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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; steelie; Liz; EBUCK; SierraWasp; Miss Marple; BOBTHENAILER; Ragtime Cowgirl
You and the other full poster naggers need to keep nagging at all of us about posting the full article unless it is a LA Slimes article or Washington Compost Article.

When our enemies erase the files on their servers, and we have no full documentation of what was said or done. We can't prove the dirty tricks and tactics they were up to.

I found a lot of enviral whacko stuff before and after the forest fires in Oregon/California last year. A lot of that stuff just disappeared from their sites/servers after I posted how they set up the fire zones with their policies.

It took a few months for that to happen. On another issue with the salmon kill on the Lower Klamath last year, I posted on another site that the water flows from the State on the Trinity that showed that instead of water being cut by the evil GW, the Friday/Saturday/Sunday before the fish kill showed that there had been a big increase in flows to allow the enviral white water rats to rent more canoes and rafts for the weekend. The fish in the ocean thought the winter rains had started and came into the lower Klamath. When the flows dropped, the fish were caught in low water and died.

That entire data disappeared from the state of California's River Flow sites and never appeared. They claim that an error lost the data.

When Cruz Busta Your Wallets was exposed to be a Hispanic Fascist with connections to a couple of the worse brown hate groups in California, I warned people that the data would disappear. Sure enough it did. However, some freepers had saved it, and it ended up hurting the brown racist Cruz Busta Your Wallets.

Keep nagging us to post the full articles. If we do and the rats pull/erase the articles, we still have them.

It will get really nasty with the lies from the left before the election is over in 2000. If their lies/tactics are posted in full on Free Republic, they can't remove those files from FR's server.
50 posted on 10/03/2003 8:02:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (W. Clark, "If Karl Rove returned my phone calls, I could have run as a Republican!")
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To: Grampa Dave
You and the other full poster naggers...

I don't nag! I remind, preach, teach, plague, upbraid, prod, annoy, badger,scold, berate, bother, chivy, needle, carp, noodge and pester but I never nag!

51 posted on 10/03/2003 8:16:27 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The universe runs through the complex interweaving of energy, matter, and enlightened self interest.)
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To: Grampa Dave

There is no denying that the press followed talking points re. the war - a script detached from reality, that didn't match the facts on the ground in Iraq.

The DNC wrote their script BEFORE the war ever started, according to Doug Thompson's own claim - with quotes. Every Senate Democrat  signed on, though some reluctantly?

Undermining our nation during war time is a serious offense. The people have a right to know more about this story, Mr. Thompson, and the major American Party and Press who conspired to deceive the world, to willfully weaken America on the world stage and endanger our troops just to bring down a President.

Please tell us, Mr. Thompson, who gave you this story and are they reliable? In hindsight, we know the PRESS and the Democrats DID follow these talking points.

The article was written in January, before we ever marched to Baghdad.


The TRUE Capitol Hill Blue story the PRESS IGNORED:'Dems plan to undermine America to beat Bush'
FR - thru Capitol Hill Blue ^ | January 6, 2003 | DOUG THOMPSON

Democrats plan to undermine public confidence in President George W. Bush by challenging his credibility and raising doubts about America, sources within the party tell Capitol Hill Blue.

A multi-pronged attack against Republicans and the President will focus not only on economic issues, but question American values, raise doubts about how this country is viewed by other nations and question the patriotism of Bush and his party.

The extensive campaign, developed by senior Democratic consultants and party leaders, was launched last week with attacks on the Bush economic plan by Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Richard Gephardt.

In coming weeks, Democratic elected officials will question the President’s intentions on the pending war with Iraq. Writers and broadcasters friendly to the Democratic cause have already been provided talking points suggesting the war is about oil, not terrorism. “The talking points were developed before the end of last year and sent out to operatives and friendly media,” one Democratic consultant confided. “No Democratic member of Congress will question the President’s patriotism openly but we will use the media and other surrogates to raise doubts.”

Capitol Hill Blue obtained a copy of the talking points when the Democratic National Committee sent them to a news outlet recently acquired by CHB’s parent company. The talking points outline a strategy to raise public doubts of the President’s real intentions, including: --Saying the war is about oil and will be fought to benefit oil companies that have long supported Bush and the Republican party;

--Claiming the Bush administration has “manufactured” evidence against Saddam Hussein and used that evidence to encourage Britain and other allies to join the American fight against Iraq;

--Suggesting a wartime economy is the only way the administration can revive the country’s lagging economic situation.

“It is clear that the current approval ratings of the administration are tied directly to strong American feelings toward traditional values,” the talking points say. “To counter this, doubt must be raised as to America’s true position within the world community and the true intent of the Bush administration in waging war.”

Some Democrats admit privately they are uneasy with the party strategy to undermine American values in an attempt to get Bush.

“My boss doesn’t want anything to do with it,” one senior Senate aide told Capitol Hill Blue on Monday. “You don’t undermine this country to win elections.” Others, however, are willing to try anything to put the White House and Congress back under Democratic control. “The real war isn’t in Iraq,” one Democratic consultant said. “It’s right here at home, at the ballot box in 2004.”

Among the other points Democrats hope to make in the coming weeks:

--Both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are controlled by oil and defense industry special interest groups.

--The war on terrorism is a failure because Osama bin Laden is still at large.

--America is unprepared for another terrorist attack because of White House preoccupation with Iraq. --War will increase the country’s economic woes. --Bush will be forced to raise taxes to finance the war.

“It’s time to take the battle to the people and make them understand just how dangerous George W. Bush’s policies are to the future of America,” the talking points conclude.

Democratic sources say the talking points were developed by Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe, former Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, Senate Majority Leader Daschle and former House Democratic Leader Gephardt.

“This is a classic, Jim Carville, scorched earth campaign,” crows one DNC staffer. “Take no prisoners. That’s how you win elections.” Democratic party spokesmen would not return phone calls seeking comment on this report.

© Copyright 2003 Capitol Hill Blue


53 posted on 10/03/2003 8:21:16 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (THE PRESIDENT: Bernie, you're a good man. MR. KERICK: Thank you, Mr. President. WH, 10/3)
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To: Grampa Dave
It will get really nasty with the lies from the left before the election is over in 2000. If their lies/tactics are posted in full on Free Republic, they can't remove those files from FR's server.

The Orwellian press is daily held to the fire by FreeRepublic truth seekers.

We don't forget, we won't countenance lies and we relish the opportunity to expose the hypocrisy.

54 posted on 10/03/2003 9:46:26 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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