Posted on 08/02/2003 10:29:19 PM PDT by LibWhacker
HOHENWUTZEN, Germany (Reuters) - Nearly 60 years after the end of World War Two, loud bangs and smoke fill the air as grenades and shells explode by the Polish border -- but this time Germany has informed its neighbour of its plans.
"We've told the Polish authorities, so they won't be worried we're planning to invade again," joked bomb disposal expert Ralf Kirschnick as he inspected shards of metal after a controlled explosion on the German bank of the River Oder.
Since the end of hostilities Germany has made steady inroads into the unexploded bombs and grenades buried beneath its soil, but the disposal task could continue for centuries.
"I'd estimate there's still another 200 to 250 years of work to do," Kirschnick said.
Kirschnick is one of about 50 disposal experts working their way through sites in Brandenburg.
The eastern state, which surrounds Berlin, was one of the most heavily bombed parts of Europe in the war. The U.S. and British air forces dropped about 1.5 million tonnes on Nazi Germany. Around 440,000 bombs fell in the Berlin area, of which an estimated five percent, or 22,000, failed to explode.
Indeed, a map on the wall of disposal group chief Horst Reinhardt showing suspect areas serves as an historical record of conflict.
Swathes of pink show where Soviet forces fought German divisions in their push towards the German capital. Smaller patches mark the cities bombarded by the Americans and British.
"Our state has the heaviest density of munitions. This was after all where the war ended," said Reinhardt.
COSTLY CLEAN-UP
The legacy is a headache for the cash-strapped state which has proposed that the federal government foot the entire clean-up bill.
At present, it covers only clearing German arms at an annual cost of 45 million euros. Brandenburg says with the inclusion of Allied bombs, the bill would double.
The state still has 400,000 hectares (one million acres) of land deemed suspect. Last year, its experts cleared 670 hectares, unearthing 655 tonnes of munitions.
Aerial photographs taken by the Americans and British have helped since they were made available to the formerly communist eastern states in the 1990s.
A large crater in the photos of pockmarked ground indicates a bomb went off, while a small hole suggests an unexploded bomb may still be lying beneath the surface.
Soviet munitions, of which there are few records, are harder to find and their sometimes makeshift construction means they can be more dangerous.
RISKY BUSINESS
It's a risky business.
In Brandenburg, a disposal expert was killed in 1994, while in the town of Oranienburg, a man and a girl were injured in the same year when an undisturbed bomb suddenly blew up.
A bomb exploded at Siegen airport in western Germany in 2000 just minutes after a passenger plane had landed on the same spot and a few hours before Dutch Queen Beatrix was due to visit.
In Salzburg in July, a World War Two bomb killed two disposal experts who were trying to unearth it by the Austrian city's central train station.
Kirschnick, who has served 10 years as a bomb disposal expert, including a stint in Bosnia, says the old munitions are becoming more dangerous by the year as they gradually corrode.
Looking out across the Oder river into Poland, he also comments that eastern Europe has an unenviable clean-up task. When the water is low, he says, some munitions can be seen sticking in the banks.
"There's been little interest in the east, although clearly it's been an issue of money," he said.
Kirschnick says his job requires constant vigilance.
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Yah, yer a laugh-riot, Fritz.
Hundreds of thousands of dead Polish people are yukking it up as we speak.
Of course not! If I had been a follower of Charles Manson, wouldn't you say it'd be a bit tacky for me to joke about Sharon Tate?
Correct. The perpetrator of a crime should not joke about the crime. You never mention a rope if you've been the leader of a lynching.
Where may I send the invoice for your very first lesson in Human Etiquette?
WWII was a fair war, at least for the military. (The bombings of civilians, mass-slaughtering of innocent people and expelling of people is not the military part of the war.)
Yet, those decisions were made by your top military leader of the time. Furthermore, those decisions were manifested using military personnel.
No, the bombing of civilians, mass-slaughtering of innocent people, and the expelling of people were all 100% military actions. Unfortunately, you may not compartmentalize like that in order to appease your collective conscious.
They may not.
Personally, I will make jokes about these wars, and these jokes are no offenses for the deads and victims.
That is because you are a tactless boor.
Obviously, the mass-slaughtering, bombings and expellings were military actions, but not in the military part of the war.
Denial is not a river in Egypt. They were, by every measure, military actions. The plans were conceived in the military and executed by military personnel for military gain.
My Grand-Pas had nothing to do with these actions. They even didn´t know it. The one fought in Russia as a tank engineer and the other was sailor.
Then they were blameless. They still might want to refrain from Holocaust jokes, though.
I have every right to make the same jokes like anyone else. And I have noone to apologize for my words.
Yes, I do not deny that you have every right to be an offensive clod with utterly no tact whatever.
There is no collective guilt.
Untrue. In America, we bear a certain collective guilt as to the way we dispossessed the Indians from their land and infected their populace with European diseases on purpose. There aren't a lot of 'smallpox in blankets' jokes over here.
Btw, WW1 was NOT the fault of the Germans alone. It was the fault of whole Europe. All Europeans wanted that war in 1914, and they celebrated the beginning in London, Berlin, Paris and Moscow.
Strange.
But we are talking about WWII, and Germany can certainly shoulder much of the blame for that one.
Besides, German comedy - any German comedy, should be supported with the full extent of our abilities.
Jerry Lewis must not cross the Rhine!
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