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Let Them Eat Yellowcake - Reflections On A Failed Political Smear
PipeLineNews.org ^ | July 15, 2003 | William A. Mayer

Posted on 07/15/2003 10:58:45 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic

Let Them Eat Yellowcake - Reflections On A Failed Political Smear

By William A. Mayer

A consequence of the rush to judgment by much of the media over the now controversial juxtaposing of the trip-wire terms "Iraq", "yellowcake" and "Niger" in the Bush administration's 2003 State of the Union address, is the fact that in their haste to crucify George W. Bush on a cross of uranium, they may well have made both a major tactical as well as a factual blunder.

That blunder is two-fold.

1. They have either misread or more likely intentionally misinterpreted CIA Director Tenet’s July 11, 2003 statement as having made the conclusion that the Niger – Iraq fissile material transfer did not take place.

2. They have ignored the very clear facts surrounding the case, facts which – far from supporting any assertion that it was the intention of the Bush administration to stampede a nation into war – reveal a very long, and independently verifiable, Iraqi pattern of seeking out and obtaining the most critical nuclear bomb making component – uranium - either on the open market or clandestinely from underground sources for nearly a quarter-of-a-century.

Confidential sources close to the intelligence community have confirmed to us that the Tenet clarification in no way rules out the possibility that the Iraqi-Niger transaction took place. All that it states is that the high standards upon which such a determination should have been made were not sufficient for it to have been included in a speech as important as the State of the Union address.

In short the supposition cannot currently be verified.

Tenet’s main point is unambiguously clear; it was the sense of the Intelligence Community [IC] – as set out in a 90-page National Intelligence Estimate report - that Iraq was indeed quickly jump-starting its nuclear weapons program:

“…most agencies of the Intelligence Community judged that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program…”

It is this very “reconstitution” process which was so troubling to the Bush administration and appears to have been one of the primary motive forces behind the Iraq liberation operation. Noteworthy also is the clear impression that this “sense of the IC” rested not at all on an alleged uranium deal between Saddam and an impoverished African nation.

The decision to go to war would have been the same irrespective of this little bit of unsubstantiated intelligence.

It was not necessary for the administration to quote from allegedly forged British documents or in any way assemble a case built on deception to prove Iraq’s long history of seeking uranium wherever it was available.

As is the case in many of these “controversies” the public record is already replete with information that can be quite compelling. In the present case the United Nation’s International Atomic Energy Agency [IAEA] catalogued at least 8 instances wherein fissile material was imported into Iraq.

The following from: Fact Sheet: Iraq’s Nuclear Weapon Programme – International Atomic Energy Agency, 25 April 2002

1. Imported 4,006 kg of natural uranium and 6,005 kg of depleted uranium (DU) from Italy in 1979

2. Imported 1,767 kg low enriched uranium (LEU) from Italy in 1982

3. Imported almost 50 kg of highly enriched uranium (HEU) from Russia and France

4. Procured 429 drums containing 138,098 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1980

5. Procured 487 drums containing 148,348 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1982

6. Procured 432 drums containing 137,435 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1981

7. Procured 426 drums containing 139,409 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1982

8. Imported 24,260 kg of uranium dioxide from Brazil between 1981-82

What was Saddam doing with 550 tons of bomb making material, approximately 250 tons of which had been obtained from the very country mentioned in the President's State of the Union Address?

The answer lies within the same report; which details Saddam's successful efforts in enriching this treasure trove of contraband, with the obvious intent of producing a working nuclear device, the ultimate WMD.

  • Produced 109 tonnes of uranium in 168 tonnes of yellowcake at Al Qaim uranium recovery plant, which was constructed between 1982-84

  • Produced 420 drums containing 99,457 kg uranium dioxide at Al Jesira uranium conversion facility

  • Produced UF6 at Rashdiya Engineering and Design Centre

  • Processed uranium dioxide to produce UF4, uranium metal and UF6 at Tuwaitha Chemical Laboratories

  • Processed UO2 and yellowcake to produce UO2, U3O8, UO3, UO4, UF4, and uranium metal at Tuwaitha Experimental Research Laboratory for Fuel Fabrication

  • Processed UO2 to produce UCl4 at Tuwaitha Chemical Engineering Research laboratories

To any but the most dull - or more likely, ideologically blinded, partisan - the fact that Niger and Saddam had an ongoing nuclear arrangement spanning over 20 years should have been a red flag, cautioning restraint in any criticism of what Mr. Bush said in his national address.

That such criticism would come from Joseph C. Wilson, an individual [former acting ambassador to Iraq and the man who put together Clinton’s hysteric, $42+ million 1998 Great White Father tour of Africa] with an apparent ideological axe to grind [what diplomat tries to embarrass his president by crafting Op-Ed pieces in the New York Times?] is in no way surprising.

On March 3, 2003 this “career diplomat” wrote the following in an article for The Nation magazine, a lefty wet-dream periodical:

“Then what's the point of this new American imperialism? The neoconservatives with a stranglehold on the foreign policy of the Republican Party, a party that traditionally eschewed foreign military adventures, want to go beyond expanding US global influence to force revolutionary change on the region. American preeminence in the Gulf is necessary but not sufficient for the hawks. Nothing short of conquest, occupation and imposition of handpicked leaders on a vanquished population will suffice. Iraq is the linchpin for this broader assault on the region. The new imperialists will not rest until governments that ape our worldview are implanted throughout the region, a breathtakingly ambitious undertaking, smacking of hubris in the extreme.”

Intemperate language and barely suppressed hostility from an obviously left-biased political operative.

Mr. Wilson is now affiliated with a pro-Palestinian, DC based think tank - again hardly the profile one would expect of one who has dedicated his life to the deft art of international political negotiation.

The audacity of the press to once again engage in a seemingly vain attempt to create a smoking gun to grant the mantle of legitimacy to the cacophonous whining of the "stolen" election crowd is somewhat surprising.

Having failed in the, half-dozen or so, of their most recent efforts has neither decreased their lusty embrace of anything even remotely anti-Bush, nor has it in any way damaged the credibility and historically high approval ratings of the man who sends them into paroxysms of uncontrollable hate.

It smacks of a terrible desperation on their part and is a wondrous and beautiful thing to behold!


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; bush; bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; josephcwilson; left; media; niger; nigergatescam; nuclear; uranium; warlist; yellowcake
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
The reverse scandal of NigerScam continues pour back on the rats who invented it and pushed it.
51 posted on 07/15/2003 11:55:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks GrampaDave, It wont be long before this backfires real bad on the RATS, Soon the attention will be on Joseph Wilson and just what made him think he was qualified to investigate anything in Niger, or for that matter, anything for the CIA period.

The Ca CA is gonna hit the fan

52 posted on 07/15/2003 11:55:39 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud and the whole world needs to know it)
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To: johnqueuepublic
2. They have ignored the very clear facts surrounding the case, facts which – far from supporting any assertion that it was the intention of the Bush administration to stampede a nation into war – reveal a very long, and independently verifiable, Iraqi pattern of seeking out and obtaining the most critical nuclear bomb making component – uranium - either on the open market or clandestinely from underground sources for nearly a quarter-of-a-century.

Maybe someone can explain why Saddam would need millions of dollars in his petty cash fund stashed around Iraq. Some of this stuff you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots.

53 posted on 07/15/2003 11:55:40 AM PDT by swheats
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To: MJY1288
Please post what you have on Joseph C Wilson's wife!
54 posted on 07/15/2003 11:57:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: johnqueuepublic
Here is an article in the UK Telegraph talking about the Brit Intel and the French:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$NQRIUVE5011OJQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F07%2F14%2Fwdoss114.xml


French secret service 'kept CIA in the dark over Iraq and uranium'
By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 14/07/2003)


The French secret service is believed to have refused to allow MI6 to give the Americans "credible" intelligence showing that Iraq was trying to buy uranium ore from Niger, US intelligence sources said yesterday.

MI6 had more than one "different and credible" piece of intelligence to show that Iraq was attempting to buy the ore, known as yellowcake, British officials insisted. But it was given to them by at least one and possibly two intelligence services and, under the rules governing cooperation, it could not be shared with anyone else without the originator's permission.

US intelligence sources believe that the most likely source of the MI6 intelligence was the French secret service, the DGSE. Niger is a former French colony and its uranium mines are run by a French company that comes under the control of the French Atomic Energy Commission.

A further factor in the refusal to hand over the information might have been concern that the US administration's willingness to publicise intelligence might lead to sources being inadvertently disclosed.

US sources also point out that the French government was vehemently opposed to the war with Iraq and so suggest that it would have been instinctively against the idea of passing on the intelligence.

British sources yesterday dismissed suggestions of a row between MI6 and the CIA on the issue. However, they admitted being surprised that George Tenet, the CIA director, had apologised to President George W Bush for allowing him to cite the British government and its claim that Saddam had sought to acquire uranium from Africa in his State of the Union speech last October.

The apology follows the International Atomic Energy Authority's dismissal of documents given to it by the CIA, which purported to prove the link, as fakes.

Those documents have been widely identified with last September's British dossier on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, which said Saddam Hussein was trying to buy uranium ore from an unnamed country in Africa.

British officials admitted that the country was Niger but insisted that the intelligence behind it was genuine and had nothing to do with the fake documents. It was convincing and they were sticking with it, the officials said.

They dismissed a report from a former US diplomat who was sent to Niger to investigate the claims and rejected them. "He seems to have asked a few people if it was true and when they said 'no' he accepted it all," one official said. "We see no reason at all to change our assessment."

The fake documents were not behind that assessment and were not seen by MI6 until after they were denounced by the IAEA. If MI6 had seen them earlier, it would have immediately advised the Americans that they were fakes.

There had been a number of reports in America in particular suggesting that the fake documents - which came from another intelligence source - were passed on via MI6, the officials said. But this was not true.

"What they can't accuse MI6 of doing is passing anything on this to the CIA because it didn't have the fake documents and it was not allowed to pass on the intelligence it did have to anyone else."


Michael Smith's new book The Spying Game, which examines the intelligence behind the September dossier, is published by Politico's.

55 posted on 07/15/2003 11:58:55 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Miss Marple
You have a smart daughter it would appear. I have never thought Mr Grahm was very presidential, either. Or any Dim declaring himself for 2004, for that matter!
56 posted on 07/15/2003 12:00:14 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: Grampa Dave
You mean aside from the fact that she turns tricks under freeway overpasses for 5 bucks??
57 posted on 07/15/2003 12:00:16 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Spiff; William McKinley; PhilDragoo
This is a great site. This is respected third party documentation of the nuclear threat Iraq was until the regime change happened.

Thank you!

http://www.iaea.or.at/worldatom/Programmes/ActionTeam/nwp2.html
58 posted on 07/15/2003 12:01:13 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: All
Might I ask a question? This 'article' refers to Iraq buying uranium between '79 and '83, then refers to constituting WMD from '82-'84. Are there any other dates given after this? Just asking because the Pres said the British learned Hussein "recently" tried to acquire the uranium. How does a reference to something 20 years old support the "recently" in his statement? And the "20 year" relationship between Iraq and Africa? That's odd. The story refers to two years that were twenty years ago. "Confidential sources"? This article is weak. If somebody referenced an article that referred to "confidential sources" and most didn't agree with it, they'd be saying "funny how they're always using 'confidential sources'" and dismiss it.
59 posted on 07/15/2003 12:01:40 PM PDT by Sub
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To: Grampa Dave
Thank you for flagging me to this. Bump for later read...
60 posted on 07/15/2003 12:03:26 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Cathryn Crawford; ValenB4
Anyone ping you, yet? Can you think of anyone else who might be interested in this?
61 posted on 07/15/2003 12:04:14 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: johnqueuepublic
Apparently Wilson's wife has worked for the CIA or is still working for the CIA.

If they had pillow talk about this, and he was not cleared. Both of them could be in some really hot water.
62 posted on 07/15/2003 12:05:26 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: johnqueuepublic
The funny thing is that any reporter worth his or her salt can get to the bottom of these things.......IF they want to.

Chris Matthews flat out lied last night on his program about that Wilson guy. He said he was a conservitave who worked for the Reagan admin and never mentioned that he wrote that article for the Nation or any of the other stuff.

I wish someone that can express themselves better than me would send him an email and point this out.

63 posted on 07/15/2003 12:05:27 PM PDT by CaliforniaOkie
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To: Sub
Sub

I think that if you establish a previous pattern of behavior it tends to strengthen assertions of similar behavior of a more recent nature, ie if you have been found guilty of extortion then if someone claims you defrauded them too, it lowers the bar a bit, wouldnt you agree?

What this shows, in my laymens view is that charges that saddam went to niger to get nuke material is not just idle speculation, he has a track record.
64 posted on 07/15/2003 12:09:51 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
Good article, but the president didn't mention "Niger" in his State of the Union Address. He said Africa:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

65 posted on 07/15/2003 12:10:03 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: CaliforniaOkie
Chris matthews is a detestable pig, and possibly the illegitimate offspring of Tip o Neil and Helen Thomas.

No point sending him anything but room freshener.
66 posted on 07/15/2003 12:11:37 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Sub
See my post 55 in this thread about more detail of the specifics of this claim, that the intelligence the British have is real.

Considering that Saddam has continuously bought and tried to buy more uranium and equipment to try to enrich it by various methods, as this article points out, it is quite likely he did seek uranium from Niger.

The ONLY claim that he did not, comes from an anti-Bush "diplomat", who went to Niger, asked some Nigerian officials, whether they sold any uranium to Saddam lately, so what do you think they were going to say. And based on that, he wrote a NY Times editorial claiming that Bush "islead the nation" and so on, which the Dems are desperately trying to turn into something that sticks, and it will backfire on them.
67 posted on 07/15/2003 12:11:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Grampa Dave
All I know about her is that her name is Valerie Plame and for some reason evrytime she is mentioned it says the "Former Valerie Plame" what ever the hell that means, sounds like another Kerry-Hienz deal :-)

She is an Operative in the CIA and was instrumental in sending her husband Joseph Wilson (Former AL Gore employee) to Niger for this all important highly sensitive investigation on Uranium sales between Niger and Iraq.

Joe Wilson went to Niger and asked Terrance J. Wilkiinson if he knew if Niger was selling "Yellow Cake" to Niger but he said he was unaware of any such things happening :-) Joe Wilson then asked Greg Packer if he knew of any such sales and he said no as well. So Joe Wilson has come to the conclusion that George W. Bush is a liar and Joe Wilson decided it was time to write an OP-ED for the NYT's and the shiite has hit the fan.

P.S. the last paragraph can be verified by Doug Thopson of Capitol Hill Blue :-)

68 posted on 07/15/2003 12:13:03 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud and the whole world needs to know it)
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To: cake_crumb
yellow cake crumb, you have a sharp eye, I think the typo was corrected on the PipeLineNews.org site, I must have pulled an earlier version, my bad.
69 posted on 07/15/2003 12:14:58 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: arkfreepdom
Did anyone else see E. D. on Fox and Friends this morning ask Sen. Bob Grahm why he stated in Oct. 2002 that Iraq was seeking uranium. He mumbled like an old fool. This ain't over yet.

Also noteworthy on the 7/15 F&F show is when Amb. Ginsburg "outed" himself as a Democrat and a friend and admirer of Joseph C. Wilson during the 7AM EST hour. It makes you wonder about who's best interestest he has at heart when he's shilling his Middle East "expertise". Everyone knows that Dennis Ross is a 100% Clinton flunky and you can turn on the BS-filter. However, there's so many other under-the-radar Clintoids that don't have the name / face recongition so, some of their "message" is bound to get through as "fact" even on FNC.

70 posted on 07/15/2003 12:18:11 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Grampa Dave
Hmmmm, why does he remind me of Eddie Haskell?
71 posted on 07/15/2003 12:19:15 PM PDT by MJemison
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To: MJemison
You are right. He does remind me of Eddie Haskell!
72 posted on 07/15/2003 12:21:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Another Louisville slugger to use on the whining third party scumbags trying to blame our president with this DNC created NigerScam.

Uranium-Gate is gonna mutate the RATs, they will slowly get sick, start vomiting, lose their hair and then eventually succumb to the effects of radiation poisoning.

73 posted on 07/15/2003 12:21:13 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Rats are showing all the symptoms of severe radiation poisoning)
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To: jriemer
This is why I'm watching Fox less and less. There are too many rat/moles on FNC pretending to news people when they are card carrying rats!

You posted:

Also noteworthy on the 7/15 F&F show is when Amb. Ginsburg "outed" himself as a Democrat and a friend and admirer of Joseph C. Wilson during the 7AM EST hour. It makes you wonder about who's best interestest he has at heart when he's shilling his Middle East "expertise". Everyone knows that Dennis Ross is a 100% Clinton flunky and you can turn on the BS-filter. However, there's so many other under-the-radar Clintoids that don't have the name / face recongition so, some of their "message" is bound to get through as "fact" even on FNC.

74 posted on 07/15/2003 12:23:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: Bob
"Perhaps two mistakes. I don't believe that W said 'yellowcake' either."

Nope, he didn't. It's the press and the leftist nutzos who insist he did.

Did you catch the president's joint press conference with Khofi? I love this part...it's so telling:

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, Dana, one last question.

Q Mr. President, back on the question of Iraq, and that specific line that has been in question --

THE PRESIDENT: Can you cite the line? (Laughter.)

Q I could, if you gave me some time.

In other words, the "journalists" have no clue on the actual wording of the statement they are questioning President Bush about. Nor do they care what he really said. They don't care whether Saddam was trying to build anothe Bomb, either.

75 posted on 07/15/2003 12:24:07 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
Good article, but the president didn't mention "Niger" in his State of the Union Address. He said Africa:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Africa has other countries with significant Uranium mining:

===

World Uranium Mining

Nuclear Issues Briefing Paper 41

June 2003



Canada produces the largest share of uranium from mines (32% of world supply), followed by Australia (19%).

Production from mines (tonnes U)

country 2001 2002



Canada 12520 11604
Australia 7756 6888
Niger 2920 3075
Russia (est) 2500 2900
Kazakhstan 2050 2800
Namibia 2239 2333
Uzbekistan 1962 1860
USA 1011 919
South Africa 873 824
Ukraine (est) 750 800
China (est) 655 730
Czech Republic 456 465
India (est) 230 230
Brazil 58 270
Romania 85 90
Spain 30 37
France 195 20
others 76 252
Total world 36 366 36 097

(42 886 t U3O8) (40 569 t U3O8)

WNA Market Report data

===

Of note, the "stan" countries in the former USSR also have major Uranium production.

76 posted on 07/15/2003 12:25:57 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: MJY1288
Your intel about Joseph Wilson's wife being a CIA operative has just been confirmed by Doug Thompson's own private source/spook, the honorable unnamed/undisclosed source of Doug's, the great spook, Terrance J. Wilkerson.


77 posted on 07/15/2003 12:28:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: Grampa Dave
LOL!!!
78 posted on 07/15/2003 12:31:05 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Grampa Dave
LOL, In all seriousness, I would like to see someone investigate Joe Wilson and his wife the CIA operative
79 posted on 07/15/2003 12:31:54 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud and the whole world needs to know it)
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To: FairOpinion
The French connection once again.

Does anyone else remember that it was DeVillein who stood up and broke the "news" that the receipt Colin Powell used as part of this presentation to the SC was a forgery?

If France were really cooperating in the war against terrorism, why pick a public forum with a world stage to make a statement which should have been made in private, diplomatic discussions where intelligence is discussed and cooperation really given...if not as another piece of proof that France is our enemy?

80 posted on 07/15/2003 12:35:12 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: johnqueuepublic
My tale on this is that Dems are desperate not to see Nader or anyone in any way split up the ticket. They are also battling mightily for turnout of the "Dark Side" of their base as the Republicans could further expand there lead in both houses. As Rush has said, in the cloak rooms, they may be freaking.
81 posted on 07/15/2003 12:36:30 PM PDT by Helms (If California is the Future, I will live in the Past)
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To: johnqueuepublic
"yellow cake crumb, you have a sharp eye, I think the typo was corrected on the PipeLineNews.org site, I must have pulled an earlier version, my bad."

NP. This article is otherwise great, and I would love to have as many people read it and burn it into their memories as possible. While only a part or the administration's overall case for military action against Iraq, the entire left is bound and determined to obscess on the smoking WMD gun and ONLY the smoking WMD gun.

82 posted on 07/15/2003 12:44:12 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: MJY1288
http://www.conservativenews.org/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=\Commentary\archive\200307\COM20030714b.html

Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. "I will not answer any question about my wife," Wilson told me.

After eight days in the Niger capital of Niamey (where he once served), Wilson made an oral report in Langley that an Iraqi uranium purchase was "highly unlikely," though he also mentioned in passing that a 1988 Iraqi delegation tried to establish commercial contacts.

CIA officials did not regard Wilson's intelligence as definitive, being based primarily on what the Niger officials told him and probably would have claimed under any circumstances. The CIA report of Wilson's briefing remains classified.

83 posted on 07/15/2003 12:50:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: jriemer
Great find.

There's far more credible intelligence on Saddam's attempts to aquire uranium and the public will know for a VERY long time.

I also need to correct a previous post : I think it might have been El Bodyboy who broke the story on the receipt forgery and DeVillain just ran with it.

84 posted on 07/15/2003 12:50:48 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: johnqueuepublic; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/946194/posts

Niger Intel Accurate (Brits: "no reason at all to change our assessment.")
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 14/07/2003 | Michael Smith


Posted on 07/14/2003 7:05 PM PDT by Pubbie


The French secret service is believed to have refused to allow MI6 to give the Americans "credible" intelligence showing that Iraq was trying to buy uranium ore from Niger, US intelligence sources said yesterday.

MI6 had more than one "different and credible" piece of intelligence to show that Iraq was attempting to buy the ore, known as yellowcake, British officials insisted. But it was given to them by at least one and possibly two intelligence services and, under the rules governing cooperation, it could not be shared with anyone else without the originator's permission.

US intelligence sources believe that the most likely source of the MI6 intelligence was the French secret service, the DGSE. Niger is a former French colony and its uranium mines are run by a French company that comes under the control of the French Atomic Energy Commission.
85 posted on 07/15/2003 12:58:50 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: cake_crumb; Willie Green; Grampa Dave
Some Namibia facts:

Economy: The economy is heavily dependent on the extraction and processing of minerals for export. Mining accounts for 20% of GDP. Namibia is the fourth-largest exporter of nonfuel minerals in Africa and the world's fifth-largest producer of uranium. Rich alluvial diamond deposits make Namibia a primary source for gem-quality diamonds. Namibia also produces large quantities of lead, zinc, tin, silver, and tungsten. About half of the population depends on agriculture (largely subsistence agriculture) for its livelihood. Namibia must import some of its food. Although per capita GDP is five times the per capita GDP of Africa's poorest countries, the majority of Namibia's people live in pronounced poverty because of large-scale unemployment, the great inequality of income distribution, and the large amount of wealth going to foreigners. The Namibian economy has close links to South Africa. Agreement has been reached on the privatization of several more enterprises in coming years, which should stimulate long-run foreign investment.

Unemployment:30% to 40%, including underemployment (Tell Willie Green)

Religons: Christian 80% to 90% (Lutheran 50% at least), indigenous beliefs 10% to 20%

International Disputes: None

From CIA - The World Fact Book

86 posted on 07/15/2003 1:02:55 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Grampa Dave
That looks like Robert Novak's piece in the Washington Post and Human Events
87 posted on 07/15/2003 1:04:21 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud and the whole world needs to know it)
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To: MJY1288
This was the article that came up first in the search for Valerie Flambea or whatever her name is.
88 posted on 07/15/2003 1:06:57 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: RobFromGa
I agree that this is a good article, but at least one careless mistake: Bush said "Africa" not "Niger" in SOTU.

Correct. I think I heard that a draft contained Niger but the CIA nixed that specific reference.

89 posted on 07/15/2003 1:08:05 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Grampa Dave
Out of everything I have read about this story, the thing that bothers me the most is what Jack Straw said about why they wouldn't share the intel with us, his words were "For Good Reasons" (as I explained in private session) we did not share the intel we have with the Americans" that is an eye opening statement about how secure they believe our Intel community is.
90 posted on 07/15/2003 1:09:33 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud and the whole world needs to know it)
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To: Grampa Dave
If you do a GOOGLE search on "Ambassador Joseph Wilson" and then another on "Wilson Plame" oe "Plame Wilson" her name comes up a few times, but always in the same way.
91 posted on 07/15/2003 1:14:10 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud and the whole world needs to know it)
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To: johnqueuepublic
..new American imperialism...neoconservatives ...stranglehold ....foreign military adventures....force revolutionary change on the region. ....hawks... conquest, occupation ....handpicked leaders ...vanquished population ...linchpin .... broader assault...new imperialists ....ape .....implanted ....smacking of hubris in the extreme.

Hubris is what wrote this stupidity.

92 posted on 07/15/2003 1:19:53 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: johnqueuepublic
Glad you caught that, will pass it along to Mr. Mayer.

He still hasn't corrected the mistake I noted in post #6 about "the very country mentioned" in SOTU. No country was mentioned in SOTU. He did change "Niger" to "Africa" in the first paragraph.

93 posted on 07/15/2003 1:20:28 PM PDT by RobFromGa (4)
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To: johnqueuepublic
All this information is available from UN sources (is that too far Right wing?) at http://www.iaea.or.at/worldatom/Programmes/ActionTeam/nwp2.html.

Lefties read it and weep.
94 posted on 07/15/2003 1:25:04 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: RobFromGa; johnqueuepublic
I think the best thing would be to actually quote Bush's SOTU -- since hardly anyone does, and people don't even know what he actually said:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
95 posted on 07/15/2003 1:25:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
This is excellent what you have posted here!

"I think the best thing would be to actually quote Bush's SOTU -- since hardly anyone does, and people don't even know what he actually said:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

96 posted on 07/15/2003 1:40:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: MJY1288
The Brits have been super in protecting their sources of intel re not saying who or what country their intel came from.

They probably got this intel from a French connection, who would be placed at peril if the word got out. He still may be at peril do to this exposure.

Last but not least, the Brits and the Israelis who have top notch intel have some real trust issues when we have presidents like Carter and Clinton and $inators like Torracelli (was), Biden, Leaky Leahy, Carl Levin and other rats who would sell out our country to stay in power. These rats would have no problem destroying the intel of Britain or Israel or Italy.
97 posted on 07/15/2003 1:46:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Please invest 17 cents a day/5$ per month in Free Republic as a monthly supporter.)
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To: Tom Bombadil
Nice edit.
98 posted on 07/15/2003 2:44:36 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: RobFromGa
I dunno here is the statement from sotu

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Saddam, yooranium, Afreeeeka

Seems all in order to me
99 posted on 07/15/2003 2:50:14 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: RobFromGa
Gee Rob I must be thicker than usual, now i get it....
100 posted on 07/15/2003 2:51:22 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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