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PRAISE NEW JERSEY: Bill to ban smoking is filtered some more. Assembly sponsor: It's now toothless
nj.com ^ | 06-17-03 | DAVID KINNEY

Posted on 06/30/2003 9:04:12 AM PDT by SheLion

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It began as a New York City-style push to ban smoking in virtually every public place in New Jersey: bars, restaurants, museums, office buildings, ballparks.

But that was before the casinos, restaurant operators, bar owners, cigarette makers and their lobbyists showed up in force.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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1 posted on 06/30/2003 9:04:13 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; Madame Dufarge; ...
Puff!
2 posted on 06/30/2003 9:04:45 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
At least some people in NJ are showing a little common sense and some backbone.
I've got to say that the comment about the "level playing field" makes my blood boil.
3 posted on 06/30/2003 9:08:25 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
At least some people in NJ are showing a little common sense and some backbone.

Hey, Joe!

Oh I know it.......Level Playing Field my arse.

I was told that the smoking ban for Denver was shot down too. Don't tell me that people are starting to wake up?

4 posted on 06/30/2003 9:09:48 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Isn't NJ the cancer capital of the country? Of course they should be allowed to smoke. Now I will jump into my flame proof and smoke proof suit!
5 posted on 06/30/2003 9:11:55 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: SheLion
Isn't tomorrow the day that the entire state of Florida goes smokefree in bars and restaurants? Has there been any softening of that situation?

Michael

6 posted on 06/30/2003 9:15:42 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: SheLion
Great post bump !
7 posted on 06/30/2003 9:17:48 AM PDT by jimt
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To: SheLion
At last. Someone says, keep your fat azz out of my private business to the litte creepy combover crew.
8 posted on 06/30/2003 9:19:46 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Read Buddy's, (the labrador retriever), new book about the Clintons, "Living Hell")
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To: Wright is right!
Isn't tomorrow the day that the entire state of Florida goes smokefree in bars and restaurants?

Yes, it is and no there hasn't been any softening of the situation.
Florida just lost some important tourism bucks, IMO.

9 posted on 06/30/2003 9:20:01 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Wright is right!
Isn't tomorrow the day that the entire state of Florida goes smokefree in bars and restaurants? Has there been any softening of that situation?

No softening. None whatsoever. I believe it's a go.


10 posted on 06/30/2003 9:20:11 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
The New Jersey Restaurant Association led the fight against the bill yesterday, and the group brought to the hearing a Manhattan restaurateur struggling with the ban New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg signed into law this year.

At least they have a restaurant association that did sell them out like what happened in Delaware.

Restaurant Association officials said they would support a ban only if it is a "level playing field" covering the entire state and all establishments, including casinos, small bars and social clubs.

I guess I spoke too soon.

I'm still waiting for one of these numskulls to explain this too me.

When the casinos and tavern owners sought to amend the ban in Delaware to permit smoking the Restaurant Association went nuclear. And among the restaurants protesting the loudest are the ones that are actually no more than glorified bars with restaurants licenses so they can remain open on Sunday for the lucrative sports watching crowd.

They are the same ones screaming against letting the taverns and taprooms open on sunday also.

I hate hypocrites.

11 posted on 06/30/2003 9:21:27 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: ladyjane
Actually I think Delaware gets that title - but considering Delaware is not much more than a NJ suburb in some areas......................
12 posted on 06/30/2003 9:24:38 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: Just another Joe
Well, at least Delaware will continue hurting as people continue to go to the Atlantic City casinos instead of coming to Delaware - at least for another year, I ould guess.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.
13 posted on 06/30/2003 9:26:28 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: Gabz
I can't understand it either. As far as I can tell this 'level playing field' translates to 'let's all lose money together'.
14 posted on 06/30/2003 9:34:49 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: CaptRon
That's as good a definition as any, I guess.
15 posted on 06/30/2003 9:35:49 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: SheLion
Howdy ! I hope everything is going well for you, FRiend.

Puff the Magic Dragon.....


16 posted on 06/30/2003 9:42:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Gabz; ladyjane
I think Kentucky has the highest rate of lung cancer
17 posted on 06/30/2003 9:43:01 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: ladyjane
Jump into your bubble and hide out from car exhaust and Cow Farts!
Ops4 God BLess America!
18 posted on 06/30/2003 9:50:09 AM PDT by OPS4
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To: freeperfromnj
I think Kentucky has the highest rate of lung cancer

Kentucky also has a large coal mining industry.
You are making an incorrect assumption.
Tobacco and smoking may be a contributive cause of lung cancer, but it is not the sole cause.

Medical research has shown a great number of agents that contribute to cancer, heart disease, etc., some proven, some suspected.
Tobacco is only one factor out of thousands.

19 posted on 06/30/2003 9:53:58 AM PDT by Drammach
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20 posted on 06/30/2003 9:58:14 AM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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