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Investigator in Laci Peterson slaying says more calls were recorded
Tri-cityhearld.com ^ | June 18, 2003 | BRIAN MELLEY, Associated Press

Posted on 06/19/2003 5:31:38 AM PDT by runningbear

Investigator in Laci Peterson slaying says more calls were recorded

Investigator in Laci Peterson slaying says more calls were recorded

Copyright © 2003 AP Online
This story was published Wednesday, June 18th, 2003

By BRIAN MELLEY, Associated Press

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - An investigator who wiretapped Scott Peterson's phones said in court papers filed Wednesday that he recently discovered 176 calls that were recorded without his knowledge.

The computer-recorded calls could present a new hurdle for prosecutors as they fight defense claims of prosecutorial misconduct over other taped conversations.

Prosecutors asked Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami to review the newly discovered calls and decide whether police could listen to them for potential evidence in the case against Peterson, who is accused of killing his wife, Laci, and their unborn son.

Steven Jacobson, an investigator for the prosecution, said the calls were discovered Friday by an expert from the software company that designed the wiretap system. The two men listened to about 10 seconds of one recording to confirm that it was of an actual conversation, but did not listen to the others, he said.

"We heard a person in a Southern drawl talking to Scott Peterson in what appeared to be a business-related call," Jacobson wrote in an affidavit.

Jacobson said he had never heard that call before, and added that he was familiar with 3,858 phone calls police logged on the fertilizer salesman's home and cellular phones.

Peterson, 30, has pleaded innocent to two counts of murder and could face the death penalty if convicted in the killings of his wife and unborn son. He was arrested after their remains washed ashore in San Francisco Bay in April, near where he said he was fishing Christmas Eve when his pregnant wife vanished.

Defense lawyer Mark Geragos has asked that prosecutors be dismissed or the wiretaps tossed out because investigators listened to parts of conversations between Peterson and one of his lawyers. The eavesdropping violated attorney-client privilege, he said.

Prosecutors have said officers mistakenly listened to snippets of two of 69 conversations between Peterson and the lawyer, and one conversation with a private investigator.

Girolami has scheduled a June 26 hearing on the wiretap and other matters.

Both sides are barred by a gag order from commenting on the case. >{?

Meanwhile, the defense appealed a judge's order to unseal search warrants in the case, saying their release would ignite a "media firestorm of misinformation." ......

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Peterson defense tries to stop a `firestorm of misinformation'

Posted on Wed, Jun. 18, 2003

Peterson defense tries to stop a `firestorm of misinformation'

By the Mercury News

Saying that it will will ignite a ``media firestorm of misinformation,'' Scott Peterson's attorneys are going to appeal a judge's order to unseal search warrants in the case of his slain wife and unborn son.

Defense lawyer Mark Geragos filed his appeal with the Fifth District Court of Appeals in Fresno to keep eight search warrants from being made public next month.

Judge Roger Beauchesne ruled last week in Stanislaus County Superior Court that the documents, which are expected to contain evidence and police theories in the case, should be unsealed July 8 after a previous appellate ruling expires.

That order, however, is now on hold as the court considers the appeal. Prosecutors and lawyers for California newspapers and broadcasters, who argued to release the documents, have a week to file responses.

Peterson, 30, has pleaded innocent to two counts of murder and could face the death penalty if convicted. He was arrested after the remains of Laci Peterson and her unborn son washed ashore in San Francisco Bay in April, near where he said he was fishing Christmas Eve when his pregnant wife vanished.

Police used the search warrants to seize the fertilizer salesman's truck, boat and trailer, along with scores of items from the couple's home as they tried to solve the disappearance.

Geragos said in court papers that he wants Beauchesne's decision reversed and wants him removed from the case.

If the warrants are unsealed, Geragos said a ``media firestorm of misinformation will result'' and ``rumors and gossip will be rehashed immediately, incessantly and without recourse to Mr. Peterson receiving a fair trial.''

Geragos said prosecutors told him they want Beauchesne removed from the case, but prosecutors refused to comment, saying they would file their own court papers.

Beauchesne said there was no reason to keep the papers, which are usually made public 11 days after a search warrant has been served, secret because Peterson had been arrested. He also said the defense had not shown him evidence ......

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Peterson's lawyer files appeal to keep search warrants sealed

Article Last Updated: Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 4:18:41 AM PST

Peterson's lawyer files appeal to keep search warrants sealed

By FROM WIRE REPORTS

MODESTO -- Scott Peterson's defense is appealing a judge's order to unseal search warrants in the case of his slain wife and unborn son, saying they will ignite a "media firestorm of misinformation."

Defense lawyer Mark Geragos filed his appeal Tuesday at the 5th District Court of Appeal in Fresno to keep eight search warrants from being made public next month.

Judge Roger Beauchesne ruled Thursday in Stanislaus County Superior Court that the documents, which are expected to contain evidence and police theories in the case, should be unsealed July 8 after a previous appellate ruling expires.

That order, however, is now on hold as the court considers the appeal. Prosecutors and lawyers for California newspapers and broadcasters, who argued to release the documents, have a week to file responses.

Peterson, 30, has pleaded innocent to two counts of murder and could face the death penalty if convicted. He was arrested after the remains of Laci Peterson and her unborn son washed ashore in San Francisco Bay in April, near where he said he was fishing Christmas Eve when his pregnant wife vanished.

Police used the search warrants to seize the fertilizer salesman's truck, boat and trailer, along with scores of items from the couple's home as they tried to solve the disappearance.

Geragos said in court papers that he wants Beauchesne's decision reversed and wants him removed from the case.

If the warrants are unsealed, Geragos said a "media firestorm of misinformation will result" and "rumors and gossip will be rehashed immediately, incessantly and without recourse to Mr. Peterson receiving a fair trial."

Geragos said prosecutors told him they want Beauchesne removed from the case, but prosecutors refused to comment, saying they would file their own court papers.

Beauchesne said there was no reason to keep the papers, which .....

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Why Laci’s baby, Connor, is not an ‘it’

Commentary from the Savage Nation ;o)

Why Laci’s baby, Connor, is not an ‘it’

COMMENTARY
by Michael Savage

May 3 — “In my mind, I keep hearing Laci say to me, mom, please find me and Connor and bring us home. I am scared, and please don’t leave us out here all alone. I want to come home. Please don’t stop looking for us.” —Sharon Rocha

SHARON ROCHA said it for all of us. This is a woman whose heart is broken. But you notice she said for Connor and Laci? This is a woman who understands that a fetus at eight months is a person.

There’s a soul in there. And the ghouls in the abortion racket ought to be ashamed of themselves, particularly those of you who practice so-called late-term abortion, which is nothing more than infanticide.

Do we have the full screen of the Morris County NOW President, Mavra Stark, who said that there’s something about this that bothers me a little bit? Was it born or was it unborn? If it was unborn, she said, then I can’t see charging Peterson with a double murder.

Well, lady, let me tell you something, you need to get a life, and you need to get reeducated. If you think this is an “it,: I would invite you to watch that tape that I just played of the heartbroken grandparents over and over again. You will know it’s not an it, and maybe it will enlighten you to the fact that human life is precious, every human life is precious.

Should Laci’s unborn baby be called “it?” Absolutely not. Should Scott be tried for double homicide? Absolutely. Should the unborn be permitted to be ripped out of a womb and their skulls broken open and their brains sucked out in a procedure called late-born abortion? It was outlawed by Congress, if you remember, when Clinton was president. Both the House and the Senate said no to this gruesome, barbaric procedure.

Bill Clinton vetoed it. He catered to the abortion lobby. When this issue comes up again, I want you to make certain that your representative— I don’t care if you’re a Democrat or Republican— you have got to do the right thing for humanity, just say no to late-term abortion. Is there anything we can agree upon, or does everything have to be agenda driven? How about something being ‘human driven’? How about putting human rights ahead of agenda? Is that ever going to happen in America?

(Excerpt) Read more at tri-cityherald.com ...


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Some follow up from yesterday's wiretaps stories!!.......

Have to put this out here, for all Californians and those who think that balancing any governmental budget is continuing to raise taxes is pure stupidity. That is why Ca is putting to the voters, once signatures are gathered, and it will be done, to recall Gov Davis!As I do my search for Laci stories, I come across this and listen to those whiners in the bill mills, of how we going to pay for this or that, because we need to tax me people to death. The current one, the Death tax, it is only for the 'rich' who benefit? Give me a break! Who is rich, and what is rich? They have no clue, those rascal democrats and RHINOS!!! ;o)

Dems to push for tax increases

Dems to push for tax increases

The Sacramento Bee
(Published Thursday, June 19, 2003, 4:40 AM)

SACRAMENTO -- Assembly Democrats plan to fan out across California beginning Monday -- seven days before the new fiscal year, and with no apparent budget deal on the horizon -- to drum up public support and pressure Republicans to agree to a spending plan with tax increases.

Declaring a logjam in negotiations at the Capitol, Assembly Speaker Herb Wesson said most of the 48 Assembly Democrats will travel to Democratic and Republican districts for three days to enlist help from local leaders, business groups and others to break it.

"Nothing is happening here," Wesson said. "We're going to go out to see if we can get allies throughout the state."

Republicans immediately criticized the Wesson effort and said they will stick to their anti-tax stance.

"The Legislature should be here, working around the clock, to meet the June 30 deadline," said Peter DeMarco, spokesman for Assembly Republican leader Dave Cox of Fair Oaks. "People should expect nothing less."

Wesson said he "will be ready to come back to meet at any time" from the trip that comes during the last full week before the July 1 beginning of the new fiscal year.

Budget negotiations have been stalled for several days as Republicans continue to refuse to consider tax increases to help fill a budget shortfall expected to reach $38 billion. GOP officials, who blame Democratic Gov. Davis and the majority Democrats for the state's fiscal woes, say they will not supply the votes needed to approve a budget with tax increases.

Democrats, meanwhile, say that trying to balance the budget without tax increases will devastate state services.

1 posted on 06/19/2003 5:31:39 AM PDT by runningbear
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
Pinging......(and I added a tax me story of good ol Califa!!) ;o)
2 posted on 06/19/2003 5:32:54 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: BlondieTx; I. Ben Hurt; Lauratealeaf; RightWingMama; DreamWeaver; The Other Harry; Helen; Howlin; ..
Pinging......(and I added a tax me story of good ol Califa!!) ;o)
3 posted on 06/19/2003 5:33:24 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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The stories seem to be having Brian Melley AP to them:

More tapped Peterson phone calls found

More tapped Peterson phone calls found

By Brian Melley
Associated Press
(Published Thursday, June 19, 2003, 5:17 AM)

SACRAMENTO -- An investigator who wiretapped Scott Peterson's phones said in court papers filed Wednesday that he recently discovered 176 calls that were recorded without his knowledge.

The computer-recorded calls could present a new hurdle for prosecutors as they fight defense claims of misconduct over other taped conversations.

Prosecutors asked Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami to review the newly discovered calls and decide whether police could listen to them for potential evidence in the case against Peterson, who is accused of killing his wife, Laci, and their unborn son.

Steven Jacobson, an investigator for the prosecution, said the calls were discovered Friday by an expert from the software company that designed the wiretap system. The two men listened to about 10 seconds of one recording to confirm that it was of an actual conversation, but did not listen to the others, he said.

"We heard a person in a Southern drawl talking to Scott Peterson in what appeared to be a business-related call," Jacobson wrote in an affidavit.

Jacobson said he had never heard that call before, and added that he was familiar with 3,858 phone calls police logged on the fertilizer salesman's home and cellular phones.

Peterson, 30, has pleaded innocent to two counts of murder and could face the death penalty if convicted in the killings of his wife and unborn son. He was arrested after their remains washed ashore in San Francisco Bay in April, near where he said he was fishing Christmas Eve when his pregnant wife vanished.

Defense lawyer Mark Geragos has asked that prosecutors be dismissed or the wiretaps tossed out because investigators listened .....

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Update from the Stanislaus Court info site:

New Documents Added

Posted on Wednesday, June 18 2003 at 5:07 PM PST ----

An additional document was added to the Web site late Wednesday afternoon.

1. Request for Court Review of Wiretap Recordings Recovered From Audio Buffer

2. Gloria Allred to Defendant's Motion to Set OSC RE: Contempt of Court

Superior Court, Stanislaus County June 18, 2003
Request for Court Review of Wiretap Recordings Recovered From Audio Buffer

Superior Court, Stanislaus County June 18, 2003
Gloria Allred to Defendant's Motion to Set OSC RE: Contempt of Court

4 posted on 06/19/2003 5:42:50 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the ping RB !
5 posted on 06/19/2003 5:45:03 AM PDT by clouda
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To: runningbear; pitinkie; Jackie-O; All
This is funny. From Voodoo Scott


6 posted on 06/19/2003 5:48:27 AM PDT by clouda
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To: All
From the Modesto Bee:

More wiretap portions revealed

More wiretap portions revealed

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: June 19, 2003, 05:44:24 AM PDT

Authorities admitted in court documents Wednesday that they may have unknowingly recorded portions of up to 176 more telephone calls to and from Scott Peterson. Already under fire for recording portions of three calls between Peterson and his defense team, and now unsure what the new recordings might contain, investigators asked for a Stanislaus County Superior Court judge's guidance on what to do next.

The recordings, on two compact discs, are locked away in the meantime.

Two prominent attorneys recognized as wiretap experts said the startling discovery could pose big problems for prosecutors if they want to use wiretap evidence in the murder case. Peterson is charged in the slayings of his wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner, and could get the death penalty if found guilty.

"The defense is going to have a field day with this," said Raymond Perini, a veteran New York attorney who monitored dozens of wiretaps as a Long Island prosecutor.

Lead defense attorney Mark Geragos previously alleged "grave prosecutorial misconduct" in the interception of parts of 71 calls between Peterson and his defense team. Prosecutors claim that they inadvertently recorded portions of three of those calls, and shut off the recording as soon as they realized the nature of the calls.

According to court documents, wiretap expert Kevin Clements of Lincoln, Neb., discovered the new recordings Friday while helping an investigator "with some technical problems."

"It's a complex business," Clements said Wednesday evening in a telephone interview. Asked if authorities elsewhere have overlooked conversations recorded by wiretaps, he said, "I wouldn't say it's necessarily unique to this case. I can't cite cases for you, but it's not an uncommon thing."

Clements declined to comment further, citing a gag order in the high-profile Peterson case.

The wiretap problem arose from a "peculiarity" in AT&T Wireless technology, Clements wrote in one of the court documents. The apparent defect allows recording of calls without notifying agents who are doing the monitoring, Clements explained.

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An FYI Story for all ebayers: scam alert ((I know there are several Peterson threads freepers))...'o)

Deal that's 'too good' is really too bad for buyer

7 posted on 06/19/2003 5:57:03 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: clouda
Very good C.... ;o)


8 posted on 06/19/2003 6:00:33 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
4000 calls? No wonder he wasn't out looking for Laci; he couldn't have had time.
9 posted on 06/19/2003 6:21:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: clouda
Nice..clouda. I think that site is a hoot!! Especially, the Wizard of Oz portrayal of Jackie Peterson. LOL. PERFECT!
10 posted on 06/19/2003 6:22:04 AM PDT by melodie
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To: clouda
Thanks clouda! ROFLMBO!! I have to go check out the latest at voodo!
11 posted on 06/19/2003 7:06:11 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
Sure will be happy when we can start watching this circus on court TV.Thats when truth will come out and scaught just might get a snotty nose from crying real tears for himself
12 posted on 06/19/2003 7:14:24 AM PDT by fiesti (lets get on with the show)
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To: fiesti
Hi fiesti, long time no see! I really hope MG doesn't ask for a delay for the pre-trial, I'm on vacation then and I'm looking foreward to watching the trial! Do you think Socio-Snotty has REAL tears in him?
13 posted on 06/19/2003 8:04:48 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear; clouda; Jackie-O
Morning everyone.
clouda...thanks for the link....it's a riot!

Jackie.... The "crying, dabbing a tear" act was pathetic. I'm not sure he's capable of real emotion.
14 posted on 06/19/2003 8:21:40 AM PDT by Wednesday's Child
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To: clouda
Brilliant post!! And there is no way that scum was crying. He probably is able to keep his eyes open when he sneezes if that was crying!
15 posted on 06/19/2003 8:59:22 AM PDT by Neenah ("It's always something ! ")
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To: Jackie-O
I really hope MG doesn't ask for a delay for the pre-trial

I heard on LKL and Greta that the Prosecution has asked for the July date to be pushed back and the Defense agreed.

16 posted on 06/19/2003 9:01:56 AM PDT by Neenah ("It's always something ! ")
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To: runningbear
Thanks, RB!
17 posted on 06/19/2003 9:05:09 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: clouda
LOL
18 posted on 06/19/2003 9:08:12 AM PDT by pitinkie
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An investigator who wiretapped Scott Peterson's phones said in court papers filed Wednesday that he recently discovered 176 calls that were recorded without his knowledge.

I don't get it. I thought they had authority to tap all his phones. Was there a time frame set on the tapping, and these 176 came before or after the dates set forth on the tapping order? Why did the investigator say the were recorded without his knowledge?

19 posted on 06/19/2003 10:39:07 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the Ebay scam story. I buy stuff on Ebay all the time; it's good to be careful.
20 posted on 06/19/2003 10:54:05 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Sandylapper
Goodmorning Runningbear,Sandylapper,Jackie-O,All.

From what I can gather ATT software has a defect which allowed it to record without notifiying agents who are doing the monitoring. These 176 calls were captured in "audio buffers". The poblem is without the agents knowing about these calls then the agents are not doing the full task ordered by the court. This problem was found, when Keven Clements of Lincon,Nev.,discovered the new recordings Friday while helping investigators with some technical problems. These recordings are stored on two compact discs and are locked away.
21 posted on 06/19/2003 11:10:47 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay; STOCKHRSE
I meant to include you in my post.(smiling)
22 posted on 06/19/2003 11:16:19 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
Well why would it be Prosecutorial misconduct if the Prosecutors and their Investigators didn't KNOW it was happening? Sounds more like a technical glitch that can't be blamed on anyone, to me. It certainly seems there was no deliberate ANYTHING. btw Is Geragos looking to have everybody but himself thrown off the case? LOL He looks just plain stoopid desperate.
23 posted on 06/19/2003 11:23:41 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I am getting this information from Modbee.com. "Pertinent, nonpertinent, and privileged information might be containted,"DA Brazelton wrote in a request form the court. Judges who issue secret warrants lay out guidelines agents must follow....when they intercept "privilieged" calls between subject and his attorney, they must "mininize"or turn OFF the recordings. "Failure to mininize can be a fatal defect",said Perini, who is preparing unrelated litigation on wiretaps techology. In other words,a judge can throw out parts or all of the evidence.
24 posted on 06/19/2003 11:38:15 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Howlin
I think that someone did the math, and it comes out if not sleeping, a call every ten mins....
25 posted on 06/19/2003 12:05:30 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Just listening to the radio, there was something that made me think of SP. The news story was about a woman whose husband had poisoned her ice cream with vicodan.

The woman tasted the bitterness in the ice cream and called 911, so she was saved. And the husband was arrested, and his motive was apparently that she wanted him to do the chores and he didn't want to.

And I wish those (for example on the courttv forum) who say that an affair or being in debt are no reasons to kill someone could read things like that.

Ha! Murder can be done for the most insignificant reason.

26 posted on 06/19/2003 1:34:03 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: runningbear
Just found a link on FR to that story, though the article doesn't say he meant to kill her, unlike the account from the radio a while ago.

Man Accused Of Drugging Wife To Stop Her Nagging

27 posted on 06/19/2003 1:44:30 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: runningbear; texasbluebell; Canadian Outrage; MaggieMay; Devil_Anse; Sandylapper; Jackie-O; ...
National Enquirer article courtesy of RIckamorti from Purgatory forum:

LACI'S MURDER: IT WAS MISTAKEN IDENTITY

BY: David Thompson, Lynn Allison, and Dawna Kaufman

pictures: One of a prison yard and a sheild with Aryan Nations Symbol

synopsis

Laci's brutal murder was a tragic case of mistaken identity, according to the latest theory of her husbands defense team.

While prosecutors insist that the pregnant 27 year old teacher was killed by her husband Scott Peterson, the defense is now speculating she was really an unintended victim caught up in a vendetta by white supremacists against the family of another California man named Scott Peterson.

That theory has outraged Laci's loved ones. "It looks like Scott's attorneys are really clutching at straws," Laci's devoted dad Dennis Rocha tells Globe. "Its totally outrageous."

But sources close to the defense team fighting to save 30-year old Scott from a lethal injection say a worker at a California prison overheard a furious argument between two inmate members of the Ayran Nations- one of whom coincidentally has a cousin named Scott Peterson.

According to the prison employee, one of the inmates told the other, "I'm going to deal with you- and your family isn't going to be safe either."

A source close to the defense team calls the prison employee a "very credible" witness.

"He says the inmate was telling the cousin of the other Scott Peterson that he knew people on the outside who could get to him and his family," explains the source. "That was before Laci disappeared and the prison employee didn't pay much attention to it.

"But after the news broke, the prisoners were watching TV and the employee says he heard the one inmate tell the other, "See, we got you. We got her."

The inmate who was threatened had a girlfriend staying with his cousin Scott, so now defense investigators are striving to make the connection.

"The thugs on the outside may have staked out the wrong house and unwittingly mistook Laci for the inmate's girlfriend, the source explains. "These are the kind of people who act first and ask questions later, so Laci wouldn't have stood a chance."

Former FBI agent Ted Gunderson notes that hitmen sometimes do murder the wrong person.

"It can be something as simple as someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time or having a similar name," Gunderson said. "The Ayran Nation has tentacles inside and outside the prison system and their killers are frequently hopped up on drugs, which doesn't make for careful assassins."

Globe recently detailed a case in which two Houston women named Mary Morris were killed in their cars just days apart.

"There's a strong belief that the assassin got the wrong one in that case, then found the one he originally meant to kill and killed her too," says Gunderson.

And Mark Hamm, a criminolgy professor at Indiana State University, tells Globe that bloodthirsty white supremacy groups are growing"by leaps and bounds" behind bars.

"We believe that 10 percent of the prison population is affiliated with racist, hate gangs like the Aryan Nations" says Hamm. "They are extremely violent group of people capable of plotting a vendetta against anyone they consider they enemy."

Scott's attorneys have also theorized that Laci, who went missing from home Dec.23, was killed by a member of a twisted satanic cult. But Laci's family members are not buying either of those scenatios.

"They're going to any lengths possible so the finger isn't pointed at Scott," says Rocha. "The whole idea of an Aryan Nations vendetta is totally ridiculous."

28 posted on 06/19/2003 4:58:24 PM PDT by Velveeta
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OOOPS!!!
Globe Article NOT Enquirer...sorry about that
29 posted on 06/19/2003 5:01:33 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
GOD HELP US!! Are we gonna be peppered with bullsh-t like this???? This is beyond ludicrous.
30 posted on 06/19/2003 5:05:15 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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On a related subject, have you heard anything lately about Bruce Koklich? 1st trial, where he was accused of killing his wife, was a hung jury. Prosecution said at the time they intended to try him again. Any news about a new trial date, and any news of what this guy has been up to lately-did he go back to his real estate business?
31 posted on 06/19/2003 5:49:36 PM PDT by uvular
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To: Velveeta; oceanperch; MaggieMay; cherry; All
What a convoluted mess! I don't mean just the NE story; I'm talking about the "just found" 176 taped messages, as well. Oh, well, we can all just wait for the pre-trial!
32 posted on 06/19/2003 5:50:15 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Canadian Outrage
Wait. Soon we'll hear about the little green men who may have taken her.
33 posted on 06/19/2003 6:06:20 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Sandylapper
The pretrial should be somethin'.
34 posted on 06/19/2003 6:07:56 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: vikingchick
Check out post #28. LMBO!!!!
35 posted on 06/19/2003 6:14:42 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Velveeta
What I don't understand is if everybody on the defense team is gagged, when/who leaked this new story to NE?
36 posted on 06/19/2003 6:18:03 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Well at least that 176 tapes was a technical glitch. Geragos will try to make something out of it but it hasn't been listened to by either side yet. How's he gonna say that was Prosecutor misconduct when the Prosecutor didn't know about the calls??? He'll try tho. Have you noticed that he (Geragos) jumps from one thing to the next to site "grave misconduct". P-U-K-E!! This last theory about mistaken identity/Arayan's takes the cake.
37 posted on 06/19/2003 6:26:19 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Sandylapper
Yeah THAT too - the leak I mean!!! ****GROAN*****
38 posted on 06/19/2003 6:29:34 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: uvular
Usually Uvie, if the Prosecution gets a hung jury, you can COUNT ON IT that they will re-try the case. eg. Menendez brothers.
39 posted on 06/19/2003 6:31:50 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Velveeta
>>"While prosecutors insist that the pregnant 27 year old teacher was killed by her husband Scott Peterson, the defense is now speculating she was really an unintended victim caught up in a vendetta by white supremacists against the family of another California man named Scott Peterson">>

Yeah, right Geragos, after that Peterson can't stand to be equated as THAT scott peterson.... lol...

Thanks Velveeta for posting it... ;o)

40 posted on 06/19/2003 6:37:48 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Your right CO.... my goodness, what will he think of next?
41 posted on 06/19/2003 6:38:18 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Velveeta
ET come home! ;o)
42 posted on 06/19/2003 6:38:54 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: texasbluebell
Thanks, reminds me of that crime story on A&E about the gal who was poisoned, and died. They didn't know, until they found arsnic in the cola.....
43 posted on 06/19/2003 6:41:58 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Didn't you just know that when Geragos entered the picture we would be watching a circus? The California Bar Association ought to have red faces about now. He's a HUGE embarassment!!
44 posted on 06/19/2003 6:42:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Sandylapper
"sources close to the defense team"

Wives, limo drivers, pool boys?
45 posted on 06/19/2003 6:45:12 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Canadian Outrage
LOL.. but they won't as long as Bill Lockyear and all the cohort democrats run this state. Sickening...

the word is on the recall, if it is going down for the gov, which is very high at last poll, Davis may resign, and appoint Cruz Bustamante' as Gov, and the rats still hold the strangehold on the budget... They are purely nut cases up in the Dome!!!!! So, I don't think the trial attorneys here in califa will oust Geragos....

46 posted on 06/19/2003 6:46:02 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Velveeta
You don't mean it!! LOL What a surprise huh? NOT
47 posted on 06/19/2003 6:47:34 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage; Jackie-O; clouda; Velveeta; Devil_Anse; All
Jackie: Your statement yesterday, oh boy, you nailed it!!!


Luster


Scott

48 posted on 06/19/2003 6:57:15 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Well I couldn't believe that California would vote Davis back in last time. That was a shock to me. After the energy fiasco and other assorted financial irregularities. I mean the guy is pure scum as are All Democraps. Isn't Socialism fun??? Best way to ruin a country, state or Province. Socialists are just commie b's. They don't know anything but tax and spend and promise more "services". That party survives and thrives on keeping a good portion of the population poor and dependant on "services"!! California's political leaders on the Dem side need a total housecleaning as do we in Ottawa. Central Canada (Ontario and Quebec) which have the bulk of the seats also have all the Assh-les. In my opinion and in a fast growing number of people in the West, B.C. and Alberta should just separate. We have all the resources and entrepeneurs we need to prosper. I mean, can you believe that any rational person would vote for something like Chretien?? He can't even put a coherent english sentence together.
49 posted on 06/19/2003 6:57:38 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
yes, I can believe anything now adays....lol... Dumb down education did it!!
50 posted on 06/19/2003 7:02:58 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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