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To: Alamo-Girl; unspun; Phaedrus; ALS; Doctor Stochastic; RightWhale; RadioAstronomer; js1138; ...
Your help with this is so appreciated!
2 posted on 08/02/2003 4:46:57 PM PDT by betty boop (We can have either human dignity or unfettered liberty, but not both. -- Dean Clancy)
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To: betty boop
Thought is one aspect of the mental phenomena. What else is there to confuse the issue? Memory, consciousness, reflection, self-awareness, forethought, opinion, intention, feelings, and a little, probably unimportant sub-phenomenon: thought eventually moves muscles and machines.
8 posted on 08/02/2003 5:05:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: betty boop
Wow! This sounds like a very interesting project! I'm still recovering from your last great idea, but will ponder this as well and perhaps have some comments later on today. Hugs!!!
34 posted on 08/03/2003 6:57:44 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; unspun; Phaedrus; ALS; Doctor Stochastic; RightWhale; RadioAstronomer; ...
You said: Am writing an article on the physical basis of consciousness ... and you said, This article from Prof. Raman is an extraordinarily elegant outline of where I think I want to go with this.

Your article is going to be about consciousness; Prof. Raman's article mainly addresses "thoughts," (whatever he means by thoughts). There is a great difference between, "thoughts," and consciousness. Our thinking is certainly conscious, but my kitty is conscious, but doesn't think. I assume you will be careful to make this distinction which Prof. Raman does not.

If you would be so kind, you might tell us what you mean by consciousness. I'm not asking you for an explanation of how it works, only what you mean by that term. Does the word "qualia" fit your notion of what the content of consciousness is?

Hank

88 posted on 08/03/2003 9:46:06 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
bb, I'm back from being almost always away from computers... for days. It was great. For some more to round out this subject matter, you may enjoy searching on:

"Rupert Sheldrake" AND resonance

There is some interesting stuff out there that gets much closer to science than the spiraling recursions that theoretics often tends to become. Also, keep cornelis' judgment in mind -- keep philosphical discipline engaged. ;-)
110 posted on 08/04/2003 9:54:55 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love." | No I don't look anything like her but I do like to hear "Unspun w/ AnnaZ")
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