French secret service 'kept CIA in the dark over Iraq and uranium'

The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 07/14/03 | Michael Smith

[Mind-numbed Robot]

I suspect that tools such as the Clintons, Schroeder, Chirac, Annan, McAuliffe and company (aka the 'Rats), former KGB operatives (but I repeat myself), ad nauseum, are beholden to the same masters.

If I may offer a thought that enforces Jim's position while perhaps answering your question, Imal.

Those you list, Imal, are part of the second tier, the operatives. Those you wonder about, the masters behind the scenes pulling the strings, are the secular Gods of the left and their ideology, their religion. They are not people, they are ideas. All come together under that big tent. All pursue the same goals, use the same methods, and think the same way. Their only outward commonality is their hatred of America but their true master is the religion of secular control.

We all know their predilection to projection, casting their own evil onto others. That was what was happening in the invention by Hillary, et al., of the vast right wing conspiracy. They are consumed with their vast left wing conspiracy so they reflexively see the mirror image in their environment.

They are the embodiment of the worst of man in his natural state. As Jim said, they are the anti-Christ, but they are also anti-goodness of man in his natural state. (Man is both good and bad in his natural state.)

I contrast that to man's spiritual state, also a natural state but one that transcends the physical. There has been much speculation as to why the Arab world, and much of the rest of the world for that matter, hates us. It is not because of our power, our material success, or our form of government. It is our values! Our values are diametrically opposed to theirs. We value freedom, we value God, we value moral and ethical behavior. We hold up a mirror into which they must gaze. That is like holding the cross up to a vampire.

I know this needs to be fleshed out but it is getting too long for this thread already so I will stop.

I don't think Pat Buchanan fits this description. I just think his anger and ambition have led him into the useful idiot role.

[FreeReign]

The democrats have a habit of not only working with this country's enemies, but treating Republicans as the enemy. I don't know what has happened to this party.

It hasn't been the same since 1963.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Some of the Media may have a problem:

IRAQ: A Question Of Trust - The CIA's Tenet takes the fall for a flawed claim......

[FreeReign]

Read any Rockwell/Buchanan/Rainmondo/Paleo/Anarchist thread. They all preach the same anti-Bush, anti-Republican, anti-war, pro-terror message. And they're damn quick to jump on the anti-Bush bandwagon at the slightest drop of any misinformation put out by the New York Times/Washington Post anti-America propaganda machine.

They have been practicing this for a couple of years now -- thread after thread -- and they will shift it into overdrive over the next year and a half.

Hold on to your freeping hat.

[Dolphy]

Oh what a surprise, huh, a French fingerprint on an effort to undermine the United States. I have no doubt, remembering Putin's warning that the US would be sorry for taking action in Iraq, that the French were and still are working behind the scenes. It is no wonder the US doesn't want to ask NATO for help in Iraq. We can't invite the French who I am sure are, in the least, quite happy with any trouble we are encountering.

[TruthNtegrity]

Bumping and bookmarking.

[Grampa Dave]

Amen Brother Jim! I'm so glad to see what you posted here:

The anti-Republican/anti-Bush paleocon/paleolibertarian/buchananite/rockwellian/anarchist movement has combined with the Democrat/French/German/Iraq pro-terror axis.

[Grampa Dave]

Great data re yellow cake re Nigeria and Iraq way before president GW.

[anglian]

Lets not forget Germany who have also been caught selling to Iran. --Armed with the design and foreign technical advisers, Iraq was buying sophisticated manufacturing equipment, including numerically controlled machine tools that were then programmed to produce centrifuge components automatically and precisely. The use of these machines would have significantly lessened the need for skilled technicians.
Headline: GERMAN FIRMS PRIMED IRAQ'S WAR MACHINE
Date: 23 July 1992
Bibliography: WASHINGTON POST, 23 July 1992, PP. A1, A26 BY R. JEFFREY SMITH AND MARC FISHER
http://www.nti.org/db/nuclear/1992/n9208257.htm

[ThePythonicCow]

Well said, Mr. Robot. It's not a person, it's an idea, a world view, secularism, that is at the center of the vast left wing conspiracy.

And nice tag line, sir.

[tallhappy]

Re 75. All you have to do is read Ron Paul or Harry Browne's articles or speeches on foreign policy.

I've seen Browne's were published in Pravda.

You can start here for Ron Paul and his immediate post 911 blame America leftist ranting.

[piasa]

thanks!

[piasa]

Sounds like Terrence J. Wilkerson had been getting around.

aka Terrence McAuliffe?

[Imal]

An excellent post, and food for thought. While I don't doubt the power of commonly-shared beliefs, I can't shake the strong impression that the activities of these people are too well coordinated to be explained by ideology alone.

I think there are real people pulling the strings of the International Socialists, and I want to know just who the hell these people are.

As Keyser Soze so aptly put it, "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

In this case, I think there is more than one devil involved, and I think it is well past time we flushed these scoundrels out of the shadows.

[Mo1]

Excellent Post ... Thank You!

[nopardons]

BTT

[nopardons]

Here it is.

[DoorGunner]

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I was going to comment on your very good references, but I stumbled across this page, on a website you have mentioned. If someone wants to be shocked and appalled, all they need to do is read this web page.

It appears to be an official IAEA document, which has many details of Iraq's purchases of uranium, and how it was processed, and how much is missing. I particularly noted this minor purchase:

The yellowcake procured from Portugal was supplied in two batches. Batch 1, received on 20 June 1980, consisted of 429 drums containing 138,098 kg of yellowcake and batch two, received as three consignments over the period from 17 May 1982 through 20 June 1982, consisted of 487 drums containing 148,348 kg yellow cake.

http://www.iraqwatch.org/un/IAEA/s-1997-779-att-1.htm

(138,098 + 148,348) X 2.2 = 630,181 Pounds / 2000 = 3151+ TONS /20 = ~158 semi truck loads (standard 18 wheelers)

Over half a million pounds of Uranium, and that is just ONE buy. They also bought MUCH more, from other sources, including enriched uranium.

What does a country with thousands of oil wells need with all of that? Nothing good.

DG

[Burkeman1]

Perhaps. A good theory. Maybe. Who knows. But I will stick with what the facts are.

[nopardons]

WE haven't all of the FACTS , but we have some competing 1/2 truths from a lot, some lies, and some gibberish of places.