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No Catholic Pro-Life Judges Need Apply
Catholic.org ^ | 07.02.03 | Ambassador Ray Flynn

Posted on 07/26/2003 11:02:15 AM PDT by Coleus

No Catholic Pro-Life Judges Need Apply
 
by Raymond L. Flynn
 
When I was Mayor of Boston, Sean Hughes of West Roxbury, MA, my good friend from the Irish peace and justice movement, came into my office at Boston City Hall and presented me a sign to remind me of a not so enlightened time in Boston’s history.
Not too many years ago, signs like the one he gave me appeared in downtown store windows reading, “Help Wanted, no Irish or Catholics need apply.”
 
In fact, Boston was a city that strongly backed the virulent anti-Catholic Know Nothing Party, or the Order of the Star Spangled Banner as it was also called. These bigots controlled every State Senate seat and all but two seats in the Massachusetts House of Representatives. Bible-thumping diatribes against Catholics were routine in Boston. Riots and demonstrations against Catholics and immigrants were commonplace. Propaganda by Congregationalists stirred up the people, and even resulted in the burning of a Catholic convent in Charlestown, MA while hundreds looked on and cheered.
 
The blatant hatred for growing Catholic immigrant communities in Boston, New York and Philadelphia became so intense by so-called natives, religious leaders and politicians that finally the tenacious and courageous John Hughes, Archbishop of New York, was forced to go public. He took on the powerful institutions and politicians who were persecuting poor and struggling, mainly Irish, Catholics. Hughes also challenged City Hall, the State House and even our nation’s capital to cease the abuse and discrimination. His most public and direct response to the threat of the burning down of Catholic churches, convents and schools was, “I’ll make New York City look like ‘A Second Moscow’ if they do.” Hughes was severely criticized in the press for his outspoken comments. In fact, he was a frequent target of Thomas Nast, creator of the most popular editorial newspaper cartoons of the day, whose militant anti-Catholic sentiments were well known.

Much of the ridicule was directed at the pope and what some called his ignorant and uneducated immigrant flock. Even Catholic officials were afraid to confront the establishment that controlled the money and jobs at that time. Hughes openly took on Catholic Democratic politicians whom he felt had taken the Catholic voters for granted. Sound familiar? The Catholic officials who did support the reforms won, while those who wavered lost their positions. The only defender of the oppressed immigrant people at the time were some Catholic Church leaders, most of whom originally came from Ireland. Clearly it was these Catholic leaders who forced reform and fought for social and economic justice.
 
Once Bishop Hughes proved the political importance of the Catholic vote, he then was satisfied to step back and let the state do what it did and the Church do what it was supposed to do. Catholic discrimination did not end there, however. It festered throughout the 19th century and into the next, and it is still with us today in an, admittedly, much more subtle way. A major problem today is that too many Catholics think they have made it in America and the struggle is over. Yes, they finally elected a U.S. President. They have also been represented by many prominent Catholic political, business, religious and medical leaders. But do Catholics really have influence in the United States today? Are Church principles, traditions and values of the Catholic faith treated with respect in our secular society? In a liberal media-influenced society, do loyal traditional Catholics have a serious voice in the ownership of these powerful interests? Do other religions hold the same high level of respect for Catholic principles as we do for theirs? Does either major political party really care what is important to Catholics?
 
They either ignore us or take us for granted. Lastly, even the recent clergy sex abuse scandal, was it not evident that so very few prominent Catholics were willing to at least stand up for the overwhelming majority of good and faithful priests we have in the Church? Were they afraid of the criticism that they would receive on talk radio and television by being associated with the church? Why is it that it is largely the Catholic Church that historically defends the poor, innocent, immigrant and unborn and opposes the death penalty, war, welfare reform and same sex marriages? In this “politically correct” environment, with so much power in the hands of the media elite, is it any surprise that the Church has so many cultural enemies?
 
Let me end with a question for Catholics to ponder- a question that goes to the essence of my comments and is tied to recent developments. What do you think the chances are that a U.S. President will ever nominate a Catholic pro-life judge to the U.S. Supreme Court, given that some openings on the nation’s highest court are expected in the near future? And even if one did, what are the odds that Catholic U.S. Senators would vote for them. The Constitution gives the Senate the power of advice and consent over nominees to the federal judiciary. Generally, this means majority rules. However, the current polarized environment finds many nominees excluded by special interest induced filibusters, not even allowing the Senate to vote on their candidacy.
 
Maybe those store signs that I talked about earlier should now read,
 
“U.S. Supreme Court Judges needed, No Catholic Pro-Life Judges Need Apply.”


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Bible-thumping diatribes against Catholics were routine in Boston. Riots and demonstrations against Catholics and immigrants were commonplace. Propaganda by Congregationalists stirred up the people. >>>

Sounds like some FR threads. Some things never change.

1 posted on 07/26/2003 11:02:15 AM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus
"U.S. Supreme Court Judges needed, No Catholic Pro-Life Judges Need Apply.”

In my Catholic experience, I'd wouldn't be surprised at all if many of our liberal clergy and leadership support this type of discrimination.

2 posted on 07/26/2003 11:08:15 AM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: All; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Not Democratic or Republican, but Catholic
http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=293

Ray Flynn, former Democrat mayor of Boston, was Clinton's only Pro-life appointee in his administration. Flynn Voted for Bush in 2000. He is also the honorary president of http://www.catholicvote.org

Please contact your U.S. Senators (and state legislators too) and ask them if they are opposed to confirming judges who believe in Catholic ( or Evangelical Christian, Mormon, Muslim or Orthodox Jewish ) doctrine regarding the sanctity of life and parental rights. Remind them that the Constitution allows no religious test and that you and members of your faith community do vote!
3 posted on 07/26/2003 11:09:08 AM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: TheEngineer
In my Catholic experience, I do find this a little surprising in today's society. I guess I was a sheltered as a military bratt, growing up on many different military bases here and Europe. As an adult civilian today.....nothing democrats do today really surprise me!
4 posted on 07/26/2003 11:16:25 AM PDT by Arpege92
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To: Coleus
Please contact your U.S. Senators (and state legislators too) and ask them if they are opposed to confirming judges who believe in Catholic ( or Evangelical Christian, Mormon, Muslim or Orthodox Jewish ) doctrine regarding the sanctity of life and parental rights. Remind them that the Constitution allows no religious test and that you and members of your faith community do vote

My sneators, "Orthodox Joe" Lieberman and "Kill'em on the way out pretend Catholic" Chris Dodd know my views on this by rote.

5 posted on 07/26/2003 11:20:17 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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>>In my Catholic experience, I'd wouldn't be surprised at all if many of our liberal clergy and leadership support this type of discrimination.<<

You got that right. Hugh Hewitt was wondering out loud why no American Catholic bishops have stood up against this. I kept shouting to the radio "because they're Democrats". If the Republicans were planning to cut some socialist government handout, you'd hear plenty from them.
6 posted on 07/26/2003 11:20:33 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: Coleus
Riots and demonstrations against Catholics and immigrants were commonplace. Propaganda by Congregationalists stirred up the people.

Ahhh, the good old days.

So9

7 posted on 07/26/2003 11:55:42 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: TheEngineer
In my Catholic experience, I'd wouldn't be surprised at all if many of our liberal clergy and leadership support this type of discrimination.

I think gutlessness is more commonly the malady of mainline Protestant clergy (NCC churches, especially), who would do well to heed these words from Martin Luther:

"If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the word of God except precisely that little point which the world and the Devil are at that point attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ. Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is tested. To be steady in all the battlefields besides is mere flight and disgrace, if the soldier flinches at that one point."

8 posted on 07/26/2003 11:59:12 AM PDT by rhema
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To: Coleus
Thanks for the heads up!
9 posted on 07/26/2003 12:14:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: rhema
Great quote. Thanks.
10 posted on 07/26/2003 12:31:18 PM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: jwalsh07
Thanks mine too: Communist Corzine and Frank Lousenberg
11 posted on 07/26/2003 12:33:25 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: Coleus
I'm not Catholic but this is a very good article.
12 posted on 07/26/2003 4:04:44 PM PDT by Michael2001 (Pain is temporary. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever)
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To: ValenB4
You might enjoy reading this.
13 posted on 07/26/2003 6:22:07 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Why don't you think I'm a neocon?)
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To: Coleus
Wasn't JFK a Catholic? Why isn't his brother on board? I don't remember the Nation stirred up when he was president.
14 posted on 07/26/2003 10:25:21 PM PDT by katz
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Wasn't JFK a Catholic? >>>>>>>>>

That was then and this is now.

Yes, he was and a poor one at that as we now hear about his romps with a 19 yr. old. and I still think he murdered Marilyn Monroe, but anyway... Back then, abortion was illegal so it wasn't as big as an issue as it is now. Also, he was more conservative with taxes than many democrats are today. As a matter of fact, he along with Harding and Reagan were the only presidents of the 20th century who cut taxes.

His brother, fat Edward, is a left wing liberal who is pro abortion, against school choice, pro homosexual marriages and adoptions, etc....

What ray Flynn was talking about was that Bush recently appointed about a dozen pro-life nominees to the federal judiciary who are catholic and pro life; many of the Senators of all faiths, including Catholics, are filibustering. It's very frustrating from a Catholic/pro-life standpoint.
15 posted on 07/26/2003 11:33:09 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: All
Accusation of Catholic Bias Angers Democrats--Gotta Love It!!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/953256/posts
16 posted on 07/26/2003 11:37:08 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: Coleus
No Catholic Pro-Life Judges Need Apply
17 posted on 07/27/2003 11:32:17 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I)
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To: nickcarraway
bttt
18 posted on 07/27/2003 1:46:03 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: Coleus
Democrats use Religious litmus to obstruct judges
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/898349/posts
19 posted on 07/27/2003 1:46:36 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: Coleus
Well, maybe I didn't read the whole thing . But, JFK was a Catholic. Why isn't that brought up? We had a Catholic president and the country didn't go to h*ll. Why don't we use JFK and his policies against his brother? Sex and Washington in the sixties were different than they are now. In the sixties, it was discrete. Ask not what your country can do for you doesn't sound like what can you give me.
20 posted on 07/27/2003 10:24:57 PM PDT by katz
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