carbine and clones, the M1A, AR-15, FAL, AR-180, H&K, Mini-14, Win. 100, Sporting BAR, and the Ruger .44 Magnum carbine.

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE PISTOLS: To the 1962 choices, add in the S & W M39, M59 (hard to get) and a few lower-quality European guns, including clones of the 1911. Combat shooting competitions (bowling pin, IPSC, etc.) are in their infancy.

POWERFUL REVOLVERS: The .44 and .41 Magnums are available, but they are scarce, and S&Ws sell for $350, Rugers for half that.  No other quality guns in these calibers are available. Silhouette shooting has been in the U.S. for less than three years. A few stainless revolvers are available, as well as one bolt action pistol and the interchangeable-barrel Contender.

MAGNUM FACTORY RIFLES: Big change here—a wide variety of factory bolt actions in short magnums, plus the sporting BAR. Weatherbys are still expensive.

HIGHLY ACCURATE LONG RANGE FACTORY RIFLES: Winchester, Remington, Ruger, and H&R all make varmint rifles, and we’ve got one true ½ MOA factory gun, the Remington 40XB in a large number of calibers. Benchrest competition is very popular and rifles are getting more and more accurate.

IMPORTS: Because of GCA ’68, no military surplus guns are being imported, period, except pre-1898. A few military lookalike semi autos like the FAL and CETME (H&K 91 clone) which are very expensive, and these is no cheap .308 ammo to shoot in them.

RELOADING: There are several good high-volume tools other than the Star Progressive, such as the Dillon.  There’s a wider selection of everything else, and match bullets are MUCH better than 20 years before because of the rise of benchrest competition.  Jacketed hollow point handgun bullets are now readily available, because of the increased awareness of self-defense considerations.

GUN MAGAZINES: To the five we had add Rifle, Handloader, and Precision Shooting.  Many more articles address combat shooting and defensive use of weapons. Soldiers of Fortune magazine has been out for five years. Their articles focus on guns and tactics for defensive use, and make almost no mention of recreational shooting.

CONCEALED CARRY: From a standpoint of existing statutes, the law is essentially the same as in 1932.  However, the state prohibitions are now being enforced heavily on whites as well as blacks and Hispanics.

GENERAL 1982 CLIMATE: The U.S. military with its nearly limitless supply of state-of-the-art aircraft, bombs, and other weaponry, has just suffered a humiliating defeat on the other side of the world; at the hands of a scraggly bunch of individual soldiers armed primarily with captured weapons and fighting on their home turf.  1982 is six years after our Bicentennial, and Vietnam is a replay of what went 200 years before, when Americans were the individually armed citizens facing a world-class army.

GCA ’68 has been in effect fourteen years, with 4473 forms on all guns and record keeping for all ammo purchases. You cannot buy anything through the mail, not even components. Big-caliber military weapons have been reclassified as Destructive Devices and placed into the NFA section of the law. Importation of full autos for non-government sale is prohibited. Registration of non-registered full autos is also prohibited.

Serious antigun groups are springing up, such as the National Coalition to Ban Handguns. The NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action (ILA) has been up and running for seven years, formed seven years after the Gun Control Act (1968) and forty-one years after the National Firearms Act (1934).

2002—Present Day:

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE RIFLES: The selection is now almost limitless. To the 1982 choices, add a bunch of semi M14 clones, semi HK clones, FAL clones, AR-15 clones, semi AR-10 clones, literally millions of AK, SKS, HK, and other imports brought in at very low cost pre-ban, plus smaller numbers of others. You can even get a semiauto 1918 BAR. There are four .50 BMG semi autos available, one of them a belt-fed, and semiauto clones of two belt-fed .30s.

SEMIAUTO CENTERFIRE PISTOLS: The variety is now unbelievable. Double-column guns are the rule now, not the exception, available from dozens of makers. Full power 9mm and .40 mini-guns like the Glock 26 and 27 did not exist several years before, now they are common. Calibers that did not exist in 1982 are also common: the .40 S&W, 10mm, .45 Win. Mag, and .50 AE. Really big magnums by Wildey, Grizzly, AMT, and Desert Eagle are readily available.

POWERFUL REVOLVERS: There are scores of choices here, too.  The .357 is now available in J-frames, as well as dozens of larger-framed revolvers.  Lots of .44 Magnums are on the market, all cheaper in constant dollars than 20 years before, with no availability problems and in a much wider variety of styles. The .454 Casull is readily available, built like a Swiss watch, at a price little higher in constant dollars than the M29 in 1982. Custom .475 and .50 cal. Conversions of Rugers is available, which did not exist at any price 20 years before. Dan Wesson’s in the Supermag calibers are available. Very little junk is out there because the silhouette game has forced new makers to build accurate guns or go out of business. Single shots pistols are now common, chambering up to magnum rifle rounds.

MAGNUM FACTORY RIFLES: More available than ever before, in new calibers, different styles, stocks, finishes, and barrel weights, and in stainless steel.  True magnum actions that you couldn’t get twenty years ago are available. Custom shops are doing top-drawer work building rifles to .600 Nitro and beyond. More than five companies make and sell complete bolt action guns in .50 BMG.

HIGHLY ACCURATE LONG RANGE FACTORY RIFLES: Everybody’s making them. Lots of half-minute sniper rifles are for sale, and many semi-custom shops are advertising and turning out ¼ MOA rifles in any caliber you want (Robar, Brown Precision, Shilen, Jarrett, Hammonds, Spencer, Williams, etc.)  We’ve even got true ½ MOA semi autos from Eagle, Olympic, Knight, ArmaLite, and others, as well as all the pieces for shooters to build their own. Two companies even make match rifles in .50 Browning. Finally, barrel life has tripled and bore fouling almost eliminated with the advent of cryogenic tempering, electrochemical polishing, and moly-coated bullets.

IMPORTS: Because of legislation sponsored by Senator Dole, military surplus Title 1 guns have been pouring back in: Garands, Carbines, Krags, Hakims, FN49s, Lugers, 1917s, Mausers, Moisin-Nagants, SVT40s, Tokarevs, etc. New manufacture politically corrected semis are everywhere. There are interesting, high-quality handguns and rifles in many different types, almost all cheaper in constant dollars than ever before.  Surplus ammo from around the globe has never before been available in such tremendous quantity and variety, and at such low cost.

RELOADING: We now have a huge selection of real progressives, even for rifle calibers, from six different manufacturers. Presses that will load .50 BMG are common. Components have gone crazy—several new “high energy” powders, and even .50 primers are readily available. There are dozens of match bullets including low drags in seven calibers, moly-coated if you want them that way. You can buy .50 Browning match bullets, including centerless-ground solids that have shot 4” groups at 1000 yards. Polycarbonate-tipped bullets that shoot ¼ MOA and blow up like bombs are available, priced lower in constant dollars than the bullets of 20 years before that were only half as good.

GUN MAGAZINES: All the ones from 1982 plus American Handgunner, Combat Handguns, SWAT, Women & Guns, Tactical Shooter, and Small Arms Review. Articles about combat shooting, concealed carry, and defensive equipment, is now the rule rather than the exception. Articles on machine guns appear regularly.

CONCEALED CARRY: In 20 years there has been a sea change in awareness that anti-carry laws are a relic of the Jim Crow era. Over thirty states now have “shall issue” carry laws. All but six of the remaining ones have some form of carry provisions. NO state has attempted to repeal its carry provisions--the news is ALL positive.  John Ross and then the University of Chicago publish definitive studies that show concealed carry greatly benefits society. The gun manufacturers respond with the best concealment guns we have ever seen: The Seecamp, the mini Glocks in 9mm and .40, the Sigma, the Grendel, and the S&W Mountain Gun are just a few of these. The S&W Custom Shop alone accounts for a half dozen different models designed specifically for personal defense outside the home.

GENERAL CONDITIONS: The Soviet Union has imploded, in part because of its disastrously unsuccessful attempt to invade and rule Afghanistan.  The Mujahadeen were armed with weapons that were often homemade, and of poorer quality than our worst surplus imports. With these awkward weapons, the Afghan freedom fighters defeated the Russian Army.  This is a replay of America in 1776 and Vietnam in 1975.

In America, passage of the Volkmer-McClure Act in 1986 has thrown out all ammo record keeping requirements. You can buy ammo and components through the mail just like pre-’68. Volkmer-McClure also protects travelers from the patchwork of conflicting state laws while in transit.

There are no new machine guns for sale to the public because of Volkmer-McClure Hughes Amendment, but the foreknowledge of this last-minute voice-vote betrayal allowed 100,000 more MGs to be registered in May 1986, doubling the supply that had taken 50 years to amass. The whole shooting community is now aware of machine guns and machine gun design, and it sees the terrible blow that Congress dealt our national defense with the 1934 and 1986 acts.  These laws devastated future development of new full-auto designs in this country. Machine gun competitions and shoots spring up around the country, and Women & Guns magazine receives an article submission entitled “The Submachine Gun for Home Defense.”  Several courts rule the NFA null and void, as the NFA was a revenue-raising measure, and under the 1986 ban no revenue can be raised.

The Federal Collector’s license lets holders buy any Title 1 guns at least 50 years old through the mail.  The Brady law is in effect, but likely to be thrown out as unconstitutional. The federal “gun-free schools” law has been declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.  The 1986 MG ban is legally identical and may be next.  Lloyd Bentsen has decreed that three shotguns (USAS-12, Striker, and Streetsweeper) are destructive devices and must be registered as such; the public responds with less than 1% compliance despite draconian penalties.

The ATF and FBI are now under the bright light of public scrutiny because of their disastrous efforts at Ruby Ridge and Waco. So pervasive is the disgust at the Waco debacle being staged to justify budget increases that there is widespread skepticism about the cause of the OKC bombing, and this theme is actually now used by Hollywood. Movies once showed government agencies only in the most favorable light; now, a recent top-grossing film, The Long Kiss Goodnight, has a government agency plotting a terrorist bombing to get greater funding in the next year’s budget.

The historical novel Unintended Consequences further educates the public and the legislature about government infringements on citizens’ rights and the danger of continuing on this course. As this book goes into multiple printings, reviewers compare it to Uncle Tom’s cabin and Atlas Shrugged, and call it “this generations novel of liberty.”

THE FUTURE

What can we expect twenty years from now in 2022? If current trends continue, we can expect several things. We will have nationwide concealed carry, and  indoor ranges will proliferate to satisfy the demand of urban-dwelling citizens (particularly women) who need to maintain their defensive skills.  New concealment holsters and concealment purses will appear. As more and more criminals commit their crimes while under the influence of new designer drugs, we will see more and more effective handgun ammunition developed for defense. Handguns will be smaller, lighter, more reliable and more powerful. They will be even more corrosion resistant, and they will have less recoil as more and more manufacturers incorporate integral muzzle brakes into new designs.

Match rifles will shoot groups of two inches at a thousand yards because of continued improvement in barrel making, lapping, and stress-relieving. More and more factories will follow Norma’s lead and load their ammo with moly-coated bullets, and long range rifles will hold their accuracy for hundreds of shots without cleaning.  We already have laser rangefinders costing less than $300; in the next 20 years we can expect these electronics to be incorporated into rifle optics. The military right now has riflescopes with laser ranging and automatic drop compensation; I expect this technology to hit the consumer market in the next decade for less than $1000.

Increased emphasis on health issues may bring about the reversal of one of the greatest public health blunders of this century: classifying firearm noise mufflers as restricted items. With recent Supreme Court rulings, the 1986 machine gun ban’s days may well be numbered. As more and more Constitutional scholars examine current firearms law, it is entirely possible that the entire National Firearms Act of 1934 will be repealed.  With current computer technology registration of all violent felons can be easily accomplished, and anyone not on the list could then buy any gun anywhere in the country with no wait and no paperwork.

We are poised for these changes in the next 20 years because of what we have endured. We are stronger today than we have ever been before. We are stronger, and we are smarter. NO ONE believes that if we agree to a few restrictions, the enemy will go away.  NO ONE has any intention of seriously complying with ANY confiscation programs. When mainstream, recreational magazines such as  Guns & Ammo run articles on properly burying your guns in PVC pipe for future contingencies, the tide has shifted. By now millions of Americans have bought guns and ammunition in quantity and put them into appropriate long-term storage.

For all of our complaints about paperwork, the bald truth is that after a rifle, pistol, or shotgun leaves the possession of the first private buyer, it vanishes from the system. If the FBI dropped everything it was doing and spent 100% of its resources trying to locate just the four million SKS carbines in this country, each agent would have to trace to its present location nearly one thousand rifles. How many do you think they would find? Half?  And that is just SKS carbines, who’s going to track down everything else and confiscate it? Foreign troops wearing blue berets and speaking broken English?  Good luck, the coroners will be working three shifts.

The people in Canada, England, and Australia do not have a Constitution with a Bill of Rights. We do.  The People in Canada, England, and Australia now have confiscation because they first accepted full gun registration. We have refused, to the point of less than 1% compliance when registration has been forces on us by decree on individual types of guns. The people in England recently accepted the banning of handguns because by now, almost everyone in England’s gun culture has moved out of that country. There were only 50,000 handgun permit holders left in England, and most of the handguns there were .22 target pistols. We have over 100 MILLION centerfire handguns in our country, all suitable for defense. The people in Canada, England, and Australia have socialized medicine. We practically boiled in oil the politicians who tried to inflict socialized medicine on America.

People who like socialism have gravitated to Canada, England, and Australia. People who like freedom have gravitated to America. Are our rights under assault here in America? Absolutely! But history has shown us that from 1789 onwards, there have always been those who would deny some Americans their freedoms. History has shown us that in America, when the culture of freedom has clashed with the culture of State control, securing and restoring our rights is a constant process that is almost always gradual and peaceful. I believe that is what we will see with our Second Amendment rights. History has shown us that on rare occasions, the process of restoring our freedoms has been swift and bloody. There is one constant, however...

HISTORY HAS SHOWN US THAT IN AMERICA, THE CULTURE OF FREEDOM ALWAYS WINS.



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To: ezoeni
I'll bet you sat right up when you read John Ross in you in-box!
41 posted on 06/16/2003 6:14:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: snopercod
Things are looking up. The more they tighten their grip, the more we slip through their fingers.

For you: a bit of philosophia from a Japanese air rifle manual, as frequently quoted by a pal of mine:

It does the operator well to remember that the screw that tightens the mechanism is also that which loosens it....

-archy-/-

42 posted on 06/16/2003 6:38:25 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Joe Brower
In disarmed Britain, homeowners defending against home invasion are prosecuted.

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

That's the nation we rose up against and defeated in battle.

We established the Second Amendment to insure our ability to rinse, repeat if necessary.

Memo to confiscators: expect ammo first.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

43 posted on 06/16/2003 10:45:43 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: EBUCK; First_Salute; joanie-f
Wow! Thanks for the tip on Silviera v Lockyer. In searching for some information on that case, I found this dissent by my hero Alex Kozinski, my first choice for the next Supreme Court Justice.

KOZINSKI, Circuit Judge, dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc:

Judges know very well how to read the Constitution broadly when they are sympathetic to the right being asserted. We have held, without much ado, that “speech, or . . . the press” also means the Internet, see Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 844 (1997), and that “persons, houses, papers, and effects” also means public telephone booths, see Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967). When a particular right comports especially well with our notions of good social policy, we build magnificent legal edifices on elliptical constitutional phrases —or even the white spaces between lines of constitutional text. See, e.g., Compassion in Dying v. Washington, 79 F.3d 790 (9th Cir. 1996) (en banc), rev’d sub nom. Washington v. Glucksberg, 521 U.S. 702 (1997).

But, as the panel amply demonstrates, when we’re none too keen on a particular constitutional guarantee, we can be equally ingenious in burying language that is incontrovertibly there. It is wrong to use some constitutional provisions as springboards for major social change while treating others like senile relatives to be cooped up in a nursing home until they quit annoying us. As guardians of the Constitution, we must be consistent in interpreting its provisions. If we adopt a jurisprudence sympathetic to individual rights, we must give broad compass to all constitutional provisions that protect individuals from tyranny. If we take a more statist approach, we must give all such provisions narrow scope. Expanding some to gargantuan proportions while discarding others like a crumpled gum wrapper is not faithfully applying the Constitution; it’s using our power as federal judges to constitutionalize our personal preferences.

The able judges of the panel majority are usually very sympathetic to individual rights, but they have succumbed to the temptation to pick and choose. Had they brought the same generous approach to the Second Amendment that they routinely bring to the First, Fourth and selected portions of the Fifth, they would have had no trouble finding an individual right to bear arms. Indeed, to conclude otherwise, they had to ignore binding precedent. United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), did not hold that the defendants lacked standing to raise a Second Amendment defense, even though the government argued the collective rights theory in its brief. See Kleinfeld Dissent at 6011-12; see also Brannon P. Denning & Glenn H. Reynolds, Telling Miller’s Tale: A Reply to David Yassky, 65 Law & Contemp. Probs. 113, 117-18 (2002). The Supreme Court reached the Second Amendment claim and rejected it on the merits after finding no evidence that Miller’s 5981 SILVEIRA v. LOCKYER weapon—a sawed-off shotgun—was reasonably susceptible to militia use. See Miller, 307 U.S. at 178.

We are bound not only by the outcome of Miller but also by its rationale. If Miller’s claim was dead on arrival because it was raised by a person rather than a state, why would the Court have bothered discussing whether a sawed-off shotgun was suitable for militia use? The panel majority not only ignores Miller’s test; it renders most of the opinion wholly superfluous. As an inferior court, we may not tell the Supreme Court it was out to lunch when it last visited a constitutional provision. The majority falls prey to the delusion—popular in some circles—that ordinary people are too careless and stupid to own guns, and we would be far better off leaving all weapons in the hands of professionals on the government payroll. But the simple truth—born of experience—is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people.

Our own sorry history bears this out: Disarmament was the tool of choice for subjugating both slaves and free blacks in the South. In Florida, patrols searched blacks’ homes for weapons, confiscated those found and punished their owners without judicial process. See Robert J. Cottrol & Raymond T. Diamond, The Second Amendment: Toward an Afro-Americanist Reconsideration, 80 Geo. L.J. 309, 338 (1991). In the North, by contrast, blacks exercised their right to bear arms to defend against racial mob violence. Id. at 341- 42. As Chief Justice Taney well appreciated, the institution of slavery required a class of people who lacked the means to resist. See Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393, 417 (1857) (finding black citizenship unthinkable because it would give blacks the right to “keep and carry arms wherever they went”). A revolt by Nat Turner and a few dozen other armed blacks could be put down without much difficulty; one by four million armed blacks would have meant big trouble.

All too many of the other great tragedies of history— Stalin’s atrocities, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Holocaust, to name but a few—were perpetrated by armed troops 5982 SILVEIRA v. LOCKYER against unarmed populations. Many could well have been avoided or mitigated, had the perpetrators known their intended victims were equipped with a rifle and twenty bullets apiece, as the Militia Act required here. See Kleinfeld Dissent at 5997-99. If a few hundred Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto could hold off the Wehrmacht for almost a month with only a handful of weapons, six million Jews armed with rifles could not so easily have been herded into cattle cars.

My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

Fortunately, the Framers were wise enough to entrench the right of the people to keep and bear arms within our constitutional structure. The purpose and importance of that right was still fresh in their minds, and they spelled it out clearly so it would not be forgotten. Despite the panel’s mighty struggle to erase these words, they remain, and the people themselves can read what they say plainly enough: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The sheer ponderousness of the panel’s opinion—the mountain of verbiage it must deploy to explain away these fourteen short words of constitutional text—refutes its thesis far more convincingly than anything I might say. The panel’s labored 5983 SILVEIRA v. LOCKYER effort to smother the Second Amendment by sheer body weight has all the grace of a sumo wrestler trying to kill a rattlesnake by sitting on it—and is just as likely to succeed.

44 posted on 06/17/2003 3:17:52 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Travis McGee
I know I did. I asked him when his next book was coming out. He said, "2nd half of '04."

I sure wish I could meet this guy.
45 posted on 06/17/2003 3:29:27 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: snopercod
The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

Kozinski for Supreme Court Justice!

How different things would be if other judges were as familiar with history and the origins of our political system as this brilliant jurist.

46 posted on 06/17/2003 7:00:04 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: snopercod
You want more of those dissenting opinions??? Goto keepandbeararms.com...they've got the whole case archived!
47 posted on 06/17/2003 8:25:37 AM PDT by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: RandallFlagg
I can relate.

Three years ago if you had asked me when my novel would be available, I would have said "2002."

At every stage and level, it has taken MUCH longer than I had predicted.

48 posted on 06/17/2003 8:32:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: RandallFlagg
I know I did. I asked him when his next book was coming out. He said, "2nd half of '04."

I sure wish I could meet this guy.

He's usually as the Knob Creek machinegun Shoot in Kentucky, not too surprisingly, and is often found around *three toes* Kent Lomont's table display, signing copies of Unintended Consequences. The next MG shoot there is in October, on the 10/11/12th. There's a middlin' fair chance he'll have prerelease copies of his next book there then, or more likely, at the Sopring shoot there next year. And he's most gracious about signing and conversations. [Ask him how his Corvette project is going; he'll chat your ear off....]

-archy-/-

49 posted on 06/17/2003 8:51:25 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: ezoeni
Awesome, thanks!
50 posted on 06/17/2003 12:47:33 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: Ancesthntr; EBUCK; Jim Robinson
Kozinski was also the one who drove a wooden stake through the heart of junk science in the courtroom in his Daubert v. Merrill Dow opinion.

It would be a worthy goal for FreeRepublic to push for his nomination to the Supreme Court.

51 posted on 06/17/2003 12:57:58 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: Iconoclast2; DoughtyOne; Abcdefg; babygene; albee; Lion's Cub; Rifleman; Ada Coddington; mow; ...
Another reason America needs Kozinski on SCOTUS:

Another Reason Judge Kozinski Is My First Pick for Supreme Court: Oral Argument in Ruby Ridge Case

52 posted on 06/17/2003 1:05:52 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: archy
Thanks. Also, I am one of the few people who understands your tag line. (I think...)
53 posted on 06/17/2003 1:09:39 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: snopercod
It's a cookbook.

-archy-/-

54 posted on 06/17/2003 1:52:45 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: snopercod
He's way too principled to make the cut. Personally, I'm amazed he's allowed to remain on the 9th. Neither the pubs nor the Rats want someone up there they can't readily push over.
55 posted on 06/17/2003 2:14:15 PM PDT by EBUCK (FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
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To: archy; Jim Robinson
It's a cookbook. ...which one must follow scrupulously to avoid poisoning oneself and one's Country. As I vaguely recall, that used to be the theme of this Forum: Individual rights and a limited government created by the governed to protect those rights.

Allow me to unload for a moment.

Here we have a judge - on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals for God's sake - who actually rules according to the U.S. Constitution - meaning: limited federal powers which may legitimately be used only to protect individual rights. He has a long history of doing so.

So is the national republican party supporting him? Of course not. I forgot, they are too busy pushing hispanic and female judges (who may be completely qualified, but that is not the point) in an attempt to garner demographic blocks which exit polls tell us usually vote for the opposition party. The eastern establishment republicans (that forced the Dole familiy on the nation) are afraid to admit (let alone proclaim) that the concept of Individual Rights and Capitalism is the most moral political-economic system ever devised for the organization of human activity in a social environment. By their silence and without any discussion, they hang their heads and admit that we conservatives are really mean-spirited, insensitive people but hey, we are ashamed of ourselves and really want to change. They believe that if we become racial-quota-pimps like Jesse Jackson, then we can be seen as "good people" after all and it will be OK to vote for somebody with an (R) after their name.

It's pandering, and it's appeasement. And Oh, by the way, it won't work. It never has worked, and never will work. The pubbies (as usual) assume that the opposition is as adrift philosophically as the republican party, but of course that is incorrect. The 'RATS know what they want, and it is you and me.

Until the republican party stands up for the philosophy of capitalism and all it subsumes (liberty, freedom, limited government, and judges like Alex Kozinski who understands why those concepts are moral and will uphold them), then they are nothing more than insignificant little opportunists, and much worse than the democRATS.

As always Jim, thank you for this forum where I can speak (type?) my mind.

56 posted on 06/17/2003 2:47:06 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: EBUCK
Neither the pubs nor the Rats want someone up there they can't readily push over.

Sadly, it seems that way to me as well.

57 posted on 06/17/2003 4:49:30 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: Travis McGee
"Your Novel"?? What's it called and when will it be out?

Yes. I'm a bookworm.
58 posted on 06/17/2003 5:26:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: archy
Dang! I hope he gets bored and comes to Colorado someday.
59 posted on 06/17/2003 5:31:07 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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I wonder if Ross is a FReeper.
60 posted on 06/17/2003 6:00:43 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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