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Iranian Alert -- DAY 10 -- LIVE THREAD PING LIST
LIVE THREAD PING LIST | 6.19.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 06/19/2003 2:41:28 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

We are getting so many excellent stories coming in about the protests in Iran that it is time to create a live thread.

Please post all news stories in this thread and ping your lists to this thread so we can increase the overall awareness of what exactly is going on.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; protests; southasia; southasialist; studentmovement
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1 posted on 06/19/2003 2:41:28 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
I hear that the protests are fizzling out. Is that true?
2 posted on 06/19/2003 3:20:18 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: USMMA_83
I don't think so, and I see that W is trying to make sure that they don't.
I just hope we don't have another repeat of the Hungarian revolution or Czeck uprising, where we sat back and let those people get stomped.
Tough call, but when it reaches a boiling point, do we send units across the border to help?
We've got three+ Divisions in there, would you send some in to help?
I would, but then I don't know what the President knows.....
3 posted on 06/19/2003 3:50:04 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is a war room".)
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To: USMMA_83
Far from it.
They are getting much more organized and intense. But the media is not given real access to the protests.
4 posted on 06/19/2003 3:50:58 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: JulieRNR21; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; RobFromGa; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; ...
Email Ted Koppel at Nightline!

For those who have been supporting the Iranian student movement, Ted Koppel’s Nightline broadcast was a huge disappointment. Either Ted is either incredibly ignorant, or deceitful in his misrepresentation of the facts. We could and perhaps we should parse the entire program. But I will focus on his interview with Michael Ledeen (expert in Iranian affairs).

Ted started his discussion with Michael by stating that not everyone thinks Iran is dangerous. Incredible.

He attempted to mislead the public into believing that Michael was a Bush administration insider. If you have been reading Michael's articles over the years, you would know that he has consistently tried to put the pressure on the Bush administration for not having a coherent, visible policy on Iran. He is famous for ending his articles on Iran with the plea "faster please" which directed to the state department and the administration. This is the voice of one wanting to influence the administration, not an insider directing it.

Ted attempted to call into question US charges that Iran sponsors terrorism. His reason for calling this into question was that this is the same administration that said Iraq was a sponsor of terrorism (as if there was no such evidence). He discounted anything the US intelligence community has to say.

Ted tried to deny that the protests were motivated by a desire for freedom and a secular democracy. He claimed it was all motivated over anger over proposed privatizing of some universities in Iran. It is true that the first day of the protests that was the a catalyst for the student protests, but it was merely the spark that has set off a fire within Iran. Those same students are the ones now calling for a secular democracy. Other news reports say that currently only 10% of the protesters are students.

Even when Michael pointed out Iranian internal polling that indicated that 70-90% of the population want an end to the regime, Ted dismissed that, as if anything reported anywhere is suspect.
It appeared to me that Ted felt this was an opportunity to discredit the president. He took it but looked either ignorant of deceitful.

If you are one of the millions of Americans who just witnessed this so-called report and are as angry as I am at its gross misrepresentation of the facts please email Ted Koppel and say so.

You can email them at their webpage:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/Nightline/Nightline_email_form.html


"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”


5 posted on 06/19/2003 3:55:38 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Psalm 73
We may have 3 divisions near, but they are a little tired...I don't see them gearing up and crossing the border...if you start seeing/hearing other units(stateside) mobilizing for deployment..that would be a clue.
6 posted on 06/19/2003 3:56:44 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: DoctorZIn
International pressure is mounting on the Iranian nuke program while the protest is going unabated:

Graphic of Iran's nuclear facilities. The IAEA will release a judgement Thursday on Iran's nuclear program which is expected to be weaker than the US wants as it warns Tehran is secretly trying to develop atomic weapons(AFP/Graphic)
Thu Jun 19, 2:56 AM ET

Graphic of Iran's nuclear facilities. The IAEA will release a judgement Thursday on Iran's nuclear program which is expected to be weaker than the US wants as it warns Tehran is secretly trying to develop atomic weapons(AFP/Graphic)


7 posted on 06/19/2003 4:30:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: DoctorZIn
World - AFP

Two Iranians set themselves on fire in Rome


12 minutes ago Add World - AFP to My Yahoo!


ROME (AFP) - Two Iranians set themselves on fire outside the French embassy to protest France's crackdown on the opposition People's Mujahedeen, but firefighters immediately intervened.


The two men, aged between 50 to 60, suffered burns to their legs and chest, but their injuries were not life-threatening as they were immediately doused by firefighters standing by during the demonstration in Rome.


Eight people have now either set themselves on fire or tried to in Paris, London, Bern and Rome, since French police moved against the People's Mujahedeen on Tuesday maintaining the group posed a threat to the country's security.


The French embassy had feared something could happen during Thursday's demonstration in Rome and had asked for firefighters to be on standby, a press spokesman told AFP.


Demonstrators had earlier called for the release of scores of members of the People's Muhajedeen, the main Iranian opposition group, detained by French police in the massive raid on Tuesday.


Three people carried out acts of self-immolation in Paris on Wednesday, with two similar fiery protests in London. A sixth man in the Swiss city of Bern was stopped Wednesday before he could set light to his petrol-doused clothes.


French security officials have said the People's Mujahedeen -- which is designated a terrorist group by the United States, the European Union (news - web sites) and Iran -- intended to make France its centre of operations against the Tehran government after losing its bases in Iraq (news - web sites) following the US-led victory there.







8 posted on 06/19/2003 4:38:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: USMMA_83
Look for the students and other demonstrators to scale back their protests to regroup and get ready for the week of July 9th.
9 posted on 06/19/2003 4:42:04 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: DoctorZIn
The hatred and mistrust for the United States, and especially Republican Administrations, will always outweigh the potential good that America can produce, in the worldview of Ted Koppel and Friends. In their eyes, America is always to be suspected in its motives, even above suspicion for regimes like the one in Iran.
10 posted on 06/19/2003 4:50:57 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: DoctorZIn
Thanks for the ping
11 posted on 06/19/2003 4:57:30 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: DoctorZIn
I read on BBC that the demonstations were almost over.
12 posted on 06/19/2003 5:04:59 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: DoctorZIn
"...Either Ted is either incredibly ignorant, or deceitful in his misrepresentation of the facts."

He's both! But we already knew that.

13 posted on 06/19/2003 5:13:38 AM PDT by theDentist (So. This is Virginia.... where are all the virgins?)
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To: USMMA_83
Yikes, be careful about watching Blatantly Biased Coverage too much! Can't be good for the eyes or the senses, LOL!

bookmarking to check in later

Prairie
14 posted on 06/19/2003 5:15:49 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (The "Religion of Peace" says it's OK to kill your daughter if you think she's behaved shamefully.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Once we get access to the secret files of the Iranian government, all the enablers of the mullahs' regime will be totally discredited.
15 posted on 06/19/2003 5:18:27 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: everyone
May God bless the Iranian people, and give them freedom.

I think this is the most important story going on in the world right now and hope there is more coverage.
16 posted on 06/19/2003 5:40:48 AM PDT by broadsword ("The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. " Edmund Burke)
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To: DoctorZIn
Well we can now stop this series of threads.
Iranian protests gradually die down
Taipei Times ^ | 06.18.03
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931143/posts
Whistling past the graveyard alert!
17 posted on 06/19/2003 5:57:03 AM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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To: DoctorZIn
I watched it and he more than held his own against ol helmethair.
18 posted on 06/19/2003 5:58:49 AM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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To: Psalm 73
Tough call, but when it reaches a boiling point, do we send units across the border to help?

No as all this would do is play into the hands of the mullahs.
19 posted on 06/19/2003 6:00:29 AM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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To: DoctorZIn
"If you have been reading Michael's articles over the years, you would know that he has consistently tried to put the pressure on the Bush administration for not having a coherent, visible policy on Iran. He is famous for ending his articles on Iran with the plea "faster please" which directed to the state department and the administration. This is the voice of one wanting to influence the administration, not an insider directing it. "

Koppel's (and ABC's) research is sloppy at best.

20 posted on 06/19/2003 6:32:24 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Psalm 73
Tough call, but when it reaches a boiling point, do we send units across the border to help?

Not sure that would be the wisest thing to do. But SpecOps, on the other hand, can accomplish wonders in Iran. And as various sources have reported, our commandos are in there as we speak.

21 posted on 06/19/2003 7:42:24 AM PDT by TonyRo76
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To: TonyRo76
Re #21

If there is ever a military conflict in Iran, it will be SpecOps war. Even that can come only after mullahs inflict serious civilian casualties.

The trick is to keep the momentum of uprising alive and growing while not hastily jumping in with blazing guns. Helping Iranian exiles to go inside Iran and organize members of opposition for effective resistance is probably the best way.

22 posted on 06/19/2003 8:15:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The war has already started..http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931860/posts
23 posted on 06/19/2003 8:19:49 AM PDT by ewing
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To: USMMA_83
I hear that the protests are fizzling out. Is that true?

That's a lot of wishful thinking on the part of the mass media.

The last thing they and the Arab world want is a Iranian student uprising that deposes the mullahs. During and afterward, there would have to be the obligitory news retrospectives about the Iranian hostages and the 444 days of Democratic foreign policy incompetance and military leadership impotence at the time that they are ginning up the public for the 2004 Democratic presidential candidates.

Some in the electorate may remember just who was President at the time and decide that you just cannot trust Democrats with the really important issues affecting the US and the world. As if 9/11 and Iraq didn't already firmly establish that precedent, the Left, the media and the rest of the world don't want to provide any more supporting evidence to that claim.

24 posted on 06/19/2003 8:32:01 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Helping Iranian exiles to go inside Iran...

Good strategery! ;)

25 posted on 06/19/2003 8:49:59 AM PDT by TonyRo76
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To: DoctorZIn
Martial Law status in Esfahan province
SMCCDI (Information Service)
June 19, 2003

A non official status of Martial law has been instated in what seems to be the unability of the regime to overcome of the popular rebellion in the Esfhan province.

Hundreds of more Arab speaking troops who have been deployed in the cities of Homayoon Shahr, Shahain Shahr and Esfahan istelf clashes till the early hours of this morning in most areas of these cities where chase and run and even guerillero movements were tackin place, such as, for the first time the armed attack of some of the Bassidj Force's HQ.

Several security patrol and bikes were destroyed in narrow streets were Molotov Cocktails were thrown from roofs on the regime forces deployment forcing them to run.

A manhunt has been organized in order to arrest those identified in the unrests.

Source: SMCCDI

26 posted on 06/19/2003 9:01:16 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: DoctorZIn
Pejmanesque Blog

Found this site via Andrew Sullivan. They need our help!! Let's help them!! Write to Congress and tell them to get off their rear ends and earn their taxpayer funded salaries.

27 posted on 06/19/2003 9:03:52 AM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: *southasia_list
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
28 posted on 06/19/2003 9:32:41 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: aristeides
That is the pot of gold here, what is inside Iran's intelligence facility..
29 posted on 06/19/2003 9:38:19 AM PDT by ewing
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To: MoJo2001
I like it.
30 posted on 06/19/2003 9:44:12 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Cries of "Freedom, Freedom" answered by knives, clubs and chains
SMCCDI (Information Service)
June 19, 2003

More security forces entered in action, in several area of Tehran, in order to desperately extingush
the cries of "Fredom, Freedom" shouted by the Iranian protesters.

Knives, Clubs and Chains were used against women, men, young and elder resulting in tens of more injured.

Tens of cars were dammaged by the security forces angered by this new tactic of forming traffic jam to slow their move.

The regime forces seem to have found more boost in their repressive actions as even, the so called "reformist" President Khatami gave them the Green Light for more repression when he qualified the huge demonstrations of the last 9 nights as the work of few acting following an American conspiracy.

The protsets will go more stronger this evening.


Source: SMCCDI

31 posted on 06/19/2003 9:54:05 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
Thank you all for posting this material to this thread. It is making it easier to Iranian Protest Watchers to keep up with the developoments.

Encourage others to do the same.
32 posted on 06/19/2003 10:33:13 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Eurotwit
Thank you all for posting this material to this thread. It is making it easier to Iranian Protest Watchers to keep up with the developoments.

Encourage others to do the same.
33 posted on 06/19/2003 10:33:15 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: JulieRNR21; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; RobFromGa; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; ...
Shocking Silence (The left on Iran)

frontpagemag/Salon.com ^ | June 19, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 06/19/2003 5:49 AM PDT by SJackson

Here is an excerpt of an excellent post...

"Could anyone on the left actually sympathize with the sexist, homophobic, anti-Semitic theocrats in Tehran? Of course not. But it seems that many of them hate the American right more than they hate foreign tyranny. A revolution in Iran might serve to cast a better light on President Bush's Middle East policy -- and that's so terrible a possibility that some leftists simply prefer to look the other way. Lefty blogger Matthew Yglesias let it slip that "these stories about the Iranian student movement have been so relentless hyped on rightwing sites that I think we on the left have been shying away from the story." That's an excuse? Mercifully for Yglesias, it isn't."

Read the entire story at

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931769/posts

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”
34 posted on 06/19/2003 10:38:02 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Freedom BUMP
35 posted on 06/19/2003 10:43:11 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: DoctorZIn; Persia
Bumping DoctorZIn! Thanks for the post!

Pinging Persia!

Doc, meet Persia...Persia, meet DoctorZIn.

36 posted on 06/19/2003 10:45:41 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I feel naked without a tagline.)
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To: DoctorZIn
bttt
37 posted on 06/19/2003 10:57:40 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: DoctorZIn
ATTENTION ALL Freepers WATCHING THE LA BASED IRANIAN TV BROADCASTS..

If you are Farsi speaking and watching the broadcasts into Iran, PLEASE email mail me privately. I want to get in touch with as many as possible. You could provide an invaluable service to the protests.

Please do it now.
38 posted on 06/19/2003 11:58:24 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Azadi)
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To: DoctorZIn
bttt
39 posted on 06/19/2003 12:14:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: JulieRNR21; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; RobFromGa; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; ...
Email Foxnews and Brit Hume and ask them discuss the extraordinary Nightline broadcast for their listeners.

It would be a great way for them to show the distinctions among the supporter of the Iranian protest and those that are critical of it.

Speakout@foxnews.com
Viewerservices@foxnews.com
foxnewsnow@foxnews.com
specialreport@foxnews.com (Brit Hume)

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”
40 posted on 06/19/2003 12:24:51 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Azadi)
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To: DoctorZIn; Sabine; Shermy; knighthawk
Sickening story: Iranians arrested in Paris protest.
41 posted on 06/19/2003 12:41:05 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: DoctorZIn
Hume on Fox News has been giving good coverage on the Iranian Protests. In fact the Panel has discussed it most nights.

I will email him & all the FOX Shows.....again!

Also suggest we ask them to
Contact by Email:

Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

la_fleur_violette@yahoo.com

Whom you said is an intelligent spokeswoman for the protesters.
She is very connected, a filmmaker and her father (also a filmmaker) is in Evin prison right now. She lives in the NY area.






42 posted on 06/19/2003 1:06:11 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
Thanks.
43 posted on 06/19/2003 1:14:07 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Azadi)
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ISLAMIC BASIJ SAYS IT WOULD PUT DOWN STUDENTS PROTEST MOVEMENT

TEHRAN 19 June (IPS)

Iranian conservatives-controlled Basij volunteers vowed Thursday to crackdown the students protest movement, scoffing an earlier declaration by the lamed President Mohammad Khatami pledging that his government “would not tolerate” the vigilante groups assail the students and the people who, since more than a week, are demonstrating against the regime and all the clerical leaders.

But at the same time, he also defended police for confronting rioters. In a statement, the Basij militia of Tehran said the protests against clerical rule had been provoked by the "Great Satan", which was using what Ayatollah Ali Khameneh'i had described and denounced as its "mercenaries", to challenge Iran's Islamic leaders, the official IRNA news agency reported.

"We pledge to defend the sacred Islamic regime, its achievements and our beloved leader as we would our own lives, and will never cease this sacred battle even for a moment", the statement said.

The Basij, fiercely loyal to Mr. Khameneh’i and trained and equipped by the Revolutionary Guards, were at the forefront of the brutal repression of the protest movement with the Ansar Hezbollah thugs.

Students, backed by thousands of residents of the Capital, continued with their demonstrations and slogans calling on the leaders to step down. “Este’fa (Resignation), Referendum”, demonstrators chanted in Tehran Pars, a working class suburb east of Tehran and in Karaj, a predominantly middle class town situated on the opposite side, with police trying to keep the vigilante attacking the protesters.

"It's like martial law. You're scared to go anywhere at night in case they stop you and search you", the British news agency Reuters quoted one man as he edged his car nervously through the traffic-clogged streets under the watchful gaze of the bearded militants.

An eyewitness told Iran Press Service that the Islamic Basij and thugs, wielding batons, knives and chains are now attacking cars that blare their horns and clog the streets in order to create a “car shield” to protect demonstrators.

Other major cities like Mash-had, Shiraz, Tabriz and Esfahan were reported “tense” on Thursday, after protesters clashed with the vigilante.

With the authorities keeping an uneasy silence, students sources said more than a thousands have been arrested and three hundreds wounded since the start of the movement last Tuesday.

Breaking his silence, President Khatami said he was proud those protesting against Islamic rule had only numbered a few hundred, while eyewitnesses confirms that crowd numbering at the thousands take every night to the streets near students dormitories, protecting them from assaults by the plainclothes thugs.

According to Mr. Khatami, who was elected twice as president thanks mostly to the votes of millions of young Iranians who now calls for his resignation also lashed out at American official’s support for the student-led protests, saying it “only serves to unite his country against the United States”.

"The incorrect position adopted by the Americans, irrespective of the fact that it was an act of interference in Iran's internal affairs, fortunately caused greater national solidarity", the powerless president told reporters after meeting with the Afghan and Tajik presidents, signing a trilateral agreement for the construction of a transit route connecting Tajikistan to the Persian Gulf, via the land locked, war ravaged Afghanistan.

US President George W. Bush on Wednesday paid tribute to "those courageous souls who speak out for freedom in Iran" and urged Tehran to treat protesters with "the utmost of respect".

"They need to know America stands squarely by their side", he said in Washington, “I’m confident that if I call upon my countrymen to protest against foreign interference, an overwhelming majority of Tehran residents will support my call", he said, oblivion of the demonstrators who call every night for his resignation and chanting death to Khameneh'i.

Last Thursday, Mr. Khameneh’i said that Washington was behind riots and wowed that the faithful would deal mercilessly with the students.

”Death to Khameneh’i“, the students responded. ENDS
STUDENTS UNRFEST 19603

http://www.iran-press-service.com/

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”
44 posted on 06/19/2003 2:02:00 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad)
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To: JulieRNR21; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; RobFromGa; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; ...
Banafsheh just sent me this… your emails and faxes to Tony Blair appear to be working.

The European Union must cut the Imperialist opportunism out and do the right thing for once....Iranians who have been TORTURED at the hands of the murderous regime of the Islamic Republic, have been begging the EU to cut all economic ties to Iran for the last 2 years but they have not complied. We hope that this time, they do not disappoint us.


Thursday, June 19, 2003

Blair Urges Iran Sanctions

June 19, 2003
This is London
Joe Murphy

Tony Blair flies out today on a new mission to persuade France and Germany to back George Bush - this time over Iran.

He will use a dinner tonight at the crucial EU summit in Greece to urge Europe to unite behind America's tough ultimatum over Iran's nuclear programme and links with terrorists.

Despite lingering resentments among some EU leaders over the war to topple Saddam Hussein, the Prime Minister will say President Bush is right to keep the pressure on rogue Middle East states.

And he will insist that the EU must be willing to impose punitive trade sanctions, including the cancellation of deals worth hundreds of millions of pounds, as a last resort to haul Iran's leadership into line.

"It is not yet at the point of sanctions but the Prime Minister believes Europe must send out a very strong political message to Iran," said a senior Downing Street aide.

"Iran must comply with demands that it cooperate." Mr Blair's intervention-risks a clash with EU leaders unnerved by hints from the Pentagon that the stand-off could lead to military action.

But he will warn that a united stance now is the best strategy to force Iran to toe the line and avert a bigger crisis in future.

His move comes a day after President Bush rode to his defence against claims that Downing Street exaggerated intelligence evidence that Saddam had chemical and biological warheads at 45-minute readiness.


"He [Blair] operated on very sound intelligence and those accusations are simply not true," President Bush declared. The Prime Minister believes there is enough alarm about Iran's behaviour within Europe that he can successfully ward off another damaging EU/US split despite the tensions left by the Iraq war. One aide described it as an example of Mr Blair acting as a "bridge" between the two continents.

The 15 EU leaders will meet for dinner in a hotel complex at Porto Carras, in northern Greece, for the first summit since the Iraq war ended.

Mr Blair will use the event to reestablish his pro-Europe credentials at the same time as backing President Bush. He will reassure leaders of his aim to join the single currency and, in a symbolic burying of the hatchet with Jacques Chirac of France, will jointly propose that Europe matches an American pledge to give $1 billion to the fight against Aids, malaria and TB in the Third World.

And he is expected to win endorsement for President Bush's road map to peace between Israel and the Palestinians. "They have all moved on since the difficulties over Iraq," said a Downing Street official.

At the heart of the summit is a ceremonial welcome for the draft EU constitution, to be presented by former French president Valery Giscard d'Estaing. Although no decisions are being taken, it will open a year-long round of horse-trading over the details.

Mr Blair aims to block a power grab by European Commission president Romano Prodi, who is calling for the veto to be abolished in key areas including taxation - a no-go zone for Britain.

He also wants to water down a plan to appoint a European foreign " minister", seen as an attempt to take on the trappings of nationhood by the EU.

But he is supporting historic proposals for an EU president, elected by member states.

Iain Duncan Smith was due to beat the Prime Minister to the Halkidiki peninsula, to attend a rival summit of Right-wing European party leaders.

The Tory leader called for a referendum on the proposed constitution as he set off, saying: "The constitution will transform the EU from a partnership of nation states into something like a state.

There will be more institutions, more grand posts, more powers for Brussels and little more democratic accountability."

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”
45 posted on 06/19/2003 2:09:09 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad)
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To: DoctorZIn
Blair bump!

I hope France and Germany will cooperate...for once in their miserable existance.

46 posted on 06/19/2003 2:35:51 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I feel naked without a tagline.)
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To: DoctorZIn
The EU would be beyond stupid to ignore what is happening in Iran. They're already in trouble because they backed the wrong man in Iraq and the Iraqi people won't forget it. If they back the wrong people in Iran, the Iranian people won't forget it and the EU will be in BIG trouble.

For their own future, they had better make the right choice this time.

47 posted on 06/19/2003 4:25:42 PM PDT by McGavin999
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"I will not wait on events, while dangers gather. I will not stand by, as peril draws closer and closer. The United States of America will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons."

China helps Iran to make nerve gas (5/24/98)
Iran has missile which can hit Isreal (9/26/98)
Iran to focus on longer-range Shihab-4 (7/19/00)
Iran 'building secret nuclear arms plants' (12/13/00)
CIA: China continues nuke cooperation with Iran (2/24/01)
Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA (9/8/01)
China and Iran threaten test ban treaty (3/26/02)
Iran's nuclear weapons program growing at secret sites, rebel group alleges (8/14/02)
China and Iran Test-Fire Missiles (9/6/02)
Iran's nuclear plant progress 'eye-opening' (3/10/03)
U.S. warns world that Iran has violated Non-Proliferation Treaty (4/30/03)
Iran denies nukes, refuses inspectors (5/7/03)
U.S. pushes for U.N. action against Iran (5/8/03)
Iran 'violating nuclear treaty' (5/8/03)
Iran Said to Be Producing Bioweapons (5/15/03)


"Any nation that harbors or supports terrorism will be regarded by the United States as 'hostile.'"

Iran Pledges Continued Support to PLO Radical Groups and Hizballah (5/15/99)
Iran ships long-range rockets to Hizbullah in Lebanon (2/28/00)
Iran steps up arms supply to Hezbollah (5/20/00)
US raps Iran over terror (12/21/01)
Israel Accuses Iran Plan to Destroy Jewish State with Nuclear Weapons (12/29/01)
U.S. spy satellites tracked weapons ship from Iran (1/7/02)
Official (Iran) calls for setting up Islamic fund for Palestinians (1/10/02)
Iran Arming Lebanese Terrorists With Anti-Aircraft Missiles (1/12/02)
Iran using PA as proxy against Israel - senior official (1/12/02)
Israel: Palestinians forming alliance with Iran (1/14/02)
Palestinian Arms List Matched Ship's Cargo: Shows Arafat's Plan, Israel Says (1/14/02)
Iran Sends Money, Arms to Palestinian Groups -Times (3/23/02)
Administration cites Iran, Iraq, Syria for fomenting terror against Israel (4/1/02)


"You are either with us, or against us."

Iran Won't Let U.S. Use Airspace (9/20/01)
Iran Won't Help U.S. (9/26/01)
Iran says U.S. attacks "unacceptable" (10/7/01)
Iran's Rafsanjani suggests nuclear attack on Israel (12/19/01)
Islamic Oil Could Be Effective Weapon, Iran Says (4/1/02)
"Iran must strike at at the heart of the United States"Rafsanjani (7/21/02)


"Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Iranian people's hope for freedom."

48 posted on 06/19/2003 5:34:41 PM PDT by Orion78 (FREE IRAN!)
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US Wages War From Within Iran

Asia Times and AFI Specialist Intelligence ^ | June 20, 2003 | Richard M. Bennett

Posted on 06/19/2003 7:53 AM PDT by ewing

The Central Intelligence Agency has been in contact with Senior Iranian Military personnel for several years and are to have believed to have developed a number of highly valuable operations to undermine Iran's defenses.

Excerpted Article

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931860/posts

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”

49 posted on 06/19/2003 8:44:31 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad)
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Iranian Accounts of riots of June 19, East Tehran

self | June 19, 2003 | RaceBannon
Posted on 06/19/2003 2:49 PM PDT by RaceBannon

I have an Iranian pen pal, and he just IM'd me about what has happened tonight. Here is what he told me of the riots of June 19th, 2003 in East Tehran.

Khashi: hi james there

bigjimusmc: hey

Khashi: how r u

Khashi: I escaped jim from hell tonight

bigjimusmc: just gopt home from doctor

Khashi: what is up with ur shoulder? bigjimusmc: what happened?

bigjimusmc: youu first!\

Khashi: East of Tehran was a hell

bigjimusmc: shooting?

Khashi: i escaped and now i m at uncles hom

Khashi: a few rounds of bullets

Khashi: I m in downtown

bigjimusmc: machine guns or single shots?

Khashi: Ak47

bigjimusmc: did you see anyone shooting?

Khashi: one block upper than my home

Khashi: in Tehranpars Area

Khashi: I saw many many guards

bigjimusmc: did you physically see the shooting or did you just hear it?

Khashi: i just heard it

bigjimusmc: was there any claims of peole getting shot or was it just shots in the air?

Khashi: I have no idea

bigjimusmc: any fires?

Khashi: yes

bigjimusmc: buildings? Tires? Cars?

Khashi: big fires on roads

Khashi: tires

Khashi: and one car blasted in front of IRIB ( TV and Radio )

bigjimusmc: was this bigger than any other night?

Khashi: at the same scale

bigjimusmc: did you see any tanks or armoured personnel carriers?

Khashi: i saw infantry guards

Khashi: anti-riots

bigjimusmc: the guys with the funny hats?

Khashi: Khashi: yeah

bigjimusmc: were you on the streets or were you just walkng around?

Khashi: i was about to meet some mates 500 meters down the same street

Khashi: as soon as i entered the street i saw the Police blocked it

Khashi: and ppl chanting death to ....... Khashi: yes

bigjimusmc: are the riots still going on?

Khashi: i dont know

Khashi: i ran away

Khashi: but it was at peak when i saw it

bigjimusmc: any sirens?

Khashi: yes

Khashi: police sirens

bigjimusmc: now I mean, any sirens now?

Khashi: i cant hear

Khashi: http://www.iran-press-service.com

bigjimusmc: is there light in the sky from the fires? Can yo see the sky lit up?

Khashi: i m in an Apartment

Khashi: but here is quiet

bigjimusmc: what is shiraz? (your picture)

Khashi: our tour to Shiraz in south

Khashi: they r my friends

bigjimusmc: oh

Khashi: tonight i went there to see these guys

Khashi: when it happened

bigjimusmc: were they safe?

Khashi: i couldnt meet them

bigjimusmc: could you call them?

Khashi: their house is in frontline

Khashi: Khashi: not now

bigjimusmc: can I post your comments on FreeRepublic.com?

Khashi: send them under ur name but plz mention my first name too

bigjimusmc: do you want your name or do you want me to change your name to keep you safe?

Khashi: just my first name

bigjimusmc: ok

Khashi: tell them caz I m scared

bigjimusmc: it will be exactly as you seeithere

Khashi: i sent it through ur help

Khashi: yes

Khashi: i know and i trust u

bigjimusmc: that is why i wanted to change yur name, to keep you anonymous

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/932091/posts

50 posted on 06/19/2003 8:48:29 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad)
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