Trying to be Liberal

USA News and Views ^ | 08/02/03 | Paul Walfield

[westgirl123]

No doubt most people who are of a particular political ideology didn’t consciously decide which side of the aisle they would sit on. It is a safe bet that other than the most unscrupulous among us, where we stand politically is not simply a whim, but rather a culmination of inheritance, experiences, education and willingness to reason objectively about a subject.

However, in any attempt to describe opposing viewpoints there is always the danger of slanting descriptions and understandings in a manner that is conducive to ones own position. With that understanding, it is nevertheless apparent that Liberals, like everyone else, have a mental picture of the world that they want to live in, and all their political positions and platforms are geared to make that vision a reality.

[bluesagewoman]

Amen! I told my husband once that I just couldn't understand the logic of liberals, how they could take the same information I get and twist it to such unbelieveable conclusions. Someone posted a little cartoon here a while back that finally got it through my brain why liberals are the way they are. Because they are bananas! That finally explained it all.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Bump for a good read.

[DC native]

I take long walks and solve the world's problems in my mind as I walk. Lately I have been turning this issue over and over in my mind...what exactly IS wrong with liberals that they are so blind to reality? I think it is some type of mental illness. And this guy hits the nail on the head when he says they have lost their critical thinking skills.

[Teacher317]

An opinion piece by the local moron in today's paper. I should ping FReeper classicliberal.

Letter: No connection
B.J. PASCHAL - Muncie

Ever since 9-11 I've been reading a misunderstanding of growing proportions by conservative national columnists in The Star Press - the ludicrous notion that members of the ultraconservative, slogan-chanting, my-country-right-or-wrong crowd are the direct heirs to the principles espoused by the founders of the U.S.A.

Nonsense! If the conservatives of that day, the loyalist Tories of the 13 colonies, had won out, we'd all be singing God Save the Queen and having afternoon tea. The people who rebelled against the Brits were not members of the conservative status quo; They were liberals promoting a radical, new doctrine about individual liberty and dignity of all human beings.

They would have been hanged by the conservative Tories had they lost.

[ExSoldier]

"what exactly IS wrong with liberals that they are so blind to reality?"

I work with a bunch of teachers who are REALLY left wing...and I mean extreme in the worst way. I see what vile slop they have been pouring into young minds for so many years and I do my best to combat their agenda. See my "about" page for more. First of all, they know what they are doing! Don't kid yourself, liberal school teachers are fighting to overcome what is taught in the homes...or in Church. They are succeeding, in large part. Liberalism is evil.

[MosesKnows]

just couldn't understand the logic of liberals

My theory is that a liberal is a person who lacks the gene required to allow reality to be processed.

I admit that my theory regarding liberals is not at the present time widely accepted. However, it is rapidly gaining acceptance among people whose attempts to explain the liberal's logic fails. This theory does not extent to those whose hidden agendas are achieved from the constant shearing of the liberal sheep who cannot process reality.

The roots of my theory come from observing this single assertion that exist in nearly all liberal thinking. It manifest itself it this liberal conclusion; because the people CANNOT be trusted, government must write laws, and the people will abide by these laws because the people CAN be trusted.

If you doubt the theory, I offer a selection of liberal logic for your review.

If a liberal can process reality then why does a liberal feel that other citizens are not paying “their fair share” of taxes when taxpayers with 17% of the income pays 30% of the taxes?

If a liberal can process reality then why does a liberal believe that throwing yet more money at education will improve its quality but adding educational choice will not?

If a liberal can process reality then why does a liberal agree with the government when it subsidizes, taxes, regulates, and then sues a product manufacturer?

If a liberal can process reality then why does a liberal believe President Bush is not the lawful president because the election was determined by the Supreme Court but Roe v Wade is lawful because it was determined by the Supreme Court?

If a liberal can process reality then why does a liberal support using welfare money to sue gun manufacturers instead of using the money to prosecute the offenders?

The theory can easily be tested at home by attempting to add to the list of liberal logics that exist for all to examine.

[armymarinemom]

I think most liberals are self centered cowards. They seem to have a lot of the same traits as a person with an anti-social personality disorder. It never occurs to them that the world doesn't revolve around them.
A lot of these professors ran to universities to avoid the draft and just stayed. If they left academia to work with the real world their illusions would be challenged.

[DC native]

I am in the process of changing careers and am taking classes to become certified to teach English as a second language. I have a political agenda and I consider myself to be a soldier in the war to take back our country from the Left. My agenda is to push for English immersion and to present the conservative point of view to immigrant students. This is in direct opposition to the leftists who run the graduate school of education which I attend. They are pushing bilingual, multicultural education and the leftist agenda, and they are pushing it HARD. The other students in my classes are The Stepford Students, spewing RightThink and bashing the English-only movement. But I am keeping my eyes on the prize, which, as I see it, is the demise of the death grip that the Left has on our country. I would be interested in talking to other conservative teachers; if you know of any groups or websites, please let me know.

[armymarinemom]

Bless you!!!! I remember how hard it was trying to stay focused listening to all of the left rhetoric. God help any student who dares to voice a conservative opinion. They are rewarded for their original thoughts with tougher grading standards than the sheep sitting next to them.

[DC native]

Yes, it is very disheartening and I have to be careful with my words because I will need the leftists as a reference for my first teaching job. After that, it's going to be sayonara, suckers, and I will become their ideological enemy. By the way, I am a Navy Mom...my son is going to join the crew of the USS Ronald Reagan in October. I am learning that when one family member joins the service, the entire family joins!

[armymarinemom]

DC_native. You sure do!! Being a military parent is a lot different than having a son or daughter in a nine to five job.

[ExSoldier]

"I have a political agenda and I consider myself to be a soldier in the war to take back our country from the Left."

I'd be very careful about posting this in cyberspace. There are many lurkers here who track and record what we do or say...something like this could come back and bite you in the worst way later on. As far as sites for conservative teachers, I've not heard of any and if there are some, I'd have to see them from a neutral computer or even a computer at my school, before I bookmarked them at home for the same reasons.

Look, I'll go "full on" tinfoil hat here ~starts beanie prop spinning, lights start to flicker~ and just say that the globalists knew 40 years ago that education was the key to achieving the New World Order. They're prepared to wait as many decades as it takes, and they've already waited at least five.....so do you think this kind of ultra long range planning didn't take into effect all possible "counters" to their strategies?

I agree with English immersion. It is working in many districts, even with liberals running them. But my paranoia springs from experience. I have been actively "hunted" simply because I'm a conservative and they ain't scored a direct hit, yet! But I've come close enough to get caught by shrapnel and it doesn't feel too good. You've gotta protect yourself. Before I even make friends at a new school, I take the time to assess all of my peers and figure out who I can trust, first. I watch for the organization toadies (easy to spot) and the professional backbiters. Sometimes, it takes an entire school year before I commit to a friend. I play the game like that good old song by Mike and the Mechanics, called "Silent Running."

[driftless]

Although there are not that many real liberals where I live, I can deduce from their comments that most liberals are either ignorant, selfish, naive, or a combination of all three. I hesitate to add evil like many conservatives do because I know a number of these people, and they will do nice things and they do mean well. But they have a thin grasp on reality and how the world works.

My fiancee's daughter is a very nice person who just graduated from college and repeats all the trite liberal phrases we laugh at here on Free Republic. We'll see what young liberals things when they get older. If they're still ignorant when they're forty, it's time for DU.

[ExSoldier]

Of course this is true for any profession or any large corporation or any large bureaucracy...

[watchin]

If a liberal can process reality then why does a liberal believe President Bush is not the lawful president because the election was determined by the Supreme Court but Roe v Wade is lawful because it was determined by the Supreme Court?

A real gem that should be shouted from the rooftops.

[watchin]

Oh to see such a thing come to pass. The prayers of Freepers everywhere are with you all.

[Tamzee]

It always appeared to me that liberalism is similar to a religious cult... the same utter denial of inconsistencies in the foundational values, lack of all rational analysis of the tenets, ferocious protection and defense of the ideals, and an "end justify the means" attitude toward dealing with and destroying any other viewpoint or "false" ideology as they see it.

This was an excellent article, thanks!

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

- the ludicrous notion that members of the ultraconservative, slogan-chanting, my-country-right-or-wrong crowd are the direct heirs to the principles espoused by the founders of the U.S.A.

Nonsense! If the conservatives of that day, the loyalist Tories of the 13 colonies, had won out, we'd all be singing God Save the Queen and having afternoon tea. The people who rebelled against the Brits were not members of the conservative status quo; They were liberals promoting a radical, new doctrine about individual liberty and dignity of all human beings.

They would have been hanged by the conservative Tories had they lost.

In any given country, conservatism conserves the theme of that country. In other countries--in revolutionary Virgina--conservatism conserved different values than those conserved by modern American conservatism.

The Theme Is Freedom.

Religion, Politics, and the American Tradition

by M. Stanton Evans

[Dr Warmoose]

It always appeared to me that liberalism is similar to a religious cult...

You were so right on track with this thought until...

the same utter denial of inconsistencies in the foundational values, lack of all rational analysis of the tenets, ferocious protection and defense of the ideals, and an "end justify the means" attitude toward dealing with and destroying any other viewpoint or "false" ideology as they see it.

Because that can be said for any ideology.

Since I believe that the Bible is true, I adopt an objective world-view that is consistent with what the Scriptures teach about history, about mankind, and about where things are going. Pagans, have their own world-view that is justified by whatever subjective irrational thoughts ramble through their skulls.

If you were to look a liberal ideology, it pretends to be classical Christianity, or at least there are numerous parallels.

• Christians have God.  Government has The State.
• In Christianity, there are the Regenerated and the Reprobate. (believers vs non-believers).  The Reprobate are considered to be evil and lacking wisdom, untrustworthy, dangerous, needing to repent and to be ruled by a rod of iron by the Creator God.  Replace Regenerated with "Government Employee" and Reprobate with "Private Citizen".  Now you understand the adversarial position of government and the people.  Why the government can have guns but the people can't.  Why the government can wander around in National Preserves but the citizen can't be trusted in there.  Why government can only be trusted to handle retirement, medicine and the education but the people can't be trusted to save their own money, find ways to get medical treatment nor adequately teach their children.
• In Christianity, there are tithes and offerings.  In government, there are taxes and fines.
• In Roman Catholicism, the Pope is the one people look to; In Christianity as a whole, Jesus Christ is the one to look towards.  In government the General Secretary, President, or Emperor is the one people are to look towards.
• Christians evangelize and proselytize the "lost".  Government operates numerous "evangelical" missions to convert people into worshiping government.
• Christians have priests and pastors to be entrusted with the flock.  Government has its "priests" and "pastors" who are trusted with managing "the flock".
• The Holy of Holies could only be entered by the high priests.  Government's Holy of Holies is the National Wildlife Refuge and Preserves and can only be entered in by the priests.
• Elders and Deacons minister to the flock.  Government has their social workers and regulators to rule the flock.
• Christians rely on the Paraclete for spiritual guidance.  Government has the meddlesome courts for guidance.
• God uses His divine ways to punishes evil doers.  Government uses a police force to punish "evil doers".
• Moses was told to divide up the nation into twelve tribes.  Government divides up the people in hundreds of artificial race and ethnicity groups.
• The Roman Catholics supported the fine arts and gave us beautiful music.  The government supports pornography and utter depravity through the NEA.
• God gave us the Ten Commandments and the Law.  Government gives us political correctness and myriads of laws.
• In regards to the Ten Commandments

  Thou shalt not commit adultery.	Easy no-fault divorce, sex-ed and condoms in schools, Hollywood, WIC and other enabling programs
  Thou shalt not murder.	Abortion.
  Thou shalt not bear false witness	Anything that comes out of Demoncat's mouth
  Thou shalt not steal.	Welfare and countless other wealth transfer schemes.  Also have police seizures, and the tax code.
  Thou shalt not covet	Coveting is the national pasttime.  Nearly every entitlement program, Class-Warfare.
  Honor father and mother	Sue mother and father.  It takes a village. Abandon mom & pop to government welfare.