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1 posted on 07/01/2003 7:14:28 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
It's time for justice!
2 posted on 07/01/2003 7:16:06 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Theodore R.
Do I hear the sounds of whiney crybabies? Again?
3 posted on 07/01/2003 7:16:25 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Theodore R.
Whiskey for the men, beer for the horses.
4 posted on 07/01/2003 7:25:05 AM PDT by MattinNJ (One fine, beautiful, sunny day in Havana, I will take a pi$$ on Castro's grave.)
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To: Theodore R.
Translation follows:

DemocRats: We drew the district lines to favor US when we were in power. It's not fair to redraw them to favor YOU when you are in power.
5 posted on 07/01/2003 7:25:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Theodore R.
Democrats complaining that Republicans are acting as "puppets" ought to first hide the strings attached to their sleeves, and the wires attached to their mouths, by the KLINTONS. . . .

It is true that someone willing to do an act of evil will often ACCUSE OTHERS of the same thing, this is because they cant understand that not everyone thinks as they do. . .

Dummycrats all.
7 posted on 07/01/2003 7:31:18 AM PDT by Roughneck (Get the U.N. out of the U.S, and get the U.S. out of the U.N.)
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To: Theodore R.
P.S. We have a similar problem in Tennessee except in reverse. For federal offices we overwhelmingly elect Republicans (6 of 9 Representaives and both Senators are Republicans) but the state legislature is in the death grip of the Rats and their carefully gerrymandered districts.
8 posted on 07/01/2003 7:31:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Theodore R.
"...I think there'll be 21 votes for it," said Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, who presides over the Senate."

Demonrats across the country are going to put a lot of pressure on those two democrat Senators!

9 posted on 07/01/2003 7:32:19 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
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To: Pubbie; JohnnyZ; Nathaniel Fischer; AuH2ORepublican; LdSentinal; Kuksool; William Creel; ...
TX redistricting *ping*
10 posted on 07/01/2003 7:32:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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To: Theodore R.
The Fox TV channel in Dallas last night had a report on the first day's session, and devoted the entire report to Dims whining.

I was especially amused to here one Rep. Jose (or whatever) Villareal of San Antonio say "What are we doing here? The voters have already spoken."
Then he said "We had a hearing in San Antonio and 400 people showed up to testify against redistricting."
(Are there only 400 voters in SA? Did they hold elections at those hearings? Were only registered voters allowed to speak?)

And here I thought when he said "The voters have spoken" he was referring to the fact that nearly 60% of Texas voters vote Republican, and there hasn't been a statewide Dim majority since 1990!
12 posted on 07/01/2003 7:47:58 AM PDT by Redbob
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""This week is independence week, and we're going to find out this week whether the Texas Legislature is still independent from the partisans in Washington, D.C.," Rep. Jim Dunnam of Waco, House Democratic Caucus leader, said just before Monday's special session started."

Snicker, snicker. It's nice to see the Pubs kick some butt for a change.
17 posted on 07/01/2003 8:22:54 AM PDT by TheDon ( It is as difficult to provoke the United States as it is to survive its eventual and tardy response)
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To: Theodore R.
wait isn't the article wrong, in special session it requires a mere majority to bring an issue to vote?
18 posted on 07/01/2003 8:46:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Theodore R.
Only a few people out of hundreds at the hearings spoke in favor of it, the Democrats said. New districts that Republicans want would hurt minority and rural voters, said Rep. Garnet Coleman, D-Houston. We have a clear message for Tom DeLay," Coleman said. "Stop lying about what you're trying to do."

Garnet Coleman? Garnet always seemed like a little weiner. I knew Garnet's family when I was in high school. A private school. I don't think Garnet or any of his siblings ever saw the inside of a public school. His dad, John B. Coleman, was a doctor (Steve Forbes said Dr. Coleman did abortions) and a real mover and shaker in Houston politics. Who became very wealthy from various businesses he was involved in. They lived in a big house of North MacGregor. Nice place. Garnet was a rich kid. By the way, his own kids go to private schools too. At least when Garnet is not assaulting the teacher.

Garnet makes some money selling ice cream at Hobby Airport (Peacole Ice Cream) along with ex houston city councilman John Peavy and with his consulting firm (Coleman Strategies) which appears to make some of it's money by promoting Democratic campaigns. Garnet isn't doing bad. He has a new house he built in 2002. 4000+ sq. ft. But what's odd is that it's only on the tax rolls for $141,170. Gee, that's low. With a pool too. And that's over in the medical center area. Why, Garnet's neighbor is selling his house which is nearly 40 years older and 1,000 sq. ft. smaller for $389,000. Garnet sure has a good deal on his taxes! How does he do it???

Garnet has a problem with redistricting? I bet he does!

19 posted on 07/01/2003 8:52:38 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sorry, but this tag line has been blocked by the FTC "do not tag" list!)
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To: Theodore R.
Thanks for posting this.

Here is The Dallas Morning News report this morning:


Partisan shouting breaks out on first day of special session

In Austin, tensions run high over redistricting

07/01/2003

By WAYNE SLATER and GROMER JEFFERS JR. / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Amid high stakes and hard feelings, lawmakers on both sides of a bitter partisan divide clashed Monday as the Legislature opened its special session to redraw the state's congressional districts.

A shouting match erupted at a House hearing where Republicans blocked an effort by outnumbered Democrats to derail the session. And on the Capitol steps, Democrats denounced the effort as a "power grab" by U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay to boost GOP numbers in Congress.

Republicans defended the redistricting session called by Gov. Rick Perry, saying they were redoing generations of partisan gerrymandering to reflect rising GOP strength in Texas.

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"My objective," declared Rep. Phil King, R-Weatherford, "is to send four or five Republicans, in addition to what we have, to Washington to help President Bush with his agenda."

The partisan fireworks Monday underscored deeply held feelings as Democrats fight to hold a 17-15 advantage in Congress and the GOP – at the behest of Mr. DeLay and the White House – presses for a new map that would seal Republican domination of Texas politics.

"This week is independence week, and we're going to find out this week whether the Texas Legislature is still independent from the partisans in Washington, D.C.," said Rep. Jim Dunnam, D-Waco and leader of the House Democratic Caucus.

Although House Democrats were at the heart of the heated debate Monday, they acknowledged that the outcome probably would be decided in the 31-member Senate.

At least two Democratic senators served notice that they might vote with the Republican majority if they felt the new boundaries were fair and their constituents were well served.

Sen. Ken Armbrister, D-Victoria, said he wants Republican congressional leaders to assure more funding for trauma care, public education and highways.

Sen. Frank Madla, D-San Antonio, said that he's keeping an open mind and that he hadn't forgotten how Democratic mapmakers did him no favors in 1991 when they trimmed the number of Hispanic voters in his district to favor a colleague.

"I've not made up my mind," he said. "I'm praying on the issue."

Sen. Eddie Lucio, D-Brownville, who had been considered a possible swing vote, said he had no intention of voting with the Republicans to take up redistricting.

Perry called session

Mr. Perry called the 30-day special session on redistricting after lawmakers failed to pass a new map during the regular session that ended June 2. Rather than vote on the issue, 51 House Democrats fled to Ardmore, Okla., to block a quorum and halt debate.

Democrats said Monday that they're not likely to repeat the walkout but signaled that emotions were still running high.

A routine opening-day resolution that directs the chamber's speaker to dispatch a delegation of state representatives to notify the governor and the Senate that the House is ready to do business was scuttled when some Democrats objected.

Rep. Rick Noriega, D-Houston, complained about a hastily announced set of House committee hearings, saying they were more cosmetic than serious efforts to enlist public testimony.

Speaker Pro Tem Sylvester Turner of Houston, a Democratic ally of the House GOP leadership, withdrew his resolution in the face of a withering show of Democratic discontent.

Speaker Tom Craddick, R-Midland, said it was just a formality, anyway. "I think the Senate probably knows we're here, and so does the governor," he said.

The House Redistricting Committee hearing erupted into a raucous exchange between Rep. Richard Raymond, D-Laredo, and Robert Talton, R-Pasadena.

Rising tension at one point prompted committee chairman Joe Crabb, R-Atascocita, to recess the committee and restore order.

But Mr. Raymond and Mr. Talton clashed again once the hearing resumed.

"I know how to yell, too, Robert," Mr. Raymond shouted.

"That's OK, but you don't get your facts right," replied Mr. Talton.

Their voices rising, Mr. Talton called Mr. Raymond a liar.

"Mr. Chairman, I don't have to listen to some member sit here and call me a liar," Mr. Raymond shouted. "Why don't you get after him?"

Mr. Crabb scolded both members. "I'm going to admonish both of you," he said. "Do you both understand?"

Committee actions

Amid the testy exchanges, the committee did conduct business.

Led by Mr. Crabb, the committee rejected an effort by Democrats to adjourn the House Redistricting Committee until transcripts from the field hearings around the state were made available to members.

The committee also nixed a move to adjourn the committee and go home based on the overwhelming public sentiment against changing district maps expressed at the hearings.

Mr. King said he expected to file a redistricting map with the committee on Tuesday.

Rep. Dianne White Delisi, R-Temple, is also expected to file a plan.

Mr. King said his efforts were delayed by last week's Supreme Court case on redistricting that could affect how minority districts are drawn.

He also wanted to mitigate his original proposal's impact on Travis County. That plan split the county in four sections.

"We're trying to respond to the concerns we heard during the hearing process," Mr. King said. "If it will help pass the bill, I'm going to try to reduce that to two or three cuts."

Testimony on the redistricting bill is expected to be heard in a House committee this week, with full House debate by next week.

Usually, the Legislature shifts state and congressional district lines every 10 years based on population changes from the latest census. In 2001, lawmakers could not agree on how to do that, so federal judges drew a map.

Staff writer Robert T. Garrett in Austin contributed to this report.

E-mail wslater@dallasnews.com

or gjeffers@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/tsw/stories/070103dntexremap.3f7b4.html

23 posted on 07/01/2003 9:15:03 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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Republican House Speaker Tom Craddick ordered state law officers to find and arrest them, but they had crossed the state line and were out of reach of Texas troopers.

Several of those Democrats — known as the Killer Chicken Ds — said they will continue to fight redistricting but said they are looking to the Senate Democrats to block the bill in the special session.

‘Democrats über alles’ = ‘Democrats over everything’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/924411/posts?page=17#17


24 posted on 07/01/2003 9:19:59 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Theodore R.
It’s nice to see these things happening to Democrats …

In Maryland, the Democrats use re-districting every ten years to quash any resurgence of Republican strength that might have accumulated. Pockets of Republican strength are usually diluted by dispersal throughout a few Democrat districts.

29 posted on 07/02/2003 4:06:40 AM PDT by bimbo
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