Lonely Death of Man Who Found Saddam’s Anthrax (David Kelly)

Times of London ^ | July 19, 2003

[jocon307]

"Well, of course. That is always the best cover. It happens often enough to be believable and you don't have to make believe you are investigating a murder."

Oh, yes, very good, EXCELLENT point, esp. the last bit. Throw in a quote like "not the world he wanted to live in" and you've got it made. I am NOT AT ALL getting why ANYONE would want to commit MURDER (hm, um, Nero Wolf voice- dub it yourself) or SUICIDE (extra thick Tom Lantos voice)over any of this BBC flap stuff.

I mean, do we now expect George Tenant to kill himself? Were people killed over Watergate? I mean, wasn't that what was weird about Vince Foster, who I seem to remember actually had some history of mental instability? Is Bush going to have that New Guy at the NYTimes "taken out"?

I feel like Alice down the Rabbit Hole with this stuff. I don't think it's just me, since so many people are posting that they are confused, yet the chatterers in the media chatter on, like this is Laci Peterson, or even Nicole Simpson, and OF COURSE the (ex)Hubby did it, even if he beats the rap in the end. I mean, those stories I can comprehend. But this one is really a quagmire!

[Princeton]

1. Nov. 12, 2001:

Benito Que was said to have been beaten in a Miami parking lot and died later.

2. Nov. 16, 2001:

Don C. Wiley went missing. Was found Dec. 20. Investigators said he got dizzy on a Memphis bridge and fell to his death in a river.

3. Nov. 21, 2001:

Vladimir Pasechnik, former high-level Russian microbiologist who defected in 1989 to the U.K. apparently died from a stroke.

4. Dec. 10, 2001:

Robert M. Schwartz was stabbed to death in Leesberg, Va. Three Satanists have been arrested.

5. Dec. 14, 2001:

Nguyen Van Set died in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia.

6. Feb. 9, 2002:

Victor Korshunov had his head bashed in near his home in Moscow.

7. Feb. 14, 2002:

Ian Langford was found partially naked and wedged under a chair in Norwich, England.

8. 9. Feb. 28, 2002:

San Francisco resident Tanya Holzmayer was killed by a microbiologist colleague, Guyang Huang, who shot her as she took delivery of a pizza and then apparently shot himself.

10. March 24, 2002:

David Wynn-Williams died in a road accident near his home in Cambridge, England.

11. March 25, 2002:

Steven Mostow of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre, killed in a plane he was flying near Denver.



12. David Kelly, the British microbiologist who was found dead this morning,


13. Perhaps #13 will die by lethal injection.

[VOA]

Anyone think about this angle?

You'd think that would be one of the first angles to consider.

In the last year a fellow named Sargon (honest) who is is the expatriate leader of
the Assyrians of Iraq won a LARGE cash settlement from a lawsuit (against the Iraqi guvmint?)
because he convinced a US court that Saddam/his guvmint had tried to assassinate him numerous times.

I can't remember the actual location, but Sargon lives in a decent sized compound in
Central California, from which he keeps in contact with his flock via satellite broadcasts.
(This was in The Los Angeles Times...which I read for opposition research)

[Princeton]

PING!

[cyncooper]

I am NOT AT ALL getting why ANYONE would want to commit MURDER (hm, um, Nero Wolf voice- dub it yourself) or SUICIDE (extra thick Tom Lantos voice)over any of this BBC flap stuff.

The only way that suicide fits for me---so far----is he was caught telling a journalist blatant lies about the state of British intelligence. Would that be treason? IF that is what he did, maybe he was anti-war--who knows--,perhaps suicide over what he feared would be a trial or other public exposure.

Now, it was said the MPs believed him when he said he was not the sole source, but perhaps after the hearing he felt he had been caught out?

[jocon307]

"...but maybe a plastic bag over the head?"

Then this will be ruled a death by sexual misadventure, IIRC, like at least two of the SDI guys mentioned in antiguv's link above.

[4integrity]

...or simply to implicate Blair/Bush and continue to try to turn the world (and sadly, our own people) against Bush and Blair. I'm sure the Dems will gladly contribute to this conspiracy theory. When Bob Graham completes the impeachment section of his journal, he can start on the conspiracy section.

[Ditter]

>>>>>what does this leave?>>>>>>>> It leaves a head injury or he bled to death. I can't think of much else.

[cyncooper]

Ping to my #85 for my thoughts if Kelly is a suicide what the motive might be.

Awaiting further details on cause of death.

[muawiyah]

What you call a "fallback on the purity of his religion" is a very important clue to this man's death.

Folks are presently assuming that someone in the UK government, or at the BBC, or maybe even in the US government murdered this man.

Since he is a member of Baha’i, it's entirely possible it was an Iranian government hit. Remember, Baha'i and the Shi'a mullahs have never hit it off too well and the mullahs quite regularly put these guys on trial and kill them.

[Slyfox]

Mysterious Microbiologists Deaths

[McGavin999]

No, the government "offing" him would be too obvious. They wouldn't do it, especially at this point in time because they would be the first to be suspected. Besides, they have the means to have done it in such a way that nobody would/could ever suspect. i.e. an accident, a plane crash, etc. The timing on this is too bad. They would have done something BEFORE the testimony. No, this was done at this time in this way to cast suspicion on the government.

[Lessismore]

Clearly he did an inadequate job of taking the fall for the Blair government. If he had told the committee that he was the BBC reporter's source, there would have been a minor fuss, but everything would blow over. Unfortunately, the guy appears to have had some scruples and was unwilling to take the dive for the govt.

Most likely terminated with extreme prejudice by some faction in the British govt.

[Betty Jo]

Come on Freepers, I've already told you on another thread.

Bin Laden and/or Saddam killed him.

Just like Don Wiley.

Wiley was killed because he would be too good at fighting SARS and the other goodies yet to get us, and now Kelly because his death causes such a ruckus,raises uneasiness,soon to be terror,and just for plain old revenge.

Saddam and Binny have a sense of humor.

Watching us and our reactions is fun to them.

At one time, Kelly knew all that he could know given the restraints,about Saddams bios.

Now he knows nothing.

Dead bioweapon experts cant talk.

[AntiGuv]

No, the government "offing" him would be too obvious. They wouldn't do it, especially at this point in time because they would be the first to be suspected.

So what? What if they are the first to be suspected (which is and was inevitable)? What is anyone gonna do about it?

If the motives were strong enough, they'd off him and suspicions be damned... Your remarks indicate that you have prejudged what it was that may've made him a threat to someone or other. Why are you so sure you know?

[McGavin999]

Why are you so sure you know?

Because I've got good instincts and I'm right 99.9% of the time. Besides, it would have made more sense to get rid of him BEFORE he testified, not after. That could have been taken care of in minutes, without any effort. No, I think it far more likely it has something to do with the BBC. They are in a fight for their lives right now. I'm beginning to wonder just who is behind the BBC, and why. They were blatantly anti-war. They were even thrown off one of the British warships in the middle of the war. Everyone over in Iraq has commented on it. There is far more to this story than meets the eye, and it's not the government this time.

[AntiGuv]

It's a safe bet this one falls into the 00.1% category...

[beckett]

Baha'i is very big among the one-worlders at the United Nations. In fact if I recall correctly the United Nations has a place in Baha'i doctrine itself, although I'd have to check to be sure.

Basically it looks like Kelly "sexed up" his leak to Gilligan, and when he got caught dead to rights he took the easy way out, knowing full well that he'd leave his enemies in the Blair cabinet with a lot explaining to do, which satisfied his angry feelings towards them.

The act of coward.

[hoosiermama]

Thank you for posting. This is the list that came to mind when I heard of the DR's death.

Who would benefit from all of these scientist death?

[Lessismore]

Any idea what Baha'i doctrine on suicide is? I've searched some, but I haven't found a good explanation.