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IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF PROPOSITION 13
San Diego Libertarian Party ^
| 11 July, 2003
| Richard Rider
Posted on 07/15/2003 9:25:24 AM PDT by nickcarraway
The following happens to be written specifically about San Diego, but you can remove San Diego and replace it with Santa Clara, San Mateo or any other county and the point is still the same!
IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF PROPOSITION 13
by Richard Rider
Chair Emeritus, San Diego Libertarian Party
11 July, 2003
For 25 years, one of the most enduring canards is that "Prop 13 gutted local California governments." Every imaginable failing by local government has, at one point or another, been blamed on Prop. 13.
Indeed, it has always been my admittedly facetious contention that, if the voters hadn't passed Prop 13, local politicians and bureaucrats WOULD have -- because Prop 13 has been the widely-accepted alibi politicians trot out time and time again to explain their ongoing failure to manage their budgets and properly deliver the fundamental government services for which we pay.
Local politicians DO have one legitimate beef about property taxes -- the state is confiscating a huge chunk of this revenue. But that is not the fault of Prop 13. Most of this revenue shift to the state occurred supposedly as a temporary measure in 1993 to shore up state funding during the recession. Of course, this "temporary" measure has become permanent, and THAT is what the local politicos SHOULD be screaming about.
The core contention by the big spenders is that we don't pay enough property taxes -- that Prop 13 destroyed the tax base for local government. These whiners cleverly omit the actual historical figures -- the data destroys their argument. Consider San Diego County's property tax history.
In the year prior to Prop 13 taking effect, San Diego city and county property owners paid $638.6 million in property tax. The next year, property tax revenues, which had soared 20% in just the last two years, dropped back dramatically to $353.4 million to meet Prop 13's 1% of appraised value limitation. Since then, property tax revenues have climbed rapidly. Within six years, property tax revenues exceeded pre-Prop 13 levels.
This fiscal year (ending this June), total county property taxes are $2,834.6 million, over four times more than we paid the year PRIOR to Prop 13, and eight times more than the first year Prop 13 took effect.
However, to be accurate, we need to adjust this figure to reflect both population growth and inflation since the passage of Prop 13. Total San Diego County population has grown from 1,694,000 in 1978 to about 2,835,000 today, a population increase of 67.4%.
During this same time, the total inflation has been about 180%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (there is an inflation calculator on its home page -- http://www.bls.gov/ ). Thus, if the bloated PRE-Prop 13 property tax revenue had continued to grow by inflation plus population growth (totaling 274.4%), revenues would now total $2,218.5 million. But this amount is over $600 million less than is now being collected WITH Prop 13 in place!
Stated differently, we are now paying 27.8% more property taxes than the old bloated tax, even after adjusting for population and inflation increases. The mind boggles to think how much higher property tax payments would be if we had NOT passed Prop 13.
Sadly, one can be confident that, even if we HAD paid all that extra property tax, the spendthrift politicians would STILL be telling us that we need to pay even higher taxes. They spend all they can lay their hands on, and then plead government poverty.
Actually, total tax revenues from real estate are growing at an ever faster rate. In the last 5 years, San Diego County core property tax revenue has risen 56.5%, with no slowdown in sight. In addition, in the last decade, a host of property tax assessments for everything from school bonds to road median maintenance have been levied against property owners. And local building "fees" (in essence, extortion charges levied to get permission to build -- fees ultimately paid by the property buyers) are now among the highest in the nation, particularly within the city of San Diego.
Add to that increase the rapid growth of other forms of local government revenue (especially sales tax rate increases and water/sewer charges), and it is apparent that San Diego politicians do not have a revenue problem -- they have a SPENDING problem.
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KEYWORDS: calgov2002; california; conservatism; taxes
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Saundra Duffy; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; TheAngryClam; ElkGroveDan; ..
We can't let them take Prop 13 ping
To: nickcarraway
A great thread and a keeper! Thanks!
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:27:55 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
To: RonDog; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; tubebender
Here is the perfect answer to the left wing tax and spenders who want to get rid of Prop 13 or to weaken it.
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07/15/2003 9:29:29 AM PDT
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:30:31 AM PDT
by
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To: nickcarraway
If Davis is recalled, we will see Prop 13 become stronger and many of these stealth tax attacks against Prop 13 repealed.
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:30:33 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
I can only imagine, what my town, Los Gatos, would be like if we didn't have Prop 13. A lot of families would have have been forced out a long time ago. Especially in the roaring late 90's for this area.
To: nickcarraway
Similar to Washington. We passed an initiative drastically car tab fees and now the entire state, (says the left) is broke BECAUSE of it. Transportation, loss of jobs, in debt. It would be akin to blaming your child's extra allowance for your familiy's bankruptcy. Liberals can never take responsibility for their spending parties.
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:35:36 AM PDT
by
Libertina
To: nickcarraway
I would have lost my home in the wine country shortly after I moved into it.
Property taxes were outstripping wages. We had the Carter recession going on with incredible tax rates.
The rats had the same arguments then, and we defeated them.
I wanted them to make the fatal mistake of really going after Prop 13. Apparently their focus groups and the mediots focus groups advised them to back away from going after Prop 13 in this recall and budget battle.
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:37:04 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
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To: nickcarraway; *calgov2002; PeoplesRep_of_LA; Canticle_of_Deborah; NormsRevenge; snopercod; ...
Excellent post!
calgov2002:
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:43:13 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
To: Libertina; cartoonistx
I love this outstanding toon:
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:46:04 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
To: nickcarraway
BUMP
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posted on
07/15/2003 9:50:38 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
Comment #13 Removed by Moderator
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
After the recall I am thinking about a referendum to abolish the state income tax.
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posted on
07/15/2003 10:51:04 AM PDT
by
kellynla
("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
To: kellynla
First we need a referendum limiting spending to a formula that will not tolerate a repeat of this chronic problem.
Also, if they can't come up with a balanced budget, the legislators lose their pay, their travel allowance and per diem. We can put some other good teeth into it.
Then, when we get their tax and spend addiction under control start repealing the sale income tax a couple of % per year via a prop. With 80% of income taxes staying at the local level and only 20% going to the state level.
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posted on
07/15/2003 11:05:04 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Well if FL & TX can operate without a state income tax I don't see why CA can't. What about a balanced budget amendment?
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posted on
07/15/2003 11:27:02 AM PDT
by
kellynla
("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: kellynla
A balance budget amendment is what I was referring to.
Make that the next prop with some teeth in it.
Then start whacking the income tax down and down and down. Get the perverts out of the tax honey pots and let the counties/cities who raise the money keep most of it.
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posted on
07/15/2003 11:33:33 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
To: Grampa Dave
Yes but if we had a balanced budget amendment and then a referendum abolishing the income tax wouldn't that be quicker then trying to wean the legislature off the income tax.
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posted on
07/15/2003 11:46:57 AM PDT
by
kellynla
("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Dear E.A.T.B.
You're gonna wear-out the url on that 'toon, man! Relax...I'll do more. The next couple of weeks (months?) are gonna be a laff riot!
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