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Behold the smooth, sweet powers of liquid N (Liquid nitrogen ice cream! Yum!)
Popular Science ^ | July 2003 | Theodore Gray

Posted on 06/17/2003 9:11:22 PM PDT by mhking

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To: Boiler Plate
Have you tried a Berz-0-matic for lighting the charcoal and getting it quickly to 'cooking white'?
41 posted on 06/17/2003 10:47:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Actually, it's because N2 contains no oxygen. Room air contains ~21% O2. The O2 combines with the rubber in the tires, forming a solid oxidized rubber dust. This process:

(1) reduces the amount of gas available to keep the tire full (since the O2 is no longer a gas)

(2) causes the tire to fail.

N2 doesn't react with rubber (or with anything else, for that matter, under the conditions found inside a tire), so it stays in gas form, and the tires last longer.

Water vapor is also theoretically bad for the inside of tires, since it allows microorganisms to grow in the tire, but vulcanized rubber is apparently toxic enough to the little buggers that this is generally not a problem.

42 posted on 06/17/2003 10:57:54 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Jubal Harshaw
I've never heard of tires being found full of oxidized rubber powder. It would seem to me that if this truly is a problem, some kind of coating on the inside of the tire would work just as well.
43 posted on 06/17/2003 11:07:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Whoops. I forgot about the effect of water + O2 on the metal parts of the tire. Water + O2 rusts the steel belts and valve parts of the tire. Yet another way in which N2 (no H2O or O2) improves the life of the tire.
44 posted on 06/17/2003 11:08:27 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: HiTech RedNeck; supercat
Do either of you have the Purdue University professor's LOX barbeque explosion video? I've been looking for it since it was first posted on FR, just days before the university made the professor remove the video from his website.
45 posted on 06/17/2003 11:14:02 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: HiTech RedNeck
(1) The oxidized rubber does not fall into the inside of the tire; it's generally still in the tire matrix, but without the structural properties that helped keep the tire together before the rubber was oxidized. Perhaps I should not have used the word "dust" in this context; I was simply trying to provide a visualization of how the rubber fails after being oxidized. Your question illuminated the fact that I did a bad job. So, please forget the word "dust;" try "non-structurally stable rubber" instead.

(2) Tires do have inner liners, as well as antioxidants within the tires material itself. These are both subject to oxidation, and eventually wear out.
46 posted on 06/17/2003 11:15:25 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: nightdriver
You mean Dippin' Dots?
47 posted on 06/17/2003 11:28:03 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: JerseyHighlander
LOX? You mean LOX? Not lox?

Damn, no wonder I have such a messy, oily, stinky grill!

Now, what do I do with all these bagels.

48 posted on 06/17/2003 11:40:56 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Jubal Harshaw
When the history of the world is finally written it will be revealed that it was oxygen that reduced it all to dust.
49 posted on 06/17/2003 11:44:02 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: mvpel
"You mean Dippin' Dots?"

Most likely the same process, however what I saw twenty years before this guy patented "Dots" was a lot finer grained.

Back in the sixties they were looking for markets for liquid nitrogen as the demand for it is not nearly as great as it is for oxygen and they produce almost four times as much of it to get oxygen out of atmospheric air.

This ice cream process was just one of the suggestions.

50 posted on 06/18/2003 12:53:26 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: mhking
Very cool post, king! Thanks.
51 posted on 06/18/2003 5:54:13 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: drlevy88; Paleo Conservative
A themos bottle is a dewar and would work, you just don't want to close it tightly, as LN2 expands by a factor of almost 900 when it changes to gas. I get 230 liters for about $180.
52 posted on 06/18/2003 5:58:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: mhking; hellinahandcart; The Shrew
Pretty cool story!
53 posted on 06/18/2003 6:02:12 AM PDT by sauropod (Watch out for low flying brooms! The Witch has left the Wal-Mart)
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To: ffusco
Too salty.
54 posted on 06/18/2003 6:05:23 AM PDT by gitmo (When this is over I'm gonna need some serious therapy. Lookit my eye twitch. Didya see that?)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Another use for nitrogen that's well known around aircraft maintenance circles is it's use in vehicle tires instead of compressed air. It stops most all slow leaks.

I never heard anything about slow leaks. That would get repaired, not "stop-a-flat" anyway. The nitrogen is inert, will not react with the rubber as oxygen will. It's also dry nitrogen, so moisture will not accumulate as in automobile tires.
55 posted on 06/18/2003 6:05:23 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: rmh47
Apparently, the temperature differential between your body and the liquid nitrogen is so great that the radiant heat from you hand causes the stuff to instantly boil and forms an insulating layer of gas between them.

You are referring to the Leidenfrost effect. It's really quite fascinating and you can do more than hold a ball of liquid nitrogen in your hands. It's even possible to dip your hand into molten lead or to gargle liquid nitrogen, if you know what you are doing. See this page for some interesting discussion and cool photos of the above.

56 posted on 06/18/2003 6:42:30 AM PDT by Neologic ("I hate quotations, tell me what you know.")
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To: supercat
I wonder if these guys use lox as a barbecue starter?

I've seen it done. Open bucket of the stuff, attached to a ten-foot pole, poured over a single lit coal.

Kids, do not try this at home.

57 posted on 06/18/2003 7:08:21 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: Neologic
It's even possible to dip your hand into molten lead or to gargle liquid nitrogen,

Just wondering out loud...how was the first idiot to try this?

58 posted on 06/18/2003 7:18:01 AM PDT by Drango (To be on or off my NPR/PBS Ping list please Freep mail me)
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To: Paleo Conservative
And where does one get a quart of liquid nitrogen to play with?
59 posted on 06/18/2003 7:55:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: drlevy88
Partially correct. Crystal formation and freezing temperatures and such are technically part of the studies in chemistry.
60 posted on 06/18/2003 7:57:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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