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Aerial skirmishing overshadows EU summit
FT ^ | 6/17/2003 | Leyla Boulton in Ankara and Kerin Hope in Athens

Posted on 06/18/2003 5:40:02 AM PDT by a_Turk

A spate of skirmishing by Turkish and Greek military aircraft over the Aegean has cast a shadow over Greece's preparations for hosting Friday's Thessaloniki summit of European Union and accession candidates.

Last week an Olympic Airways aircraft on a flight from Athens to Istanbul took evasive action to avoid two Turkish F-16 aircraft that were seeking to intercept Greek F-16s. The incident, amid what Greece describes as an "astronomical" increase of Turkish violations of Greek airspace, raised the stakes in a festering disagreement over control of the Aegean.

"This is a game but it is a very dangerous one," George Papandreou, the Greek foreign minister who fostered a four-year-old rapprochement with successive Turkish governments, told the Financial Times.

For close to three decades the two Nato allies' fighter pilots have challenged each other's manoeuvres over the Aegean, largely because Turkey, like much of the international community, does not accept Greek definitions of its air space boundaries.

At odds with international practice, Greece sets these wider than its territorial waters. It also demands, contradicting international convention, that foreign military aircraft give Athens flight plans before flying into international airspace over the Aegean.

Ankara challenges Athens' stance both by routinely sending military aircraft into the contested airspace and by refusing to file flight plans for international airspace over the Aegean.

When Turkish warplanes enter the disputed zone, Greeks scramble their fighters and, although no shots are fired, try to squeeze them on to a flight path out of the area.

On a diplomatic level the dispute had been dormant, thanks to a rapprochement between the two countries aimed at resolving over time their differences over Cyprus and the Aegean. Greece helping Turkey join the EU has been an important part of that process. But Athens last month raised the issue of alleged Turkish airspace violations with the European Commission.

It said Turkey was acting against the EU's Copenhagen criteria for accession candidates, which call for maintaining good neighbourly relations. Turkish officials admit there has been a tripling of such flights between 2000 and 2002. But they also claim this is partly to do with increased security threats after the airborne terror attacks on the US of September 11 2001. They and Greek commentators suggest Athens may have domestic political reasons for bringing up the dispute now.

Greece's own statistics indicate that any "astronomical" increase in Turkish "violations" occurred in 2002 rather than in more recent months.

This supports a contention by some political analysts that the dispute reflects mounting pressure felt by the governing Greek Socialists. With an election due early next year, the opposition centre-right is consistently ahead in opinion polls.

So far the Greek consensus over maintaining better relations with Turkey has held firm. But Mr Papandreou, the most popular politician in Greece, cannot afford to see his prospects punctured by accusations from hardliners within his own party and the opposition that he is too "soft" on Turkey.

Alexander Lykourezos, a hardline nationalist parliamentarian of the opposition New Democracy, argues that Mr Papandreou's "smiling policy" has produced no benefits for Greece. "What has Turkey done in return?" he asks.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: eu; greece; napalminthemorning; turkey; wot

1 posted on 06/18/2003 5:40:02 AM PDT by a_Turk
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To: Shermy; aristotleman; prairiebreeze; Dog Gone; alethia; AM2000; ARCADIA; ...
ping
2 posted on 06/18/2003 5:40:34 AM PDT by a_Turk (Lookout, lookout, the candy man..)
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To: a_Turk
It's a wonder that both nations are NATO "allies."
3 posted on 06/18/2003 5:52:02 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: a_Turk
IMO NATO will choose to bomb Greece/Christians, and align itself with Turkey/Muslims as they did in Serbia/Kosovo.
4 posted on 06/18/2003 6:01:27 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (middle finger salute to all muslims this a.m.)
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To: a_Turk
Ain't the EU great? I'm sure that France and Germany will create some policy to gurantee "peace in our time". If I were a Turkish citizen, I would be locking and loading. With the EU in charge, war is all but guranteed.
5 posted on 06/18/2003 6:06:40 AM PDT by Beck_isright (When Senator Byrd landed on an aircraft carrier, the blacks were forced below shoveling coal...)
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To: gitmogrunt
Snap out of the religion groove. You sound like a Wahaby..
6 posted on 06/18/2003 6:11:07 AM PDT by a_Turk (Lookout, lookout, the candy man..)
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To: a_Turk
Turk - you are a good Turk as indicated in your home page. I think gitmo was speaking to the recent history of NATO siding with Muslims against Christians which happens to be an accurate assessment. This is not an attack on Muslims, only a recognition of what has taken place.
7 posted on 06/18/2003 6:42:19 AM PDT by corkoman (did someone say cheese?)
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To: a_Turk
If the Greeks had their way about international boundariesTurks would have to show their passports to take a dip in the Med.
8 posted on 06/18/2003 6:56:40 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Is anyone else tired of reading these tag lines?)
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To: corkoman
What has taken place did not do so based on religion.
9 posted on 06/18/2003 7:11:57 AM PDT by a_Turk (Lookout, lookout, the candy man..)
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To: a_Turk
Are you sure a McDonalds franchise is not involved in this?
10 posted on 06/18/2003 7:16:44 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: a_Turk; gitmogrunt
He's right. NATO sided with the wrong people in the balkans. We should have wiped out the KLA and helped the Serbians. Instead, we attacked the Serbians.

Now it comes to light that Milosevic did NOT order any massacres, and that those Albanians that were supposedly killed by Serbs were ACTUALLY killed by Albanian Muslim extremists.

I have respect for Turks, big time. They are great warriors and had the greatest empire ever. Unfortunately, Islam is threatening the entire world once again, and Clinton and idiot Ramsey Clark, then NATO commander, attacked Serbs when their homeland is once again being overrun by a bunch of Islamic extremists. Thanks to NATO and the idiotic leadership of the United States, Serbians have been forced to leave Kosovo - part of their ancient homeland. Now a bunch of towel heads live there, polluting the area.

I guess the Serbs are once again the only thing holding back Islam from encroaching into the Christian world. Long live Serbia.
11 posted on 06/18/2003 8:01:46 AM PDT by Norse
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To: Norse

and Clinton and idiot Ramsey Clark, then NATO commander,

That would be Wesley Clark. He was the NATO commander. Ramsey Clark is the anti-American peace activist with ANSWER.

12 posted on 06/18/2003 8:44:56 AM PDT by Sparta (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Sparta
Yea, Wesley...Ramsey popped into my head. Thanks!
13 posted on 06/18/2003 9:01:52 AM PDT by Norse
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To: a_Turk
If both Turkey and Greece are EU members, does this issue become moot?

Where does Turkey's accession to EU membership stand, is Germany still being difficult?
14 posted on 06/18/2003 10:46:21 AM PDT by marron
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To: a_Turk
So, if Greece and Turkey go to war against each other, would it be a "civil war" in the context of the EU?

Sheee-it, those Euro-weenies would probably come a'cryin' to the US to come in and work as "peacekeepers".

It's a wonder they can even wipe their own butts. Oh, wait, they have those bidet thingies to do it for them, don't they? LOL

15 posted on 06/18/2003 12:12:49 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("I am not a number - I am a FREE MAN!")
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