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Hillary Falls to #4 On Amazon.Com
Amazon.com | June 17, 2003 | Amazon.com

Posted on 06/17/2003 11:36:07 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX

Hillary's book drops to #4 on Amazon.com Sid Blumenthal's book "The Clinton Years" drops to #67


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So, what's all this hype about record breaking sales. For goodness sakes, the "The Witch, Hillary & The Slime, Sid" never made it to #1. Someone is spinning someone! What's the story Simon & Shuster?
1 posted on 06/17/2003 11:36:07 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
She's gotta be used to "Early Withdrawl"
2 posted on 06/17/2003 11:37:00 AM PDT by bedolido (Where'd I put that Tin-Foil Hat?)
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To: bedolido
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How long was Savage at #1?
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3 posted on 06/17/2003 11:39:24 AM PDT by CygnusXI (n00b)
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To: bedolido
Time to call up those supporters of the CLinton and threaten, I mean encourage them to go stock up on this timeless piece of work...yeah right...Don't you just wish we could have a 24 hour wish list like that kid had in "Liar, Liar" and put Bill and Hillary on the truth watch! What a fun time THAT would be if they were forced to tell the truth...
4 posted on 06/17/2003 11:40:26 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Don't you get the feeling something is funny about the sales numbers.

I have a vague recollection of someone making a charge that some wealthy friends bought up tons and tons of an author's book, just to later unload them at a loss...as a ligit way to "reward" the author.

Who was it and what was the book?
6 posted on 06/17/2003 11:44:47 AM PDT by kimoajax
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Hillary! doesn't care if she ever sells another book. The only reason she wrote this one was to 'inoculate' herself, i.e. she can dismiss any future uncomfortable questions by stating that 'she already addressed that issue in her book'. The big loser is S&S, who thought that Hillary would write an honest memoir that would sell huge.
7 posted on 06/17/2003 11:47:15 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: kimoajax
I'm afraid it was Newt Gingrich's book from right after the '94 elections.
8 posted on 06/17/2003 11:47:25 AM PDT by Calvin Coolidge
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Amazon doesn't list fiction and nonfiction separately. harry Potter has been number one since February. NY Times hasn't listed for this week, but I suspect the wicked witch will spend at least a week as number one. The new York Times made a special rule a couple of years ago specifically to exclude harry Potter from their list.
9 posted on 06/17/2003 11:47:46 AM PDT by js1138
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Good Lord

"The Prince"
by Niccolo Machiavelli

is at #14. Now that's cutthroat politics.

So9

10 posted on 06/17/2003 11:48:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: randog
Plus, she got her money, so what does she care about sales?
11 posted on 06/17/2003 11:49:24 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: kimoajax
I've written two books, one self-published and one from a major NYC publisher, so I know how the business works; and I've been saying since day one that nobody should believe the PR releases from the publisher about the giant sales of this book. I have no doubt it shipped big to the stores, but I think it will be shipping nearly as big back to the publishers. I predict it will be like the soundtrack to the movie of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," which got a double platinum album award for shipping so many copies to stores, then 99 percent of them were returned, and it infested remainder bins for years afterward. The debacle led to them changing the rules for what wins a platinum or gold record. I also said from day one that more than half the copies of this book that will ever sell will have been sold within a week of its release, and I stand by that.
12 posted on 06/17/2003 11:51:36 AM PDT by HHFi
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
How is it that the new Harry Potter book, in different forms, make up four of the top ten positions on Amazon? (Guess Hillary's book got people in the mood for more stories about witches.)
13 posted on 06/17/2003 11:51:47 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I went to Costco yesterday and there were stacks of Hillary's and Sid's books. Sid's stack looked untouched, while Hillary's stack was maybe one book thickness below Sid's.

I wasted 10 minutes watching to see if anybody took one -- just a few browsers who opened Hill's book to the inside cover, then quickly put it down. Hill's book was discounted to $17 already.

14 posted on 06/17/2003 11:51:58 AM PDT by RandyRep
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
AHA

Hillary is #1 on the Amazon "Hardback Biographies & Memoirs" list. They have so many lists every book with any hype is at the top of one or another.

So9

15 posted on 06/17/2003 11:52:27 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Oh this is tragic!

S & S will never sell a million + 300,000 at this rate!

[handwringing]

16 posted on 06/17/2003 11:54:05 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Calvin Coolidge; kimoajax
There was nothing unethical about Newt's book.

The case kimoajax is thinking of is dem (natch) Jim Wright.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a4199f42de6.htm
17 posted on 06/17/2003 11:55:14 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: RandyRep
I was at Costco on Saturday - not a single soul picked up the Hillary opus. Hah! And the price was $15.49. The publisher has a lot of books to sell at that price to cover that $8M advance.
18 posted on 06/17/2003 11:55:56 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
"Like a rock! Oooooooh, Hillary's book sales are sinking like a rock...."

SeeBS-Viacom owns Simon & Schuster. The same people who replaced firemen and police officers boos with cheers on the Concert for NYC video.

19 posted on 06/17/2003 11:56:43 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Their friends bought advance copies. Now they need to get some to buy the retreat ones
20 posted on 06/17/2003 11:56:43 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RandyRep
I went to Costco yesterday and there were stacks of Hillary's and Sid's books.

Same thing at the Costco in my town. Hillary!s book was prominently displayed but only a few were missing from the huge stack.

21 posted on 06/17/2003 11:56:49 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I was in Sam's Club yesterday and saw it on sale for $16 and change. That's 40% off already.
22 posted on 06/17/2003 11:57:24 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Looks like the Union membership is buying Christmas stocking stuffers for the "lucky" brotheren!

Pray for GW and Our Troops

23 posted on 06/17/2003 11:58:05 AM PDT by bray ( Old Glory Stands for Freedom)
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To: iceskater
She's only been paid about $2.5 mill of the advance.....
24 posted on 06/17/2003 11:58:14 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: RandyRep
About the only reason to hope the book sells a million is that Tucker Carlson promised to eat his shoes on live TV on CNN if it does...
25 posted on 06/17/2003 11:59:14 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Oh, I hear the sound of someone falling off a perch...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....catch me Bill..............aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggghhhhh...thud....dang Bill you missed..
26 posted on 06/17/2003 11:59:20 AM PDT by Cate
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To: cyncooper
Fort Worthless Jim Wright was the one - you beat me to it! ;o)
27 posted on 06/17/2003 11:59:42 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: cyncooper
"New broom sweeps clean"

One of my Mother's favorite old sayings. In this instance, the double entendre makes it even better.

28 posted on 06/17/2003 12:00:51 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Calvin Coolidge; kimoajax
"I have a vague recollection of someone making a charge that some wealthy friends bought up tons and tons of an author's book, just to later unload them at a loss...as a ligit way to "reward" the author.

Who was it and what was the book?"

I'm afraid it was Newt Gingrich's book from right after the '94 elections.

Wrong Speaker of the House. It was Jim Wright.

29 posted on 06/17/2003 12:01:47 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: ken5050
About the only reason to hope the book sells a million is that Tucker Carlson promised to eat his shoes on live TV on CNN if it does...

Hopefully after he has stepped in dog excrement.

30 posted on 06/17/2003 12:02:54 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: kimoajax
Unions bought Jim Wright's book.
31 posted on 06/17/2003 12:03:09 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Well I'm Freeeeee .... Freefalling. Yes, I'm freeeeee. Freefalling.
32 posted on 06/17/2003 12:03:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: randog
Same thing at the Costco in my town. Hillary!s book was prominently displayed but only a few were missing from the huge stack.

So what, exactly, is the penalty for taking a leak on a big ol' pile of books down at the local Costco? And if you have to reimburse the store for the cost of the books, would that constitute a sale?

33 posted on 06/17/2003 12:04:21 PM PDT by gridlock ("Living History" is like the "Living Constitution": Reinterpreted as current conditions require...)
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To: js1138
Here is the LINK to Hillary's book. But it's even worse than you think. Hillary's book got beaten out in the #3 slot by a NON-FICTION book called THE PATHWAY. Since Hillary's book has been hyped as the best selling non-fiction book in history with over 600,000, this must mean that The Pathway is doing EVEN BETTER. But has anybody even heard of this book before. I know for sure it hasn't had even 10% of the hype of Hillary's book yet it has beaten out the Hillary book even though it was published way back in January of this year.

News organizations really need to look into the PHONY HYPE being conducted by Simon & Schuster.

34 posted on 06/17/2003 12:05:05 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The bow tie may also be an impediment to swallowing..
35 posted on 06/17/2003 12:05:07 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: cyncooper
I wasn't accusing Uncle Newtie of being unethical. People bought the book with their own money, though partly motivated by a desire to inflate the numbers.

Jim Wright lost his speakership by using his book as a cynical fund-raising technique in order to skirt campaign-finance laws, which is behavior of an entirely different nature.
36 posted on 06/17/2003 12:05:46 PM PDT by Calvin Coolidge
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To: JLAGRAYFOX


Melting! I'm melting. Melting

37 posted on 06/17/2003 12:10:45 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: PJ-Comix
Actually I suspect that the first 200,000 copies were sold to Michael Jackson, but he'll return them because they just aren't quite the right shade of smoky puce to match his curtains.
38 posted on 06/17/2003 12:15:15 PM PDT by js1138
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To: PJ-Comix
Here's a list of books that were bought with Hillary!s book:

An Unfinished Life: John F. Kennedy, 1917-1963 by Robert Dallek (Hardcover)
Leap of Faith: Memoirs of an Unexpected Life by Queen Noor (Hardcover)
The Woman Who Wouldn't Talk by Susan McDougal, et al (Hardcover)
Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth by Joe Conason (Author) (Hardcover)
The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton by Joe Conason, Gene Lyons (Hardcover)

Hillary!s book is only popular with lefties--not a good sign for S&S.

39 posted on 06/17/2003 12:17:14 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: My2Cents
She got a third of her money. So far.
40 posted on 06/17/2003 12:19:13 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Any time a publisher or anyone else declares victory that early in the game - We won! We're brilliant! Envy us! It's been a whole day and we have the best book OF ALL TIME!!!!!!! - it's pretty clear they know they won't have much to brag about a little further down the road.

I'm sure S&S made all sorts of deals to spread out its risk, and was probably in the black on this before the witch even hired someone to write the book.

41 posted on 06/17/2003 12:19:20 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Calvin Coolidge; kimoajax
I have a vague recollection of someone making a charge that some wealthy friends bought up tons and tons of an author's book, just to later unload them at a loss...as a ligit way to "reward" the author.

Who was it and what was the book?

I'm afraid it was Newt Gingrich's book from right after the '94 elections.

I think the book in question was by Jim Wright, Texas Dim, and Speaker of the House. Wright got unions and other Dim contributors to buy the book in bulk as a way of laundering money to him. Gingrich rode Wright out of the House over the book and Dims never forgave Gingrich.

Gingrich signed a deal after he became speaker that generated so much outrage among Dims and their lapdogs at ABCCBSNBCCNN he eventually said "screw it" and renounced the advance.

42 posted on 06/17/2003 12:20:33 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: ken5050
She needs to sell TWO MILLION to make the 8 million back for S&S.
43 posted on 06/17/2003 12:21:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
"Yo, Terry!! We need some help here."

"Tell those bastards at Amazon that either Hillie's ranking goes up or some of the FBI file contents get released; Craig is on the other line, my friend."

"We've also got all this union and Chinese money. Have Janet get a bunch of her Jamaican and Haitian folks on some computers and lets buy a bunch of copies. We can't give all the dem and Hillie haters MORE ammunition!"

"It was so much easier when Willie was in office, we could just call the NYT or the National Enquirer and have them print some story to divert attention."

"Hey, how about NEVER MIND HILLIE'S BOOK FAILURE, Bush was on the boat with his father and neither had on a life jacket!!!"

44 posted on 06/17/2003 12:23:31 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: PJ-Comix
News organizations really need to look into the PHONY HYPE being conducted by Simon & Schuster.

Unfortunately, news organizations are too busy taking the faxes they receive from Simon & Schuster and putting them right into print or giving them on-air dissemination.

Even Fox.

45 posted on 06/17/2003 12:23:42 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
It looks as if the "KlinToon Kool Aid"supplies are(at last)running low!
46 posted on 06/17/2003 12:23:56 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: mathluv
Unions bought Jim Wright's book.

We have a winner!

47 posted on 06/17/2003 12:24:18 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: Calvin Coolidge
People bought the book with their own money, though partly motivated by a desire to inflate the numbers.

And you base this assertion on what?

48 posted on 06/17/2003 12:25:08 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
They seem to be counting the store orders, not the consumer sales. The book is heavily discounted everywhere, in hopes of moving the books off the shelves. Costco is pushing the book on their website for 15.00.
49 posted on 06/17/2003 12:26:10 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Calvin Coolidge
...in order to skirt campaign-finance laws

BTW, that is what some of us are accusing hrc of doing via Simon & Schuster.

50 posted on 06/17/2003 12:26:21 PM PDT by cyncooper
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